NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[ponyo]

Looks like zinc lozenges are becoming harder to find.

edit: if you want to use zinc lozenges, allegedly you need at least 13mg of Zinc per dose. Only a few brands have that. You might be able to take multiple doses of other lozenges to achieve the same effect. Cold-eeze is one brand that has 13mg or more per dose, and I think Nature's Way has a product that offers the same thing.

I checked like 5 stores this morning and all zinc lozenges were out of stock. I did manage to find one CVS with some so I bought CVS store brand. It doesn't list the Zinc dosage so I'm assuming it's less than 13mg. I started taking it today because I think my wife passed me her cold.

 

[Mai72]

Not only is this inexcusably political in a thread where it isn't allowed, but the reports of Donald Trump calling it a hoax were themselves a hoax. It's hoax-ception.

He said that their reporting about him was a hoax and then you get Michael Moore and others delusionally embarrassing themselves by claiming that Trump called the virus a hoax. You're better than that.

I voted against Trump too but this isn't a time to get political.



1) He says as much
2) I agree
3) I just bought four bottles of Kroger-brand hand sanitizer and I didn't even check that aisle (these were overstock in a different part of the store)

My fault about calling out our POTUS. I'll keep his name out for now on, and other politics.

 

[CZroe]

Bottled water and toilet paper hoarding is related to this virus, well to stupidity related to this virus.

This again.

There's nothing "stupid" about buying more of the things you want now so you aren't tempted to go out for more later when you should be isolating yourself. It has nothing to do with people stupidly thinking that the tap will be contaminated or there won't be TP to go around.

You might buy TP now so you don't want to needlessly expose yourself to get it later... or end up dealing without it in order to maintain your isolation. Wouldn't you rather just buy more now than use wash cloths? Well, they feel the same way. I felt I already had plenty of TP so I didn't buy any but if I felt I might run out in the next couple months I would have bought some more with ZERO shame.

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

You’ll be dead in 20 minutes.

And if you wait the virus will get you by April anyway. Go out now, on your own terms, in a giant pool of vomit.

 

[ponyo]

This again.

There's nothing "stupid" about buying more of the things you want now so you aren't tempted to go out for more later when you should be isolating yourself. It has nothing to do with people stupidly thinking that the tap will be contaminated or there won't be TP to go around.

You might buy TP now so you don't need to needlessly expose yourself to get it later... or end up dealing without it in order to maintain your isolation. I felt I already had plenty of TP so I didn't buy any but if I felt I might run out in the next couple months I would have bought some more with ZERO shame.

I use lot of toilet paper. I admit I make hand turban when I wipe my butt. My daughter does the same. My wife conserves and only uses few sheets at a time while I might use quarter of a roll. I have several cases of TP from Costco and have no shame having some at hand. I don't want to have to run around and hunt for TP to be in stock at some store when I'm running low. That would suck so bad if I had to camp out to buy TP like people did for Nintendo Wii and Playstation 2.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

This again.

There's nothing "stupid" about buying more of the things you want now so you aren't tempted to go out for more later when you should be isolating yourself. It has nothing to do with people stupidly thinking that the tap will be contaminated or there won't be TP to go around.

You might buy TP now so you don't want to needlessly expose yourself to get it later... or end up dealing without it in order to maintain your isolation. Wouldn't you rather just buy more now than use wash cloths? Well, they feel the same way. I felt I already had plenty of TP so I didn't buy any but if I felt I might run out in the next couple months I would have bought some more with ZERO shame.

Yes but there is a difference between buying a cart full of TP of practically a 2 year supply (see the video I posted above) - and just buying another normal 24pk that you would normally buy every couple months.

Hell, I always have lots of TP and Paper towels in my garage (at all times) because I buy based on when there are good deals - not if there is a virus going around.

 

[ponyo]

Yes but there is a difference between buying a cart full of TP of practically a 2 year supply (see the video I posted above) - and just buying another normal 24pk that you would normally buy every couple months.

Hell, I always have lots of TP and Paper towels in my garage (at all times) because I buy based on when there are good deals - not if there is a virus going around.

That's over in Australia. They're all former convicts and prisoners so they know the value of good toilet paper.

 

[randay]

Please refrain from name-calling and tell us how is discussion about the effect of this viral outbreak on supply chains not respecting the thread title?!

Yes, our dependency is based upon "decades of" and won't be changed by a single administration. That was entirely his point. We need to take steps over many administrations. It should be possible because this is not a left/right issue. How that gets you so worked up is beyond my comprehension.

why should I refrain from name calling when he literally quoted my post and his only reply was "dick".

And it is political because it can only be changed by political action and it can only be discussed by discussing political action. and yes how it is beyond all of your comprehensions is also beyond me.

edit: also it works me up because to me it is not anywhere near a viable solution to this outbreak, nor does it have anything to do with hoarding/prepping that the poster compared it to. The flu comparison also pissed me off a lot for the same type of reasons.

 

[Spacehead]

And it is political because it can only be changed by political action and it can only be discussed by discussing political action. and yes how it is beyond all of your comprehensions is also beyond me.

It is political, but that's what P&N is for.
Not aimed at you, i would remind everyone of the thread title.

 

[sdifox]

This again.

There's nothing "stupid" about buying more of the things you want now so you aren't tempted to go out for more later when you should be isolating yourself. It has nothing to do with people stupidly thinking that the tap will be contaminated or there won't be TP to go around.

You might buy TP now so you don't want to needlessly expose yourself to get it later... or end up dealing without it in order to maintain your isolation. Wouldn't you rather just buy more now than use wash cloths? Well, they feel the same way. I felt I already had plenty of TP so I didn't buy any but if I felt I might run out in the next couple months I would have bought some more with ZERO shame.

There was an armed robbery in HK. They took hundreds of rolls of toilet paper...

Coronavirus: Armed robbers steal hundreds of toilet rolls in Hong Kong

Toilet rolls have become hot property in the city due to a shortage from coronavirus panic-buying.

www.bbc.com

Edmonton, AB

Toilet paper flying off shelves as Edmontonians stock up against COVID-19

Toilet paper supplies at stores across Edmonton seem to be disappearing quickly, as people stock up on supplies and brace for the coronavirus.

edmonton.ctvnews.ca

Markham, ON

Coronavirus fears: Empty shelves as Canadians heed health minister’s advice to stock up

Photos showed long lines of shoppers and rows upon rows of empty shelves. And at Toronto Costco locations, employees were wiping carts with disinfectant as customers entered the store

nationalpost.com

 

[pmv]

Shows the limitations of artistic imagination.

They missed this aspect from all those post-apocalypse movies and TV shows. I do not remember the episode of The Walking Dead where they flashed back to the scenes of people panic-buying vast quantities of toilet paper.

How undignified if this turns out to be the end of civilisation, and future generations mainly remember it being marked by the Great TP panic.

 

[UncleWai]

These dumbasses making cornholio proud

 

[CZroe]

Talk about over reactions, did you fall on your butt when both your knees jerked?

Talk about a lack of self-awareness.

The knee-jerk over-reaction was all you due to your misunderstanding. Clearly, I didn't misunderstand you and my response was on-point. You need a better criticism to justify this response.

Sorry, bud, but don't dish it if you can't take it.

I don't get the bottled water. Is something going to happen to our water system?
And why toilet paper? I was in my local spermarket, and we have plenty of both. We are out of hand sanitizer though.

It's been explained. People are preparing to stay home and isolate themselves. Some people don't like/drink tap water. Their preference for bottled water has nothing to do with the virus. Some people also don't like running out of toilet paper and exposing themselves to potentially infected people to get more when they could have just bought more to begin with. If you'd rather wash fecal rags then why do you buy toilet paper normally?

You have your answer.

Those people welded into their apartments probably wish they could've had one more supply run first even though they are getting some supplies (food, medicine).

I use lot of toilet paper. I admit I make hand turban when I wipe my butt. My daughter does the same. My wife conserves and only uses few sheets at a time while I might use quarter of a roll. I have several cases of TP from Costco and have no shame having some at hand. I don't want to have to run around and hunt for TP to be in stock at some store when I'm running low. That would suck so bad if I had to camp out to buy TP like people did for Nintendo Wii and Playstation 2.

We'll just revert to using our left hand. We're still civilized. Honest!

Yes but there is a difference between buying a cart full of TP of practically a 2 year supply (see the video I posted above) - and just buying another normal 24pk that you would normally buy every couple months.

Hell, I always have lots of TP and Paper towels in my garage (at all times) because I buy based on when there are good deals - not if there is a virus going around.

While the carts and pallets we see people buying are excessive,l and some probably are simple stupidity, there are many other possible explanations. Maybe the person runs an orphanage or a boarding school! They could be buying for other households... friends and family. Heck, they could be buying to scalp.

why should I refrain from name calling when he literally quoted my post and his only reply was "dick".

And it is political because it can only be changed by political action and it can only be discussed by discussing political action. and yes how it is beyond all of your comprehensions is also beyond me.

edit: also it works me up because to me it is not anywhere near a viable solution to this outbreak, nor does it have anything to do with hoarding/prepping that the poster compared it to. The flu comparison also pissed me off a lot for the same type of reasons.

He called you that because your entire post was a straw man ridicule of another forum member which is decidedly against the rules now. Both of you were out of line but his intent seemed more to tell you that so that you would self-reflect. If so... *WOOSH* Regardless, calling someone a "moran" because they called you a dick just seems petty and doesn't really save any face.

...and now you are attacking my comprehension about how preparing for the next situation is or isn't political. It's not "political" as we define it just because it requires political action. If all sides agree it needs to be done then it isn't a political issue and, thus, we describe it as "not political." Pretty simple.

No one said that increased self-sufficiency and domestic manufacturing capacity in the future can help with this novel outbreak. That part of the discussion is about how supply issues with this outbreak can help us improve for future novel outbreaks. Discussing this is extremely relevant and shouldn't upset anyone.

 

[ponyo]

Look at this massive line to buy some face mask at Daegu, South Korea. Remember in the beginning of this thread where people said buying N95 face mask here in the US was dumb? I said it was cheap insurance just in case the shit hit the fan here.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-a...ptures-massive-queue-for-masks-in-south-korea

BTW, the number of reported cases is going down in South Korea. They reported 272 new cases which is the lowest reported in 10 days. I expect cases in South Korea to keep decreasing. I think they passed the peak and the entire country and the residents are being very aggressive battling the virus. But they have experience battling major virus outbreaks.

 

[IronWing]

Stand in line with hundreds of other people to buy facemasks to prevent contact with other people!

 

[quikah]

My wife (an RN) had to care for a suspected case yesterday (turned out negative), they don't have any real PPE, just N95 mask and face shield. This is a major hospital. She was talking about calling in sick today, but went in anyway.

 

[MtnMan]

Talk about a lack of self-awareness.

The knee-jerk over-reaction was all you due to your misunderstanding. Clearly, I didn't misunderstand you and my response was on-point. You need a better criticism to justify this response.

Sorry, bud, but don't dish it if you can't take it.



It's been explained. People are preparing to stay home and isolate themselves. Some people don't like/drink tap water. Their preference for bottled water has nothing to do with the virus. Some people also don't like running out of toilet paper and exposing themselves to potentially infected people to get more when they could have just bought more to begin with. If you'd rather wash fecal rags then why do you buy toilet paper normally?

You have your answer.

Those people welded into their apartments probably wish they could've had one more supply run first even though they are getting some supplies (food, medicine).



We'll just revert to using our left hand. We're still civilized. Honest!



While the carts and pallets we see people buying are excessive,l and some probably are simple stupidity, there are many other possible explanations. Maybe the person runs an orphanage or a boarding school! They could be buying for other households... friends and family. Heck, they could be buying to scalp.

He called you that because your entire post was a straw man ridicule of another forum member which is decidedly against the rules now. Both of you were out of line but his intent seemed more to tell you that so that you would self-reflect. If so... *WOOSH* Regardless, calling someone a "moran" because they called you a dick just seems petty and doesn't really save any face.

...and now you are attacking my comprehension about how preparing for the next situation is or isn't political. It's not "political" as we define it just because it requires political action. If all sides agree it needs to be done then it isn't a political issue and, thus, we describe it as "not political." Pretty simple.

No one said that increased self-sufficiency and domestic manufacturing capacity in the future can help with this novel outbreak. That part of the discussion is about how supply issues with this outbreak can help us improve for future novel outbreaks. Discussing this is extremely relevant and shouldn't upset anyone.

This is rich, piss you off much?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Does it? Is the minuscule amount of "dissolved" plastic shown to be harmful? Is it shown to be related to BPH?

I suppose it dissolves a tiny bit of glass or ceramic from your bottles and cups? Or maybe whatever your pipes are made from?

If all you drink is bottled water maybe it will be harmful over time since you'll just keep accumulating it in your body. The body can't really break down plastic either so it just starts to get lodged in your fat cells, liver and maybe even brain. Your body just does not know how to deal with it. I imagine over long term it can't be good for you. Most sea wild life is dying from micro plastics, or in the case of larger creatures like whales, just plastic in general. So there's no reason why it can't do the same to us if we drink water that has small bits of plastic in it.

How you store bottled water probably matters too, if it's in the sun it probably dissolves faster from the UV. Ex: at the beach.

 

[brianmanahan]

i wonder how many of us on ATOT are going to die?

it's finally getting nice, 60F and sunny, but there's no way i'm going outside

i might see if i can stay inside until april with no human contact

 

[CZroe]

This is rich, piss you off much?

Not ashamed of my responses in the slightest. This gem, on the other hand...

Many people don't like drinking tap and don't want to get sick because they went out for a drink. Simple as that, really.

Please document when/where anyone has contracted COVID-19 through drinking water, of apologize for your ignorant hysteria then STFU.

You brought this on yourself. You misinterpreted me and just can't admit you were wrong so you start this petty back-and-forth crap.

Go on ignorantly telling people to STFU and you'll keep getting responses that embarrass you, like these.

 

[IronWing]

Hmm, have we reached to point where I can offer UV services?

 

[Red Squirrel]

This could be good for the tanning industry. "We replaced our bulbs with UV-C, come on in and get your dose of antivirus treatment to fight against coronavirus!"

 

[brianmanahan]

sounds like a few of you guys need to hug it out

but you better wear hazmat suits while doing it

 

[snoopy7548]

sounds like a few of you guys need to hug it out

but you better wear hazmat suits while doing it

Strangers fighting about people fighting about toilet paper. What have we come to?

 

[eRacer]

Lombardy region of Italy has already become the next Wuhan/Hubei province...103 dead in just a day.