NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

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spacejamz

spacejamz

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The number of cases went from 30K last Saturday to over 100K today and people still are not getting the "Shelter at home concept" and what purpose it serves....thanks to these idiots, what should have only taken a few weeks will easily take two months or more...
 
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Greenman

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spacejamz said:
The number of cases went from 30K last Saturday to over 100K today and people still are not getting the "Shelter at home concept" and what purpose it serves....thanks to these idiots, what should have only taken a few weeks will easily take two months or more...
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A lot of them aren't idiots, they're people that have to make a living.
 
DrMrLordX

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Dari said:
Take out the [redacted] hotbeds of NYC, Washington and California
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NYC and Cali are major entry points to the United States. Cali (and somehow Washington state) got hit with cases presumably coming from China before there was a lockdown. NY got hit with travelers from Europe, though I'm still not 100% clear how Europe and Iran got seeded so quickly.

Mai72 said:
The new cases in America are so misleading. We could have 10X more new cases than France but we don't know because people still aren't being tested like they should. We need MASS TESTING!
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I kind of agree with you, but I'll remind you that those who develop pneumonia or other severe symptoms are the ones most-likely to show up on positive case reports in the U.S. That's why I think things might be going a little better than others suspect, since the number of exposures is surely at least 10x higher than we know, but those people aren't reporting symptoms.

Covid-19 was probably spreading in mid-to-late February in a lot of places, and those who were going to get sick probably already have. I think I and several of my social contacts here locally were exposed weeks ago. No symptoms. There are probably still going to be instances of people spreading the disease during quarantine conditions as they go out to stores to buy food and such, but those should be tamped down a bit, and one more week of quarantine ought to bring those to the fore. We can probably start letting people out as long as we restrict interstate travel to those involved in supply chains (that have their own sanitation procedures). In fact, giving people a 25-50mi travel radius for work would probably be acceptable. Obviously some hotspots (Cali, NY) need more restrictions than elsewhere.

BudAshes said:
Not saying Dari isn't an idiot, but Chinese isn't a race and nothing he said was technically racist. Xenophobic and predgidice, yes, but not racist.
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Ichinisan said:
It has a bunch of names. "CCP virus" then. OK?
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Just be like CNN and call it Wuhan Coronavirus, if you want to remind people of its true origin.
 
brianmanahan

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Greenman said:
A lot of them aren't idiots, they're people that have to make a living.
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yeah that's the thing - unless people have money saved up, if their employer says they have to come to work, they have to come to work

and every employer is going to do that unless otherwise ordered to shut down

and even when ordered to shut down, there's dozens of non-essential businesses around here that are still open
 
Svnla

Svnla

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ponyo said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52077395

When I heard about India 21 day lockdown, I wondered how that's going to work in a country of 1.3 billion people. And it's not as if people had time to get ready. India basically gave its people like half a day to get ready. It's like PM Modi gave zero thought about any planning and what this surprise lockdown was going to do to the poor in the country. It's obvious he doesn't give care about them. It was sad to watch the video in the BBC article.
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Not just India with a huge population, other countries are having big problems too. I saw a story online earlier about South Africa, how the government is demanding everyone to stay inside and in the story, hundreds of people were packing next to each other like sardine to line up to go inside a grocery store at a poor township outside the capital. A lady was telling the the reporter how it was bad and if just one of them was sick, almost all of them would be sick too. One lone police officer tried in vain to tell everyone to have some space but no one listened to him.

In another story, how Italians are about to run out of food. One father with a little girl was online and said the girl only had 2 slides of bread recently and almost nothing left inside the house and he said there would be a revolution if things would not get better. Scary indeed.
 
spacejamz

spacejamz

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Greenman said:
A lot of them aren't idiots, they're people that have to make a living.
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Believe me, there are plenty of idiots out there who are not traveling to essential jobs, going to store for food/supplies or exercising around the home while using the 6' distance rule....In Dallas, there are still numerous cases of large gatherings (parties) where the police have had to intervene...
 
Muse

Muse

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shortylickens said:
Amazons recommendation this morning:

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Eh, $12.99 on Kindle... for that? Makes me think of Henry David Thoreau quotation:

"I would not run round a corner to see the world blow up "
 
Muse

Muse

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Captante said:
Don't feel sorry for yourself ... main rig currently is an FX-8350/GTX-980 *(which still runs everything I've thrown at it with no trouble somewhat surprisingly)
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I have some very legacy machines, 2006 Lenovo T60 I still use, and another T60 I bought for parts and fixed. Old desktops, but the mini-tower and the laptop I'm using right this moment run circles around that old stuff. I went to full format a 3TB HD a few days ago using an old machine and it was a day process because of the USB 2.0 limitation. I canceled that... My newish mini-rig did it in 20 hours.

This laptop makes my old laptops just a PITA to use. I didn't know what I was missing until I upgraded. It was people here at Anandtech Forums who clued me in and one of them pointed to the deal for this thing (refurb).
CZroe said:
Yes, the gulf between identified cases and actual number of cases in the US is huge. The difference is that the US is reporting every known case, whether by clinical diagnosis or testing. China definitely is not despite the huge spike in reporting when they added in clinical diagnoses. They are actively suppressing this by orders of magnitude.
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I knew something was very fishy when they reported a week or so ago that there were zero new cases for that day. That is entirely impossible.
 
destrekor

destrekor

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purbeast0 said:
That is 100000% false.

NY state had zero CONFIRMED cases on February 29th. There were definitely people with covid before then.

We are pretty sure our neighbor's friend had it back in January it was just never diagnosed as such. But all of his symptoms and the 9 day duration point directly to covid.

Oh, and it's not called the Chinese virus you idiot.
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Here's why I don't think those early infections were from SARS-CoV-2: it spread fast locally in Wuhan, once identified officially in late December, so if it was spreading around here early, it should have spread just as fast as it did inside of China. But it didn't, not until now. A couple solo cases here and there and then slowly started taking off. That official start in China likely meant first infections occurred late November.

We had something go around the office, late November through January., think family got it too. Some different experiences, but general trend of a couple week course through the body, at least from first symptom. No idea what incubation rate was, wasn't tracking back then.

It could have been any number of respiratory viruses back then. There was even a [now discredited?] report out of China of possibly more than one strain, with one being more contagious and more severe.

There's even the possibility it was one of the endemic human coronavirus strains, perhaps the NL63 strain, which has been going around in humans for a long long time.


Really the best thing is to assume this is truly new and unique and no prior experience appears to build immunity for this strain.

I'd love for a test to tell me what I had back toward the beginning of December, and what my boss may have gotten twice (one before me, once mid January).

Frankly I still find it just as possible that it was an accidental release, China seemed to have gotten on top of it mighty quick and fairly quickly started telling their people it was the US Army or something that released it. It's still just as possible it wasn't, we don't need that possibility as a means for the virus to get to this point.
 
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The easiest way to get emergency toilet paper is to go to a fast food place and ask for extra napkins.

I don't even request them and most places have given me 100 bill-sized stacks. I have so much emergency TP right now.
 
slayer202

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destrekor said:
Here's why I don't think those early infections were from SARS-CoV-2: it spread fast locally in Wuhan, once identified officially in late December, so if it was spreading around here early, it should have spread just as fast as it did inside of China. But it didn't, not until now. A couple solo cases here and there and then slowly started taking off. That official start in China likely meant first infections occurred late November.

We had something go around the office, late November through January., think family got it too. Some different experiences, but general trend of a couple week course through the body, at least from first symptom. No idea what incubation rate was, wasn't tracking back then.

It could have been any number of respiratory viruses back then. There was even a [now discredited?] report out of China of possibly more than one strain, with one being more contagious and more severe.

There's even the possibility it was one of the endemic human coronavirus strains, perhaps the NL63 strain, which has been going around in humans for a long long time.


Really the best thing is to assume this is truly new and unique and no prior experience appears to build immunity for this strain.

I'd love for a test to tell me what I had back toward the beginning of December, and what my boss may have gotten twice (one before me, once mid January).

Frankly I still find it just as possible that it was an accidental release, China seemed to have gotten on top of it mighty quick and fairly quickly started telling their people it was the US Army or something that released it. It's still just as possible it wasn't, we don't need that possibility as a means for the virus to get to this point.
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We still have lots of flu strains and plenty of other things that get you sick and have the same symptoms as covid19. Find an office that goes a winter season without something spreading through the office. Until we have reliable and available testing to know whether you've had it or not, there's no use guessing
 
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CZroe

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mopardude87 said:
Between possible future looters and a nutball roomie causing me issues who likes to use his bat as a weapon when he gets his fits, it may just be time to settle for something a bit new and improved JUST in case.

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I love the show and just maybe this nuttball will back off when he sees that? Also about 8'' inch bigger then his as well.
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Some people tried to grab and run where I work yesterday. Our off-duty police officer had just come on the clock and he shut it down real quick. :)

Not going to say the looting has started because this happens often enough when things are normal, but you may get to use Lucille yet, mopardude87. ;)
 
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