NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[Svnla]

S. Korea shuts down Parliament because of the flare up. It could enforce even more strict measures if new cases keep popping up. Over 70% of new cases are untraceable.

Paris requires everyone in the city to have masks by this Friday because of over 6K new cases.

 

[K1052]

On the subject of masks I see almost no people without them here in Austin. Went to Lowes to get some stuff last weekend and every single person was in compliance, including kids. People for some reason said this could not be done and yet.

 

[manly]

It is at a bare minimum highly inappropriate. I'd rather hear from Fauci or Collins.

LOL well Dr. Fauci was having minor surgery when the CDC decided to water down Covid-19 testing standards. What a coincidence.

In alarming move, CDC says people exposed to COVID-19 do not need testing [Updated]

It also updated guidance on how service workers should deal with violent COVIDiots.

arstechnica.com

On the subject of masks I see almost no people without them here in Austin. Went to Lowes to get some stuff last weekend and every single person was in compliance, including kids. People for some reason said this could not be done and yet.

I was wrong! Having said that, Austin is the least Texan of all cities in Texas.

 

[K1052]

I was wrong! Having said that, Austin is the least Texan of all cities in Texas.

I think the concept of what "Texan" is will be undergoing continual adjustments in the coming years and decades with migratory inflows. Everybody who was going to move out of the big costal cities in the next five years anyway is doing it now. Houses are going so fast in this neighborhood that if you don't offer on the spot it's gone.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I think the concept of what "Texan" is will be undergoing continual adjustments in the coming years and decades with migratory inflows. Everybody who was going to move out of the big costal cities in the next five years anyway is doing it now. Houses are going so fast in this neighborhood that if you don't offer on the spot it's gone.

Most hobos, most taco trucks culturally appropriated from white people, etc...

Sometimes the hippies can be confused for hobos though

Still, you guys have Lake Travis area which is definitely one of the nicest looking areas.

 

[K1052]

Most hobos, most taco trucks culturally appropriated from white people, etc...

Sometimes the hippies can be confused for hobos though

Still, you guys have Lake Travis area which is definitely one of the nicest looking areas.

Lake Travis is great but seeing all the home building up in the hills is like

There is going to be a big drought eventually and then massive fires.

 

[Svnla]

Infection cases are going up in Europe and Asia. Where is muse? Better blame it on Trump quick.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Lake Travis is great but seeing all the home building up in the hills is like

There is going to be a big drought eventually and then massive fires.

We don't have jack shit in Houston as far as beautiful scenery, so me and wifey actually got married off of Lake Travis. Definitely beautiful, but I'm sure it will be made ugly with how much Austin is expanding.

Pretty soon it will turn into San Francisco hobo droppings and needles all over the streets.

 

[K1052]

Infection cases are going up in Europe and Asia. Where is muse? Better blame it on Trump quick.

I don't think there was a lot of debate that a second wave would come, especially once Europe started to reopen travel.

 

[K1052]

We don't have jack shit in Houston as far as beautiful scenery, so me and wifey actually got married off of Lake Travis. Definitely beautiful, but I'm sure it will be made ugly with how much Austin is expanding.

Pretty soon it will turn into San Francisco hobo droppings and needles all over the streets.

Yes there isn't a lot as far as vistas down there unless the flare stack of an oil refinery qualifies.

 

[pmv]

Infection cases are going up in Europe and Asia. Where is muse? Better blame it on Trump quick.

Judging from the 'daily new cases' figures on worldometer site, in most of Europe cases went up, peaked, came right down, then started going up again. The second peak being either comparable to the first (France, Spain) or substantially lower (UK, Italy). In the US they went up, stayed close to the peak level, and then rose higher from there to a second much higher peak, without ever having gone down Not really the same pattern. Seems as if the US openned things up again before getting the first wave under control.

 

[CZroe]

Just thought we'd revisit this lovely little nugget from earlier in this thread:

 

[Red Squirrel]

So happy to hear Trudeau's Chinese vaccine has been scrapped. Now let's work on a vaccine here instead of in China. There are several Canadian companies working on one, and failing that the states have a lot in progress too. I will trust anything but the CCP. I hate that we even poured money into that in first place.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/canada-china-covid-19-vaccine-trial-plug-pulled-1.5701101

 

[zinfamous]

We don't have jack shit in Houston as far as beautiful scenery, so me and wifey actually got married off of Lake Travis. Definitely beautiful, but I'm sure it will be made ugly with how much Austin is expanding.

Pretty soon it will turn into San Francisco hobo droppings and needles all over the streets.

aren't you a fucking peach.

 

[K1052]

So happy to hear Trudeau's Chinese vaccine has been scrapped. Now let's work on a vaccine here instead of in China. There are several Canadian companies working on one, and failing that the states have a lot in progress too. I will trust anything but the CCP. I hate that we even poured money into that in first place.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/canada-china-covid-19-vaccine-trial-plug-pulled-1.5701101

I presume Canada will buy the Oxford-AZ vaccine like Australia has. There isn't enough virus circulating in Canada for a efficacy trial to show results in a reasonable timeframe.

 

[K1052]

Seems as if the US openned things up again before getting the first wave under control.

We never shutdown like Europe did. "Shutdown" meant you couldn't dine inside at Red Lobster and people were losing their minds.

 

[K1052]

cold chain requirements for RNA vaccines coming into view now

https://endpts.com/will-supply-chai...ch-out-of-a-big-chunk-of-the-covid-19-market/

Pfizer: -70C storage and only 24 hours 2-8C.

Moderna: -20C long term storage. 7 days between 2-8C.

The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine will probably be limited to major healthcare facilities with ultra cold freezers and potentially some larger scale planned vaccination events where they know they'll use everything they unfreeze.

I think the adenovirus vector and subunit vaccines are fine at fridge temp for weeks or months.

 

[teejee]

cold chain requirements for RNA vaccines coming into view now

https://endpts.com/will-supply-chai...ch-out-of-a-big-chunk-of-the-covid-19-market/

Pfizer: -70C storage and only 24 hours 2-8C.

Moderna: -20C long term storage. 7 days between 2-8C.

The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine will probably be limited to major healthcare facilities with ultra cold freezers and potentially some larger scale planned vaccination events where they know they'll use everything they unfreeze.

I think the adenovirus vector and subunit vaccines are fine at fridge temp for weeks or months.

Such freezer cost less than 10000$

And probably pretty common already at medical facilities.
So not really an important factor when choosing vaccin.

 

[zinfamous]

Such freezer cost less than 10000$

And probably pretty common already at medical facilities.
So not really an important factor when choosing vaccin.

what he means is that it limits to medical facilities, and not general pharmacies like CVS/Walgreens. I assume they are unlikely to keep a -80 in those stores (though I don't really know--never worked in one). So, it does limit access to a degree, especially for people that have a habit of getting their vaccinations at such places.

Still, hospitals should be able to effectively set up outdoor, drive-up clinics and keep their working doses outside in 4c fridges for the duration of each day.

 

[K1052]

Such freezer cost less than 10000$

And probably pretty common already at medical facilities.
So not really an important factor when choosing vaccin.

Yeah but you’re probably not going to get dosed with the Pfizer one at your local CVS given the constraints is my point.

 

[K1052]

what he means is that it limits to medical facilities, and not general pharmacies like CVS/Walgreens. I assume they are unlikely to keep a -80 in those stores (though I don't really know--never worked in one). So, it does limit access to a degree, especially for people that have a habit of getting their vaccinations at such places.

Still, hospitals should be able to effectively set up outdoor, drive-up clinics and keep their working doses outside in 4c fridges for the duration of each day.

hah beat me to it

 

[Svnla]

It (the virus) is bbbbaaaaaccccckkkkkk -

Lab confirms 1st coronavirus reinfection in the US

 

[K1052]

It (the virus) is bbbbaaaaaccccckkkkkk -

Lab confirms 1st coronavirus reinfection in the US

1 confirmed reinfection in 6 million confirmed cases. It’s going to happen but likely rather rare.

 

[Svnla]

Thousands protested virus restrictions in Berlin, about 300 were arrested. Russia has over 17K deaths. Protests in UK too.

 

[Ichinisan]

1 confirmed reinfection in 6 million confirmed cases. It’s going to happen but likely rather rare.

I vaguely recall a previous story where there was a good medical reason why the person in question didn't have a lasting immune response (another procedure / therapy / condition or something). I can't imagine that would be the only case like that.

There's no reason to think immunity won't be similar to SARS-CoV or influenza. We never developed a vaccine for SARS. We already know that nearly everyone who recovered from SARS had some immunity to it for some useful amount of time. Otherwise the earlier SARS-CoV would have been worse than SARS-CoV-2 and it would not have burned out as quickly as it did.