NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[Red Squirrel]

Dumbass question, but did anyone actually wait for government permission before hugging their family and friends in Canada? That headline seems to have some serious delusions.

We were not allowed to before that. Technically even visiting family was not really allowed, as the 5 person gathering rule was for people from same household. I cheated a few times and went to visit family when it was nice out but we stayed outside and stayed far enough apart. I would park my truck a couple houses down so nobody snitches if they see lot of vehicles in one place.

Though even now the rules might be a bit confusing. The hugging is for the "bubble" that you create. Essentially a group of up to 10 people can agree to be part of a bubble where they are allowed close contact, but those people can't have close contact with anyone else. So for example, me, my sister's family and my parents could be part of a bubble but we would not be allowed to be part of other bubbles. Then there's the 10 people limit on gatherings, those can be any 10 people but they still need to socially distance.

 

[snoopy7548]

Here's Red Squirrel and his family:

 

[JEDI]

 

[Muse]

Here's Red Squirrel and his family

I hope you have your lawyers lined up... just kidding.

 

[ultimatebob]

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Maybe they'll make a dramatic reentrance during the finale. Perhaps a swarm of them will crash the 747 bringing the last remaining batch of Covid-19 vaccine to your hometown? That's a twist ending worthy of the Twilight Zone.

 

[Muse]

99% of "balsamic vinegar from Italy" that you can actually buy around here is just red wine vinegar that has been barely aged and filtered in oak barrels.

If you weren't paying something like $35+ per milliliter, then you weren't buying balsamic.

I bought a pretty good sized bottle of balsamic vinegar imported from Italy at Costco. You're telling me this is some bogus rot? Well, I suppose I don't know any better. It's sweet, tart, dark red. Tastes good, but I may just not know what I'm missing.

 

[dingster1]

Like this kind of death?

Pastor Who Defied Social Distancing Dies After Contracting Covid-19, Church Says (Published 2020)

The death of Gerald O. Glenn, the bishop of the New Deliverance Evangelistic Church in Chesterfield, Va., was announced during Easter services.

www.nytimes.com

Honestly some christians need to start having some common sense if this happens to their pastors. They are NOT untouchable, people mocked the Titanic the same and look what happened. It sunk. History repeats itself, people said it was the end during the black plague too. Then the y2k bug, then during 2012.

Co-morbidities contribute highly to black people’ Covid deaths

 

[Greenman]

Co-morbidities contribute highly to black people’ Covid deaths

I just heard a guy on the radio saying racism was the reason.

 

[shortylickens]

I just heard a guy on the radio saying racism was the reason.

in a roundabout way.
Black men and women in America get treated poorly by the health system. also their worse economic and social status means they get worse health care in general.

 

[SKORPI0]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=548153416066168

 

[Caveman]

Perhaps this has been discussed already. Some numbers to remember:

- 2018/19 flu season was worst in US history with 80k deaths that year
- 80k / 365 days = 219 deaths each day on average from the flu (0.1% of population affected)
- There have been multiple days in the US over the past few weeks near this number

Meanwhile news outlets keep reporting the alarming number of escalating cases! Of course the cases are escalating, more people are getting tested! More cases is encouraging news as it points to herd immunity and/or a virus mutating to a less lethal state to survive longer.

The most important statistic is how many are dying. Thoughts?

 

[Svnla]

Second wave in commie china?

Beijing Coronavirus Outbreak Tied to Market Sparks Fear of Resurgence

 

[H T C]

The most important statistic is how many are dying. Thoughts?

Wrong: the most important statistic is how many are being hospitalized VS existing capacity.

Why? Because if there isn't enough space for all hospitalized the daily death toll will REALLY start to climb, which is precisely what pretty much all countries / territories in the world are having lockdowns for, in the hopes it doesn't come to that: it's the wole point of "flattening the curve".

 

[Exterous]

Unfortunately calling it "some Americans" vastly understates the problem. Look at some of the videos of customers inside Las Vegas casinos; it looks like mask wearing is well under a quarter of people.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1271548582647209984

Even in relatively "moderate" Orange County, CA the local politicians turned against the country health director and she essentially resigned in protest after being harassed by vitriolic citizens. No wonder the U.S. is likely to average nearly 20k new confirmed cases daily for the foreseeable future.

Even in Wayne Co. MI with our crazy number of infections (we hit #3 in the country for a time with almost all of them in this county) a depressing number of people don't wear masks. It's too many varied groups to be political cults around here but I'm not sure why. Distrust in all government (including local) is high in Detroit due to the way residents have been screwed over by many so that may be a cause. I wouldn't think that's all of it but am not sure what made us so much worse than elsewhere

 

[Brainonska511]

Perhaps this has been discussed already. Some numbers to remember:

- 2018/19 flu season was worst in US history with 80k deaths that year
- 80k / 365 days = 219 deaths each day on average from the flu (0.1% of population affected)
- There have been multiple days in the US over the past few weeks near this number

Meanwhile news outlets keep reporting the alarming number of escalating cases! Of course the cases are escalating, more people are getting tested! More cases is encouraging news as it points to herd immunity and/or a virus mutating to a less lethal state to survive longer.

The most important statistic is how many are dying. Thoughts?

The comparison to the flu numbers is invalid. The 50-80k/year number comes from CDC modeling based off of a much lower number of confirmed flu deaths. We already have over 110k confirmed COVID deaths.

Additionally, deaths seem to pick up 10-14 days after new cases start to be identified, since they do not happen simultaneously.

More getting tested is not the inherent reason to see more cases. You would want to watch the positivity rate for tests (positives cases over total tests). Countries that got infections under control see single digits positivity rates. Places with rampaging infections see double digits positivity rates. We never really did get stuff under control, and now with the cavalier opening of places, we're seeing a spike in cases, and rising hospitalization. Hospitalizations need to stay below capacity or then we're really screwed.

 

[K1052]

Inactivated virus vaccine from Sinovac looking decent in a phase 2 trial.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1272272642372927489

 

[K1052]

Second wave in commie china?

Beijing Coronavirus Outbreak Tied to Market Sparks Fear of Resurgence

Unless you provably achieve eradication (like New Zealand) constant intense vigilance is going to be required until vaccines are in the population. SK has flares also and they've got an amazing response.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Perhaps this has been discussed already. Some numbers to remember:

- 2018/19 flu season was worst in US history with 80k deaths that year
- 80k / 365 days = 219 deaths each day on average from the flu (0.1% of population affected)
- There have been multiple days in the US over the past few weeks near this number

Meanwhile news outlets keep reporting the alarming number of escalating cases! Of course the cases are escalating, more people are getting tested! More cases is encouraging news as it points to herd immunity and/or a virus mutating to a less lethal state to survive longer.

The most important statistic is how many are dying. Thoughts?

- The 2019/2020 flu epidemic has killed 24,000 to 62,000 in the United States. That is 66 deaths/day to 170 deaths/day. Worth noting: "Influenza testing across the United States may be higher than normal at this time of year because of the COVID-19 pandemic. These estimates may partly reflect increases in testing in recent weeks and may be adjusted downward once the season is complete and final data for the 2019/20 season are available."

- Covid-19 has killed 118,000 in the United States. That is 320 deaths/day.

- Combined, they have killed 142,000 to 180,000. This equates to 389 deaths/day to 493 deaths/day.

Also, the United States isn't even close to achieving any sort of herd immunity.

 

[CZroe]

Got the test today. I don't think they went all the way to the back like they were supposed to but it definitely triggered my eyes to water.

Now we wait for results.

No symptoms. Just taking it because it's free and open to all even without symptoms in Georgia. They want to get testing up but it's hard to make people want to get tested even when it's free if they don't feel sick. My excuse? Well, I really need a hair cut and I figure getting tested first is the least I can do.

 

[K1052]

And the EUA for hydroxycholoroquine is finally withdrawn by the FDA. All the effort wasted on too many trials of this stuff has very likely set back research into other therapeutics that are more likely to be helpful.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1272549638164361217

 

[Ichinisan]

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Additionally, deaths seem to pick up 10-14 days after new cases start to be identified, since they do not happen simultaneously.
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I thought the "10-14 days" figure was how long it can typically take for symptoms to appear after exposure (if symptoms develop at all). Is it also coincidentally the typical amount of time deaths occur after symptoms appear? (if recovery doesn't happen first)

 

[Brainonska511]

I thought the "10-14 days" figure was how long it can typically take for symptoms to appear after exposure (if symptoms develop at all). Is it coincidentally also the typical amount of time deaths occur after symptoms appear? (if recovery doesn't happen first)

Median for onset of symptoms is about 7 days from exposure, with the max being about 14. I sort of pulled the number out of my butt in my sleep addled state for symptom onset to death, but the point stands: rise in onset of cases is going to precede rise in deaths

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1271796814946226178

that's third world healthcare for you

 

[BudAshes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1271796814946226178

that's third world healthcare for you

How do you get that out of all the things that were wrong with what happened here? In the 3rd world he'd be left to die in his own bed and no one would be charged anything.

 

[K1052]

I applied to participate in the phase 3 Moderna trial today. Wasn't aware there was a site here previously. I think I might be rejected for some medication I'm on but it's worth a try, assuming they aren't full up already with applicants. Worth a try

If I got in (and I got the actual shot not the placebo) and it turns me into the creature from the black lagoon then some of you will be right.