NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[Tweak155]

lol we had that one guy here doing that years ago

working 2 40-hour 100$k+ remote jobs at the same time without telling either company about the other

his username started with an s, what was it? i must find it

Steppinthrax? Something like that I think.

 

[brianmanahan]

Steppinthrax? Something like that I think.

lol yep that was it!

90k w2 v.s. 120k 1099

So I interviewed for a remote (work-from-home) position with a company. This would be a second job. When talking salary he indicated he can either do 90K W-2 or 120K 1099 (based on my salary req). I've never done 1099. I did some reading that I would have to set aside 40% for taxes!!!!!! I...

forums.anandtech.com

 

[K1052]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1265309999322062849

It seems inevitable that the feds are going to have to do a state/local rescue package even if some irresponsible people in congress keep saying they won't.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I wonder how many schools are going to open in the Fall...

FWIW, I work at a uni, and we're planning WFH for Fall semester at minimum, and probably an extended/permanent wide-scale WFH program from then-onwards (not related specifically to COVID-19)

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

FWIW, I work at a uni, and we're planning WFH for Fall semester at minimum, and probably an extended/permanent wide-scale WFH program from then-onwards (not related specifically to COVID-19)

WAit, they are actually planning to have courses online only for fall?

lol, who would even sign up for classes knowing that? I sure as fuck wouldn't.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

WAit, they are actually planning to have courses online only for fall?

lol, who would even sign up for classes knowing that? I sure as fuck wouldn't.

I mean, it's Ivy League so there's at least still some measure of prestige that comes with it, for whatever that's worth (apparently a shitload to rich people). We were online only for the remainder of the spring semester and we had some folks bitching and moaning but everyone did it.

There's worse things than getting what's probably a free pass through college classes, I can't imagine the faculty are being super-stringent right now on grading given the circumstances.

EDIT: In fact, here's a neat link to the current tentative 'plans' moving forward. I think a few options are bonkers (which apparently is in-line with many of the comments).

Calendar Options and Ideas for 2020-21 | Dean of Faculty

theuniversityfaculty.cornell.edu

 

[pmv]

It gets worse....now you have cannibal rats!

CDC warns of aggressive cannibal rats facing shortage of garbage to eat

Officials say rats have resorted to open warfare and eating their young as closures reduce edible waste

www.theguardian.com

Though 'cannibal' and 'rat' are two scary words, which, when put together, turn out to cancel-out more than they mulitply in effect. A cannibal rat is, on reflection, probably less frightening than a normal rat. Unless one also happens to be a rat of course.

Many possible political metaphors in there, mind.

Last month, according to the national health body, dumpster-diving rats were observed resorting to eating their young in the wake of urban shutdowns.

 

[DrunkenSano]

Oh I know fire/police would be last in line, but it just goes without being said that this isn't a game you can just keep playing.

Make CLEAR and CONCISE goals. Once goals are achieved, then phase back to normality should commence. The problem is government officials are fucking dumb with fear mongering and the concept of a plan is just foreign to them.

Our government already had great examples to go on, like South Korea and Taiwan. Test, test, test. If you want people to go back to work? That's fine, but test constantly and test accurately, once someone tests positive (even if they are asymptomatic, get them the hell away from people). Those who test positive for antibodies and the virus is all dead in them? They are safe to go to work.

However, our government doesn't want to test, because it would increase the numbers and make them look bad. The blind leading the blind at the moment.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I wonder how many schools are going to open in the Fall...

I'm starting to wonder too actually... My original feeling was that this would last a month, maybe a couple, but no way through the whole summer. Now I'm starting to think it could very well last through the summer and beyond.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Our government already had great examples to go on, like South Korea and Taiwan. Test, test, test. If you want people to go back to work? That's fine, but test constantly and test accurately, once someone tests positive (even if they are asymptomatic, get them the hell away from people). Those who test positive for antibodies and the virus is all dead in them? They are safe to go to work.

However, our government doesn't want to test, because it would increase the numbers and make them look bad. The blind leading the blind at the moment.

How exactly does testing solve the problem of asymptomatic carrying though?

Also comparing to other countries while seemingly logical - is honestly not a simple task to do. We are a consumer drive economy - which is entirely different from most others. Most people here also can't even afford a month of expenses let alone 4+

We are also now at the level of testing that those other countries were at.

 

[jmagg]

How exactly does testing solve the problem of asymptomatic carrying though?

Also comparing to other countries while seemingly logical - is honestly not a simple task to do. We are a consumer drive economy - which is entirely different from most others. Most people here also can't even afford a month of expenses let alone 4+

We are also now at the level of testing that those other countries were at.

Because asymptomatic carriers would quarantine for 14 days also.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

lol received my first ever piece of mail from the IRS Treasury. I was just like "Oh shit, did I forget to report some of my income?"

Nope, just the stupid Trump letter. I didn't know know they were actually sending those - I got my direct deposit like... 3 weeks ago or something.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

lol received my first ever piece of mail from the IRS Treasury. I was just like "Oh shit, did I forget to report some of my income?"

Nope, just the stupid Trump letter. I didn't know know they were actually sending those - I got my direct deposit like... 3 weeks ago or something.

My favorite part was where it was in spanish on the back, 'El Presidente' I think it said.

 

[manly]

How exactly does testing solve the problem of asymptomatic carrying though?

Also comparing to other countries while seemingly logical - is honestly not a simple task to do. We are a consumer drive economy - which is entirely different from most others. Most people here also can't even afford a month of expenses let alone 4+

We are also now at the level of testing that those other countries were at.

It's not the testing alone that's the (not so) secret sauce. It's having an army of contact tracers, and then isolating those who may have contracted the virus. Many have argued the latter is impossible/futile in 'Murica. That there are pretty high Constitutional challenges to forced quarantine (wholly different from shelter-in-place), and that many libertarians Americans would not comply even if legally ordered to do so. We may never know, because the federal government has basically thrown in the towel on having first-class testing and contact-tracing, shifting all responsibility to the states. In other words, there is no federal grand plan based on science; and let's not sit here and pretend like there is one.

In effect, the federal govt has adopted the "Sweden strategy," knowingly or otherwise. Meanwhile in Stockholm, they are apparently well under 20% of the population having antibodies, and nowhere near the vaunted herd immunity.

Almost all highly developed countries are service-driven. Although the American consumer does lead the developed world in living paycheck to paycheck, no advanced economy is immune to coronavirus mitigation policies. So no, the U.S. isn't entirely different from most other countries.

My favorite part was where it was in spanish on the back, 'El Presidente' I think it said.

As if we didn't already have enough evidence that the current administration acts like it rules a banana republic.

 

[Svnla]

In other news, several friends (work for the state and local governments) are telling they are about to be furlough because state and local government entities revenues are plummet. Tough time ahead for them.

More information about this. Most of these folks would lose from 10% to 15% of their salaries from the furlough. This is even worse than 9/11 or 2008 Recession per senior employees with 20 years of service or more.

 

[nutxo]

It gets worse....now you have cannibal rats!

CDC warns of aggressive cannibal rats facing shortage of garbage to eat

Officials say rats have resorted to open warfare and eating their young as closures reduce edible waste

www.theguardian.com

Though 'cannibal' and 'rat' are two scary words, which, when put together, turn out to cancel-out more than they mulitply in effect. A cannibal rat is, on reflection, probably less frightening than a normal rat. Unless one also happens to be a rat of course.

Many possible political metaphors in there, mind.

My work has pest control in twice a month to keep down the rodent population. We frequently see mice and evidence of rats. I actually mentioned a few days ago that I was curious to see what we are coming back to Monday. I know the 2 legged rats have destroyed our outdoor areas. I went and took a look after I got the call that I was starting back Monday. My storage areas are trashed. I found balls of wire that look like the tweaks have been pulling the wiring off the trailers.

 

[Muse]

lol received my first ever piece of mail from the IRS Treasury. I was just like "Oh shit, did I forget to report some of my income?"

Nope, just the stupid Trump letter. I didn't know know they were actually sending those - I got my direct deposit like... 3 weeks ago or something.

I did not read that letter, knew what it was, read a 1/2 dozen words, crumpled it up and tossed it into my paper recycling basket with a few curses on my lips. Yeah, this administration bugs me more than anything in this world.

Now, there are some places in the USA (heard on TV last night!) that you can get tested for free, and even if you are asymptomatic. If I could, I might. But chances of me testing positive right now are very slim. An antibody test would interest me more.

I keep hearing that testing^3 is crucial to beat this thing without tanking the economy. I don't know all the whys and wherefores but I have faith that they know what they're talking about with this stuff.

 

[brianmanahan]

More information about this. Most of these folks would lose from 10% to 15% of their salaries from the furlough. This is even worse than 9/11 or 2008 Recession per senior employees with 20 years of service or more.

one of my more enlightened facebook friends wants every government worker in the country to be fired

 

[Svnla]

one of my more enlightened facebook friends wants every government worker in the country to be fired

Ask him/her to dispose trash, work on water pipelines, repair roads/potholes, etc. all by him/herself. Don't forget about Police and Fire and Military/Defense.

 

[Sgt. York]

I did not read that letter, knew what it was, read a 1/2 dozen words, crumpled it up and tossed it into my paper recycling basket with a few curses on my lips.

Wow, you sure showed Trump.

 

[DrunkenSano]

How exactly does testing solve the problem of asymptomatic carrying though?

Also comparing to other countries while seemingly logical - is honestly not a simple task to do. We are a consumer drive economy - which is entirely different from most others. Most people here also can't even afford a month of expenses let alone 4+

We are also now at the level of testing that those other countries were at.

That's how you tell if someone is asymptomatic. You test EVERYONE in your office weekly, whether they are showing signs of COVID or not. Anyone who tests positive are sent home, no matter if they are showing symptoms or not. They are quarantined at home until they test twice that they are negative. Then they can come back to work.

 

[Spacehead]

Per ABC News, because of the virus and so many restaurants being shut down for a while, there are a lot more rats out in the open and they are hungry and aggressive.

I wonder if the Ninja Turtles' teacher would go out for some fresh air.

Hopefully no new members end up here anytime soon with the username "Willard Stiles"

Don't worry though! Just a few more months! But now we just don't have fire service. No biggie though.

If they keep going with this stuff were going to be so much in the hole that I guarantee plenty of localities are going to have to restructure shot like pension pays and such.

I have faith that our county commissioners with will come up with a plan to avoid this... another 14% tax hike

That's how you tell if someone is asymptomatic. You test EVERYONE in your office weekly, whether they are showing signs of COVID or not. Anyone who tests positive are sent home, no matter if they are showing symptoms or not. They are quarantined at home until they test twice that they are negative. Then they can come back to work.

And lets make sure they can get UC, or some sort of payment, in a timely manner while they're off work.

 

[duragezic]

Wow, you sure showed Trump.

I think most people would feel similar of other government letters. Whether it is Trump or someone else I don't think most people would take much from that.

 

[K1052]

That's how you tell if someone is asymptomatic. You test EVERYONE in your office weekly, whether they are showing signs of COVID or not. Anyone who tests positive are sent home, no matter if they are showing symptoms or not. They are quarantined at home until they test twice that they are negative. Then they can come back to work.

Some people say that you could never test this many people nationally but that's not true if you pool test.

That's how the Chinese are able to screen their population so quickly.

 

[ultimatebob]

Some people say that you could never test this many people nationally but that's not true if you pool test.

That's how the Chinese are able to screen their population so quickly.

I'm not sure if that would even work, since there are questions about the reliability of the COVID-19 antibody tests. There really isn't much of a point in testing everyone for that yet, when the test fails to detect the antibodies 30 to 50% of the time.