Nolan's next: Dunkirk

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lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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Somewhat spoilery stuff attacked.

Large pleasing sweeping visuals. Great soundtrack. Film follows 3 separate commingled stories. If you follow the text at the beginning you'll notice he's using some time-warping to have them all coexist at the same time for the viewer.

Other than the air combat sequences, which are done more like the orchestrated aerial dancing you'd see at a flight show than an engagement occuring several months into an armed conflict, there is minimal action of the war film variety. It even goes so far as to follow the Force Awaken lead and you don't see a German until the closing credits begin.

While combat is a minimum, the language/phrases used are pleasantly authentic.

During the heckled trailer scene where the one guy was spotted to be looking, I tried to catch it during the actual film and think he may have modified it. I could spot the same person but his solo face stare seemed to be greatly reduced.

While quite effective for the story, the final flight of the fighter was rather a bit much.

Film starts with the scene of what appears to be a straggler British squad walking into the city with the leaflets dropping. So you lose out on any of the forming the pocket other than what the introductory text gives you.

You do get the desperate feeling of the men on the beach, and that seems to be the main focus of the film.

Overall I'd call it a wartime drama, and as that it does a very good job of entertaining.
 

Homerboy

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Sounds like a good review to me @lupi
My 16 year old will probably be disapointed in the lack of action, but he does enjoy the WWII storylines in general I guess.
 

Dr. Detroit

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We've got IMAX 70MM tickets for Sunday on a non-dome screen.

Really looking forward to the experience!
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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WOW

I will say this, the first hour I was like ok this isn't bad but damn the music, cinematography, the second half of this movie just totally changed the whole movie from ok to great.
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Spoilers follow.

I like a good WWII movie and was looking forward to seeing this one. But, man, it manages to be both boring and annoying at the same time, and that ain't easy. The annoying: story arcs that jump around in time so you have to consciously think about whether he's just gone back in time or not; music that kept going and going and going, holding a single note for minutes at a time; and mumbled dialogue.

The boring: if you're retelling a true story, you better have characters that grab you and things that aren't simply the retelling. Dogfights no different than ones you've seen a dozen times although much more visually interesting. Nothing very interesting about the characters other than, again, what you've seen in every WWII movie. Was there anything in this story beyond what the average person already knew about Dunkirk (troops trapped on beach, rescued by civilians while battles go on)? No. I just couldn't get engaged with the plot and was just waiting for it to be over.

I went back to read some of the RT reviews that were so glowing, and see lots of stuff like this: "tour de force of cinematic craft and technique". Maybe that's true. I'm not a movie critic so I don't really care about craft and technique. I just want an entertaining story that draws me in, with a picture that's in focus and dialogue I can understand.
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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Spoilers follow.

I like a good WWII movie and was looking forward to seeing this one. But, man, it manages to be both boring and annoying at the same time, and that ain't easy. The annoying: story arcs that jump around in time so you have to consciously think about whether he's just gone back in time or not; music that kept going and going and going, holding a single note for minutes at a time; and mumbled dialogue.

The boring: if you're retelling a true story, you better have characters that grab you and things that aren't simply the retelling. Dogfights no different than ones you've seen a dozen times although much more visually interesting. Nothing very interesting about the characters other than, again, what you've seen in every WWII movie. Was there anything in this story beyond what the average person already knew about Dunkirk (troops trapped on beach, rescued by civilians while battles go on)? No. I just couldn't get engaged with the plot and was just waiting for it to be over.

I went back to read some of the RT reviews that were so glowing, and see lots of stuff like this: "tour de force of cinematic craft and technique". Maybe that's true. I'm not a movie critic so I don't really care about craft and technique. I just want an entertaining story that draws me in, with a picture that's in focus and dialogue I can understand.
I can understand most people not liking this. There's not a ton of dialog or action. This movie won't make tons of money like his other movies because it doesn't cater to the average movie goer. It's more emotional and cinematic. I personally loved it and the end tying everything together was great for me. But yea I can definitely see it not making tons of money and lots of people not liking it.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Saw it last night and I think it's better than much of his recent work. The level of tension he was able to create and sustain through out the entire movie was really something. It made the movie feel longer than it's run time, which in this case I didn't think to be a bad thing. As to be expected the cinematography and sound were top of the game. I appreciate how he cut the story together and what may could have seemed gimmicky in other movies is effective here.

Also he loves using LFE as almost a character or a weapon against the audience lol but it was really well utilized.

I'd like to see it in 70mm too but opted to see what it looked like on a new laser unit instead first.
 
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Dr. Detroit

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Witnessed this masterpiece today in all its glory of 70MM IMAX. Bought advanced reserved tickets and had perfect seats.

Rumor has it this will be re-released in December for an Oscar push.
 
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Homerboy

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Saw it on Sunday. Blown away.
Instant masterpiece.
I can not say enough good things about it.
 

brainhulk

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I saw it on 4dx with my Dad. I really liked it. My dad is totally into war movies. He didn't like it as much since he was looking for more saving Ryan's privates Omaha beach type battles.

His face though when an explosion started moving the seats and wind started blowing in our faces was epic. He got so startled, the popcorn jumped out of his hand. LoL
 
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purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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Its a very short drive from Manassas. I might make the trip.
What is? My brother was talking about going to I think the Smithsonian to watch it in true IMAX. Is that what you are referring to? Do you know of any other places in the DMV that have a real setup?
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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got tickets for this Saturday, noon at Lockheed Martin at A&S museum, 70mm. so stoked.
 

zinfamous

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What is? My brother was talking about going to I think the Smithsonian to watch it in true IMAX. Is that what you are referring to? Do you know of any other places in the DMV that have a real setup?

https://www.si.edu/imax

I'm not familiar with the Airbus theater, but the one at the National Mall (Lockheed Martin) is certainly legit. It is the kind of presentation that you want for this film (this where Nolan was this past weekend to present it).
 
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purbeast0

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https://www.si.edu/imax

I'm not familiar with the Airbus theater, but the one at the National Mall (Lockheed Martin) is certainly legit. It is the kind of presentation that you want for this film (this where Nolan was this past weekend to present it).
Thanks. It must be the one at the Air and Space museum he was talking about.
 

NoCreativity

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Saw this last night. As others have said, not a typical war movie. I thought it was great. Music and sound effects were awesome.Nolan did a great job keeping the tension pegged near 10 almost the entire movie.
 

slag

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Dec 14, 2000
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Somewhat spoilery stuff attacked.

Large pleasing sweeping visuals. Great soundtrack. Film follows 3 separate commingled stories. If you follow the text at the beginning you'll notice he's using some time-warping to have them all coexist at the same time for the viewer.

Other than the air combat sequences, which are done more like the orchestrated aerial dancing you'd see at a flight show than an engagement occuring several months into an armed conflict, there is minimal action of the war film variety. It even goes so far as to follow the Force Awaken lead and you don't see a German until the closing credits begin.

While combat is a minimum, the language/phrases used are pleasantly authentic.

During the heckled trailer scene where the one guy was spotted to be looking, I tried to catch it during the actual film and think he may have modified it. I could spot the same person but his solo face stare seemed to be greatly reduced.

While quite effective for the story, the final flight of the fighter was rather a bit much.

Film starts with the scene of what appears to be a straggler British squad walking into the city with the leaflets dropping. So you lose out on any of the forming the pocket other than what the introductory text gives you.

You do get the desperate feeling of the men on the beach, and that seems to be the main focus of the film.

Overall I'd call it a wartime drama, and as that it does a very good job of entertaining.


Watched this last night. I didn't originally understand the text on the different scenes. It wasn't clear to me or several people around me that he's trying to piece 3 different stories together using 2 different timelines. I was like.. WTF is he trying to mean by putting 1 hr, 1 day, etc on each scene? Not clear at all.

I was hoping they would focus more on why dunkirk was the town everyone was in which they kind of did with the leaflets, but wanted more story around that.

Good movie in all, but not as good as Fury.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Watched this last night. I didn't originally understand the text on the different scenes. It wasn't clear to me or several people around me that he's trying to piece 3 different stories together using 2 different timelines. I was like.. WTF is he trying to mean by putting 1 hr, 1 day, etc on each scene? Not clear at all.

Pretty typical for a Nolan film to require multiple viewings to understand the whole picture.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Watched this last night. I didn't originally understand the text on the different scenes. It wasn't clear to me or several people around me that he's trying to piece 3 different stories together using 2 different timelines. I was like.. WTF is he trying to mean by putting 1 hr, 1 day, etc on each scene? Not clear at all.

I was hoping they would focus more on why dunkirk was the town everyone was in which they kind of did with the leaflets, but wanted more story around that.

Good movie in all, but not as good as Fury.


That was what I meant by him hinting at his use of time bending with the 1hr, day, week text at the beginning.