NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

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Svnla

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There should be quite a few haunted apartment units available for cheap in Wuhan

If the economy in mainland china is crumble from this virus, the whole real estate in mainland china will crash. All of that investment money into real estate, especially the 2nd and 3rd homes as "investments" will be gone. Scary thought.
 

BudAshes

Lifer
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Latest news -

Over 96,000 infections worldwide (over 80 countries) with over 3,300 deaths.

US stocks dropped nearly 1,000 points. S&P 500 downed 3.4% and Nasdaq downed 3.1%. Treasury bond 10-year yield dropped to 0.91%, the lowest ever.

Southwest Airlines could cut flights due to lower demand.

Almost 300 million students across the world are out of school because of this virus.

The good news is 30 years mortgage is about 3.29%, lowest ever.

I wonder how long that will stick. I'm about to buy another house at the beginning of next year in a pretty over-inflated area for housing prices. It would be nice if prices dropped and interest rates went down a bit.
 

eRacer

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Hmmm...wonder if Boston is becoming a hotspot on the US east coast, similar to the Seattle area on the west coast.

Indiana Man Who Traveled To Boston Tests Positive For Coronavirus

There Are Now 8 Cases Of Coronavirus In Massachusetts (bad headline as it is 8 KNOWN cases, presumably many more still unknown)

Beyond the eight cases in Massachusetts, several people who traveled through Boston now have tested positive for the coronavirus, including a man in Tennessee, a man in Indiana and two people abroad.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Hmmm...wonder if Boston is becoming a hotspot on the US east coast, similar to the Seattle area on the west coast.

Indiana Man Who Traveled To Boston Tests Positive For Coronavirus

There Are Now 8 Cases Of Coronavirus In Massachusetts (bad headline as it is 8 KNOWN cases, presumably many more still unknown)
Everywhere is becoming a hotspot right now. We're up to doubled cumulative cases from like, yesterday.

20-something cases in NYC (gonna asplode soon), armful in MA, new cases in PA today. About half the states have at least one case now.
 

purbeast0

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My county in MD has 3 confirmed cases. A couple in their 70's and a woman in her mid 50's I believe. They were all traveling abroad prior. It would be nice to know where they are in the county though so people could figure out if they could potentially have encountered these people.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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Just came back from Costco in north Atlanta. They now have plenty of bottled water, toilet paper, wipes, etc. In fact, I've never seen so many pallets of bottled water there ever. But they do have sign posted that members can only buy 2 cases at a time and 3 for water. The warehouse was crowded again today. Not as crowded as last Thursday but still way above normal traffic for regular Friday.

I bought another roll of toilet paper just in case. Skipped the water since I have plenty. Bought some flank steak, turkey breast, and spare ribs to smoke and grill.
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zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Actually, any beer in clear or green glass often has a skunked flavor due to UV light. It's no wonder they have to lime it up to make it more palatable. Marketing and the lime accessory is what sells Corona (in bars, by pools, and in restaurants). Sales are somewhat seasonal as it is....

I really like most Mexican lagers, particularly the dark ones because they were directly influenced by Germans. I'm big on Vienna lagers.

not exactly true!

the green class is necessary because what skunks beer--usually hops-derived loopulones (forget what they are called), which are formed during the brewing process, break down at different rates based on hop variety and each one's specific sensitivity to certain light waves.

green is chosen for...I think lagers and pilsners? that typically contain the hop varieties that are more sensitive to the light that is filtered out by the green glass. clear is for beers that are generally more robust; but I also suspect it is fine for high-volume, high-consumption beer (never sitting on the shelf very long).
 

zinfamous

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Everywhere is becoming a hotspot right now. We're up to doubled cumulative cases from like, yesterday.

20-something cases in NYC (gonna asplode soon), armful in MA, new cases in PA today. About half the states have at least one case now.

honestly, these are all just confirmed cases, because testing is made available. It's amazing how there is this direct correlation to when each state actually begins testing, that cases are suddenly "found" in those states.

due to the nature of this virus, I think it's pretty much exploded everywhere, we are just lagging in our ability to document.

Not to worry, though. Orange Julius already told us that it's locked down and over with, right? It must be true.
 

zinfamous

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My county in MD has 3 confirmed cases. A couple in their 70's and a woman in her mid 50's I believe. They were all traveling abroad prior. It would be nice to know where they are in the county though so people could figure out if they could potentially have encountered these people.

yeah, I was thinking this too. I assume that they are going with prudence and directly informing the individuals known to be in contact with them, first, so that they can more directly track where it would be. Probably better not to just blast all over the news specific locations.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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honestly, these are all just confirmed cases, because testing is made available. It's amazing how there is this direct correlation to when each state actually begins testing, that cases are suddenly "found" in those states.

due to the nature of this virus, I think it's pretty much exploded everywhere, we are just lagging in our ability to document.

Not to worry, though. Orange Julius already told us that it's locked down and over with, right? It must be true.
Yep, exactly true. Hence why I stocked up a week ago instead of now. Didn't take much foresight to see this coming.
 

Roger Wilco

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Cases in the US are likely well into the thousands, with tens of thousands not that far around the corner. It's actually quite remarkable how badly this has been botched so far. We are giving a Iran a run for their money.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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honestly, these are all just confirmed cases, because testing is made available. It's amazing how there is this direct correlation to when each state actually begins testing, that cases are suddenly "found" in those states.

due to the nature of this virus, I think it's pretty much exploded everywhere, we are just lagging in our ability to document.

Not to worry, though. Orange Julius already told us that it's locked down and over with, right? It must be true.
Tests are lagging indicator. That's what I said about South Korea days ago when the number of confirmed cases there exploded. I said that's because South Korea began to aggressively test for cases. I said at the time, South Korea will soon be on the decline in the number of cases and I still believe that. I think the worst is over for China and South Korea. I've seen pictures and heard of first hand accounts on how seriously everyone is taking the virus there. Streets and stores in China and South Korea are virtually empty now. Shop owners are not even bothering opening the store because no one will visit and shop.

It's here in the US. It's funny to see all the rich old people freak out. It's because they're at the highest risk. Rich people travel more.
 

eRacer

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Cases in the US are likely well into the thousands, with tens of thousands not that far around the corner. It's actually quite remarkable how badly this has been botched so far. We are giving a Iran a run for their money.
Yep. People were critical of Iran for not restricting travel and public gatherings during the start of the pandemic in their country. In the meantime millions across the US are getting ready to head south for spring break. What could possibly go wrong?
 
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pmv

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Or not.


So the passengers who were on a ship that had a guy with Coronavirus won't be allowed to enter the US? But plane passengers from regions where the virus appears to be rife, are allowed in without any problem? Not sure if that entirely makes sense.


From the Guardian's blog, in relation to how bad it's gotten in Italy - a 38 year-old marathon runner...put in intensive care by this bug.

I wax-and-wane in how alarmed I feel about the situation- depending on whether I've recently read something like this, or a report of someone 'dying with' the virus, at the age of 95.

"The heavily pregnant wife of “patient one”, the 38-year-old man who was Italy’s first confirmed locally transmitted case, was dismissed from hospital on Thursday; her husband, a marathon runner and amateur footballer, remains in intensive care."
 

Roger Wilco

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Tests are lagging indicator. That's what I said about South Korea days ago when the number of confirmed cases there exploded. I said that's because South Korea began to aggressively test for cases. I said at the time, South Korea will soon be on the decline in the number of cases and I still believe that. I think the worst is over for China and South Korea. I've seen pictures and heard of first hand accounts on how seriously everyone is taking the virus there. Streets and stores in China and South Korea are virtually empty now. Shop owners are not even bothering opening the store because no one will visit and shop.

It's here in the US. It's funny to see all the rich old people freak out. It's because they're at the highest risk. Rich people travel more.

I don't know. South Korea has reported 827 new cases within the last 24 hours.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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I don't know. South Korea has reported 827 new cases within the last 24 hours.
And almost all the cases are from the cult. The cult leader finally came out of hiding and members will now likely cooperate. If they can contain the cult, they can control the virus.
 

Roger Wilco

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And almost all the cases are from the cult. The cult leader finally came out of hiding and members will now likely cooperate. If they can contain the cult, they can control the virus.

This article says only 60% were related to the cult church thing. I haven't been following the South Korea thing closely, so I honestly don't know.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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This article says only 60% were related to the cult church thing. I haven't been following the South Korea thing closely, so I honestly don't know.
That cult infected other churches. So couple other big churches blew up there as well. Majority of the cases can be traced back to the cult.
 

Arkaign

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Fizz doesn't really do anything for me overall, in any beverage, it's non-factor. I like hops, but I also like a good stout or porter. Something flavorful, lagers are generally just kind of "there".

Couldn't agree more. The regular old American lager is so boring. I also hate extremely gassy beers like Bud Light. A good ale is dang nice especially with dinner. And there are some awesome ones like Old Rasputin that have crazy fun flavors and higher ABV. As I don't drink very much these days, just one of those things (sort of large bottle) sipped over dinner is enough to be satisfying.

I need to grab a couple of those for the lockdown, maybe it will make the waiting less boring haha.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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Kroger, the largest supermarket chain in the US, is requesting all online orders of paper related items, disinfect cleaning supplies, water bottles, flu/cold related items, etc. would have a limit of 5 items per order. I will check and see if the B+M stores would have similar policy.

WSJ has an article about how mainland china is a huge supply of components/raw material for US medicines. So if this virus lingers, the US and the rest of the world will be in a world of hurt on medicines/drugs.
 
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