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herm0016

herm0016

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Oh shit. Visitor to colorado has it. Hmm. I wonder if the ski resorts will be vacant... that could be fun
 
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Dari

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Arkaign said:
Yep :/

The only way to conceivably be 'done' with it would be to literally spray and infect the entire population deliberately (with both known common strains) take whatever hit you are going to take, and then hope there are no further strains that swing back around. In 4-6 weeks you'd have quite the death count, but you'd also have solid enough immunity in the population to return to relatively normal operations once you got through maybe the biggest mass body disposal in history. 40+ million dead in China @ 3.4%+ CFR?
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No one is forming any immunity from this virus. There have been many reports of people getting Covid-19 again and having to be re-quarantined.
 
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herm0016

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Dari said:
No one is forming any immunity from this virus. There have been many reports of people getting Covid-19 again and having to be re-quarantined.
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It's not that you get sick again, it's that you are contagious again.
 
Muse

Muse

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killster1 said:
so i guess this is a list of the cleaning products good enough to klil the virus. https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2020-03/documents/sars-cov-2-list_03-03-2020.pdf

not sure how long you must soak / contact the virus with the wipes still tho. my wipes say 1 min contact time and i didnt get to read that far on the bleach ones.

ok the bleach wipes i have say 3 mins for TB and parovirus and 1 min for virus.. ;O strange that washing your hands with soap for 20 seconds will be good enough but i guess its ok just use silverware for eating pizza or dont eat the crust (is what i do since i touch the crust: :p )
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We're Doomed, Now What?

We're living in such cheerful times.
 
Muse

Muse

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herm0016 said:
It's not that you get sick again, it's that you are contagious again.
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Just watched Outbreak (1995) tonight (first viewing). Two strains of a super deadly virus. Hollywood, but I did watch it to the end. Parallels here, but covid-19 isn't 100% fatal!
 
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Arkaign

Arkaign

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Once you have antibodies for a particular strain, you should be functionality immune, and the body's T cells will eliminate any further encounters with that strain.

However, there are two known major strains at present. Exposure and immunity generated against one does not appear to apply to the other, and vice versa. Further complicating things is that in some persons the length of time from exposure to positive testing is very long, as well as the length from exposure to symptoms. And further the length of time from symptoms to full COVID-19 illness, as some individuals seem to float between very low to low grade infection for weeks, sometimes seeming to improve, after which time they can either get dramatically worse literally within hours, or with more fortunate luck, rapidly lose all traces of symptoms. Then there are further delays in waiting for a truly clean series of negative tests.

The path from exposure to infection to symptoms to recovery to clean/negative viral presence is a varied one. I think some misinformation has been out there that defies epidemiological logic. Ipso facto, if you have been infected and recover (via antibodies) from a specific strain of a virus, then further reinfection from an identical strain should be impossible. Confusion may be coming from individuals getting second infections from alternative strains, as well as those who suffer extremely lengthy incubation and light symptom periods before seeming to get sick again. One exposure, but a great length of time which may appear to be two separate incidents because this viral behavior is so odd compared to common experience people have with Cold/Flu.

All of this is not taking into account FURTHER mutagenic variants of this basic bug. What made 1918 Flu so unbelievably deadly was a more virulent variant that rampaged through continents starting around August of 1918. The initial Jan-July period was just a worse than usual seasonal flu situation before mutating into a more apocalyptic villain.
 
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Dari

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A survey just came out that said that 38% of Americans, under no circumstance, would drink Corona beer. Their loss.
 
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CZroe

CZroe

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Dari said:
A survey just came out that said that 38% of Americans, under no circumstance, would drink Corona beer. Their loss.
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I wouldn't but that's because I don't drink. If they were just trying to make people look dumb they might not limit their results to beer-drinking Americans without a strong brand preference.
 
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s0me0nesmind1

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sdifox

sdifox

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Sep 30, 2005
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killster1 said:
so i guess this is a list of the cleaning products good enough to klil the virus. https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2020-03/documents/sars-cov-2-list_03-03-2020.pdf

not sure how long you must soak / contact the virus with the wipes still tho. my wipes say 1 min contact time and i didnt get to read that far on the bleach ones.

ok the bleach wipes i have say 3 mins for TB and parovirus and 1 min for virus.. ;O strange that washing your hands with soap for 20 seconds will be good enough but i guess its ok just use silverware for eating pizza or dont eat the crust (is what i do since i touch the crust: :p )
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Keyword is wash. Soap lifts the virus off your skin and water carries it away.
 
Scarpozzi

Scarpozzi

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nakedfrog said:
I wouldn't drink it before this happened either, nothing to do with the name.
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Actually, any beer in clear or green glass often has a skunked flavor due to UV light. It's no wonder they have to lime it up to make it more palatable. Marketing and the lime accessory is what sells Corona (in bars, by pools, and in restaurants). Sales are somewhat seasonal as it is....

I really like most Mexican lagers, particularly the dark ones because they were directly influenced by Germans. I'm big on Vienna lagers.
 
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purbeast0

purbeast0

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The way I see it is, if you have to put a lime in your beer to make it taste good, then it's probably not a good beer. I will kick back some corona's if they are around and there is nothing else, but I'm not a big fan.
 
ponyo

ponyo

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I'm bored so it's time for my weekly Costco trip. I'm curious to see the inventory levels for water and toilet paper.
 
nakedfrog

nakedfrog

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Scarpozzi said:
Actually, any beer in clear or green glass often has a skunked flavor due to UV light. It's no wonder they have to lime it up to make it more palatable. Marketing and the lime accessory is what sells Corona (in bars, by pools, and in restaurants). Sales are somewhat seasonal as it is....

I really like most Mexican lagers, particularly the dark ones because they were directly influenced by Germans. I'm big on Vienna lagers.
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I generally don't prefer lagers at all, give me ale or give me liquor!
 
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s0me0nesmind1

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Scarpozzi said:
Actually, any beer in clear or green glass often has a skunked flavor due to UV light. It's no wonder they have to lime it up to make it more palatable. Marketing and the lime accessory is what sells Corona (in bars, by pools, and in restaurants). Sales are somewhat seasonal as it is....

I really like most Mexican lagers, particularly the dark ones because they were directly influenced by Germans. I'm big on Vienna lagers.
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Correcto.

This is why distributing via can is much more prominent these days.
 
nakedfrog

nakedfrog

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Scarpozzi said:
Lager vs Ale....what do you like more about ales? Just more a fan of heavier hopped and less fizzy beers?
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Fizz doesn't really do anything for me overall, in any beverage, it's non-factor. I like hops, but I also like a good stout or porter. Something flavorful, lagers are generally just kind of "there".
 
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Svnla

Svnla

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Latest news -

Over 96,000 infections worldwide (over 80 countries) with over 3,300 deaths.

US stocks dropped nearly 1,000 points. S&P 500 downed 3.4% and Nasdaq downed 3.1%. Treasury bond 10-year yield dropped to 0.91%, the lowest ever.

Southwest Airlines could cut flights due to lower demand.

Almost 300 million students across the world are out of school because of this virus.

The good news is 30 years mortgage is about 3.29%, lowest ever.
 
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