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Captante

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Actually, that's pretty stupid. Everyone at once means there's no resources to treat practically everyone. Drawn out, more resources at any given time. And if we're both going to get it, me first works for me, not you. Best time to get it (if and only if that confers immunity) is early.


Pretty sure he was making a humorous reference to back in the day (pre-vaccine) when one kid would get Chickenpox for example, all the other parents would bring their kids over to get infected at the same time.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Just got done with my unit's first Coronavirus/quarantine planning meeting. Trying to figure out if campus has the capacity to actually host all ~10k staff and faculty on their VPN solution, plus whatever percentage of the 40k students would want in (hint: their two devices are licensed for ~5k).

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!
 

BudAshes

Lifer
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Just got done with my unit's first Coronavirus/quarantine planning meeting. Trying to figure out if campus has the capacity to actually host all ~10k staff and faculty on their VPN solution, plus whatever percentage of the 40k students would want in (hint: their two devices are licensed for ~5k).

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!

Hah, good luck with that. I doubt they are meant to be used with even close to that many concurrent users.
 

sdifox

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Just got done with my unit's first Coronavirus/quarantine planning meeting. Trying to figure out if campus has the capacity to actually host all ~10k staff and faculty on their VPN solution, plus whatever percentage of the 40k students would want in (hint: their two devices are licensed for ~5k).

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!

this is where your warehouse full of acoustic couplers come into play
 

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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Latest financial data from this mess.

Muni Bond yields are the lowest in 38 years.
Amazon third party sellers are running out of stock, probably by late March/early April at best if suppliers in mainland china are still down.
Dow is down 5 days in a row.
Hollywood studios are expected to lose billions of revenue from oversea markets.
Marriott is expect to lower earning this quarter.
 
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Latest financial data from this mess.

Muni Bond yields are the lowest in 38 years.
Amazon third party sellers are running out of stock, probably by late March/early April at best if suppliers in mainland china are still down.
Dow is down 5 days in a row.
Hollywood studios are expected to lose billions of revenue from oversea markets.

Yay for mass hysteria!
 
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ponyo

Lifer
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Latest financial data from this mess.

Muni Bond yields are the lowest in 38 years.
Amazon third party sellers are running out of stock, probably by late March/early April at best if suppliers in mainland china are still down.
Dow is down 5 days in a row.
Hollywood studios are expected to lose billions of revenue from oversea markets.
Marriott is expect to lower earning this quarter.
Yet gold and silver are down to flat the last couple of days. Yeah the market is free and not manipulated.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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we are hitting Costco this evening, you all want a report?
I just came back from Costco. The store was crazy packed for Thursday afternoon. It was like weekend traffic in there. They're wiping down the handle of the shopping carts as you enter the warehouse. Lot of seniors shopping in the store and I overheard couple people talking about the coronavirus so the topic is definitely on people's mind. I didn't see what people were buying but I did see someone wearing medical mask which was a first for me shopping at a store. I'm not wearing mask when I go out even though I have plenty at home.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Hah, good luck with that. I doubt they are meant to be used with even close to that many concurrent users.
Ironically the appliances can handle the concurrent user count. Bandwidth will be crap though (~4Gb for all connections) and even worse if it's decided they need to expand it.

Semi-thankfully it's not in my silo, so I just get to blame someone else. If the shit hits the fan real bad, I'll just spin up a new solution for my ~1k users and the rest of campus can flop around like a dying fish.
 

Denly

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Thanks. OK, guess I'll put a 12 pack on my shopping list "just-in-case!" I hate being sick. I can't assume I'm not coming down with this, I figure odds are at least 50-50 I will. Anything I can do to lessen the severity is something I should be prepared for.

Salud! Good health to all!

The the G powder instead, tons cheaper, more portable and more eniv friendly.
 
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ponyo

Lifer
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What percentage of the population are in church cults over there?
Don't know the percentage but it's pretty large for what was once a Buddhist country. That crazy cult has a branch in Wuhan as well and that's where some of the members went in December. Then they came back and infected members at their own church and went to other churches to deliberately infect other churches with coronavirus so they wouldn't get the blame and other churches would. Really some crazy shit. Then the cult members also traveled to Israel and infected others on the Korean Air flight including the flight attendant. So the flight attendant was unknowingly infected and she worked Korean Air flight from Seoul to LA couple of times. So I'm sure the passengers on that flight were infected and they're in LA and other US cities now. This coronavirus is all over the US. You won't hear about it but there's no way people in New York City, LA, San Fran, Chicago, etc are not infected. They're either hiding it or don't know they're infected right now.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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we are hitting Costco this evening, you all want a report?
Yup.

Edit: Um, what are the options for Gatorade. My local indie supermarket (just there) didn't carry it! I bought a quart of "thirstquencher" organic lemon. Didn't see added electrolytes, unless sea salt counts. The worker there said it was an electrolyte, so... Figure to check out Costco, although I don't want a case of 24, I figure. *shrugs*
 

Captante

Lifer
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Don't know the percentage but it's pretty large for what was once a Buddhist country. That crazy cult has a branch in Wuhan as well and that's where some of the members went in December. Then they came back and infected members at their own church and went to other churches to deliberately infect other churches with coronavirus so they wouldn't get the blame and other churches would. Really some crazy shit. Then the cult members also traveled to Israel and infected others on the Korean Air flight including the flight attendant. So the flight attendant was unknowingly infected and she worked Korean Air flight from Seoul to LA couple of times. So I'm sure the passengers on that flight were infected and they're in LA and other US cities now. This coronavirus is all over the US. You won't hear about it but there's no way people in New York City, LA, San Fran, Chicago, etc are not infected. They're either hiding it or don't know they're infected right now.


I suspect as I said earlier most are asymptomatic at this point and that there are quite a few.

If a month from now there's still only a hand-full of cases I'll be far less concerned but that's not what I expect.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Yup.

Edit: Um, what are the options for Gatorade. My local indie supermarket (just there) didn't carry it! I bought a quart of "thirstquencher" organic lemon. Didn't see added electrolytes, unless sea salt counts. The worker there said it was an electrolyte, so... Figure to check out Costco, although I don't want a case of 24, I figure. *shrugs*
Salt's one part, but any of the 'workout drinks' should qualify... note, this doesn't include energy drinks. Think gatorade, powerade, etc. They should have a nominal amount of calories in them, about 50.

You can also just get Pedialyte, it's close to the same thing, albeit more expensive.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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Pretty sure he was making a humorous reference to back in the day (pre-vaccine) when one kid would get Chickenpox for example, all the other parents would bring their kids over to get infected at the same time.
Sorry, my sense of humor about all this is pretty muted right now.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Latest financial data from this mess.

Muni Bond yields are the lowest in 38 years.
Amazon third party sellers are running out of stock, probably by late March/early April at best if suppliers in mainland china are still down.
Dow is down 5 days in a row.
Hollywood studios are expected to lose billions of revenue from oversea markets.
Marriott is expect to lower earning this quarter.
I don't see how we avoid a correction at the minimum, bear market would be no surprise to me. What the hell do I know? How can there not be a contraction in earnings in the next 6-12 months?

Edit: S&P500 a lot like yesterday, only worse... 13 minutes from market close. Highest volume since the sell off in Dec. 2018.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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I understand completely ... don't fly off the handle though I seriously doubt we're talking 12 Monkeys here.
I never heard of 12 Monkeys before, skimmed Wikipedia on it a few seconds, jumped over to my local library's website and put a hold on it... the movie. Evidently they did a TV series too.
 
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Captante

Lifer
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I never heard of 12 Monkeys before, skimmed Wikipedia on it a few seconds, jumped over to my local library's website and put a hold on it... the movie. Evidently they did a TV series to.


The movie is pretty good especially if you like Bruce Willis def worth a watch ... sorry I assumed everyone on AT would be familiar my bad.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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I don't see how we avoid a correction at the minimum, bear market would be no surprise to me. What the hell do I know? How can there not be a contraction in earnings in the next 6-12 months?

If factories in china would open soon, then the damages would not be so bad. But if those factories could not and the restriction of movement/travel to/from mainland china is still on for months on end, then the whole world (not just the US) will be in a huge pain financially. We are paying the price of too much dependent on mainland china.

Business associates in Vietnam told me about a story of a hotel in Hanoi would have to lay off everyone for 4 months and each month, each employee would get less than $70 USD to hold them over. Airlines over there are selling flight tickets for less than $10 USD/each because the lack of demand/cancellation for air travel, especially from mainland china and S. Korea (oversea market is down about 40%). The national carrier Vietnam Airlines is selling flight tickets to select oversea markets for 50% off.

Nestle is cancelling ALL oversea traveling for all employees. Stay tuned.

Edit: ALL indexes of US stock market are down for today 2/27/20.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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The movie is pretty good especially if you like Bruce Willis def worth a watch ... sorry I assumed everyone on AT would be familiar my bad.
Well, I dig Die Hard. Terry Gilliam being involved is a huge plus. I've been wondering if there were movies about a huge deadly pandemic... guess this is the answer. Maybe there are others. I checked out Andromeda Strain from the library, the book by Michael Crichton last week, was disappointed to see he used the dumb trick of having it involved with extra-terristrial whatever. No need for that, we're more than capable of producing humanity threats right here. I returned the book the moment I realized Crichton's conceit.

Boggles the mind that all it apparently can take is a single viral body mutating to produce a deadly pandemic! Is it really that simple?
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Yup.

Edit: Um, what are the options for Gatorade. My local indie supermarket (just there) didn't carry it! I bought a quart of "thirstquencher" organic lemon. Didn't see added electrolytes, unless sea salt counts. The worker there said it was an electrolyte, so... Figure to check out Costco, although I don't want a case of 24, I figure. *shrugs*
Yes. Salt is an electrolyte.