No passing. Truck tries to kill motorcyclist

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. . . If someone startles you like that, blast the horn and shake it off. Too many take it to extremes.

Agreeing with your post in general, but I thought the truck driver anticipated the rider passing and attempted to run him off in watching the video.

Anyhow, OP; do you know what the turnout of this video is? Looks like by the end both parties were on the phone . . ..
 

DCal430

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A lot of bikers do ride recklessly. I see it on the highway all the time. Tearing up the 401, weaving in and out of traffic. However, the truck driver took a relatively minor infraction and turned it into what could have been a serious tragedy. If someone startles you like that, blast the horn and shake it off. Too many take it to extremes.

Going over 100mph is not a minor infraction, it is a jail time here.
 

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Everyone in that video was stupid. The dude in the truck has major anger issues. And really, what is the other guy calling the cops for?

"Yes officer, my friend was trying to pass this guy on a double yellow at 100mph and he tried to run my friend off the road! Victim victim!!!"

While the riders were in the wrong for speeding, they are entirely in the right to call the cops since the truck was so out of line in this scenario.

Yes, driving on public roads at excessive speeds is not cool. Especially backroads, as sometimes the worst accidents occur there because of people going at crazy speeds and someone ignoring signs in an unfamiliar area. The speeders, if familiar with the area, don't often cause the accident, but they make the accident particularly messy... someone taking an unknown corner too fast, going too wide... or missing the signs posted at the intersection or whatever. Hear about the fatalities around my aunt's farm all the time.

But seriously, so the riders were wrong... that doesn't excuse the truck driver one bit in this... and I hope they did receive some appropriate help from LEOs, as that video definitely supports their cause.

But yes, they need to save those speeds for the more developed highways. I support speeding, if you know your vehicle's limits and how to handle against those limits... but there is a time and place for them, which takes into consideration weather, visibility, road condition, and the ability to predict other drivers.
Then again, quite often the better drivers can almost always get away with high speeds (safety-speaking, not necessarily getting away with zero tickets ;)). But sometimes the risk isn't worthwhile, while other times it's both worthwhile and fun.
 

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They were in the middle of nowhere and it wasn't the truck drivers job to put them in their place. Call the cops and move on. His rear tire was really close to hitting the dirt on that left side and could easily have been a disaster. Then to proceed to chase him down. Speeding and passing VS. trying to run someone off the road. I hate people. Then again I couldn't tell how fast they were going. Shouldn't be hitting over 100 on a public road.

They were not in the middle of nowhere, asshole. They were passing people's homes, churches, stores, etc. Just because it's not downtown Manhattan doesn't mean it's the middle of nowhere. The riders and the truck were a danger to the people there. They should all go to jail
 
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Agreeing with your post in general, but I thought the truck driver anticipated the rider passing and attempted to run him off in watching the video.

Anyhow, OP; do you know what the turnout of this video is? Looks like by the end both parties were on the phone . . ..

The fact that the truck driver is standing by his efforts, even when the riders claim they have video of him... just shows how deluded and dangerous this individual is. I mean... he thinks there won't be any trouble coming to him because he was somehow in the right? Trying to prove all riders are dangerous and trying to make a point with some of them, this is something he wants to stand around and discuss with LEOs?
I mean, most assholes who do shit like that understand they are in the wrong and get out of town if the threat of police is near.

Oh, and first watch plus second watch... it definitely looks like he turned into the opposite lane to intentionally block the pass of the cycle rider.
Also, passing at the wrong time is definitely not cool... but still isn't an infraction that deserves attention from fellow motorists, besides maybe a horn or flash of lights to let someone else know "hey, I saw that shit... not cool man, not cool."
 

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The fact that the truck driver is standing by his efforts, even when the riders claim they have video of him... just shows how deluded and dangerous this individual is. I mean... he thinks there won't be any trouble coming to him because he was somehow in the right? Trying to prove all riders are dangerous and trying to make a point with some of them, this is something he wants to stand around and discuss with LEOs?
I mean, most assholes who do shit like that understand they are in the wrong and get out of town if the threat of police is near.

Oh, and first watch plus second watch... it definitely looks like he turned into the opposite lane to intentionally block the pass of the cycle rider.
Also, passing at the wrong time is definitely not cool... but still isn't an infraction that deserves attention from fellow motorists, besides maybe a horn or flash of lights to let someone else know "hey, I saw that shit... not cool man, not cool."

Him being guilty of attempted murder doesn't make them not guilty of reckless driving and endangerment. When the LEO showed up he should have taken them all to jail
 

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The truck driver tried to kill a human being. The sport bike driver broke a traffic law. Your perspective is whacked.

Actually the bike driver committed a criminal offense. Driving at such excessive speeds is a criminal offense.
 

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I'd like to see Pickup Bubba try that with a 1%er and then get all chesty with a crow bar.No Cops would be needed though Paramedics probably would.
 

Vic Vega

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The truck driver tried to kill a human being. The sport bike driver broke a traffic law. Your perspective is whacked.

A traffic law designed to keep people safe. Suppose he wipes that bike out, goes into someone's yard and through a swingset full of kids. The riders put lives at risk just as the truck driver did you blithering idiot. They riders and the truck driver are all assholes, IMO what the truck driver did is terrible but no worse than what the riders were doing. The riders could have easily killed someone on that road. Put them all in jail.
 

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FACT: What the bikers did was just as bad as someone getting drunk off their ass and riding a car down a freeway.
 
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Actually the bike driver committed a criminal offense. Driving at such excessive speeds is a criminal offense.

Proof please? The bike cams make it look like you're going faster than you actually are. But there is no proof they were speeding at all unless you have them on radar. So all they were legally in the wrong for was making a pass on a double yellow. A minor moving violation. The driver should be charged with reckless driving and who knows what else.
 

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I'd like to see Pickup Bubba try that with a 1%er and then get all chesty with a crow bar.No Cops would be needed though Paramedics probably would.

I know several riders that are regular Joe six pack kinda guy's, and they would have fucked that truck driver up. Attempting to kill someone tends to make them aggressive.
 

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Proof please? The bike cams make it look like you're going faster than you actually are. But there is no proof they were speeding at all unless you have them on radar. So all they were legally in the wrong for was making a pass on a double yellow. A minor moving violation. The driver should be charged with reckless driving and who knows what else.

Didn't someone confirm they were going over 100 MPH.
 

destrekor

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A traffic law designed to keep people safe. Suppose he wipes that bike out, goes into someone's yard and through a swingset full of kids. The riders put lives at risk just as the truck driver did you blithering idiot. They riders and the truck driver are all assholes, IMO what the truck driver did is terrible but no worse than what the riders were doing. The riders could have easily killed someone on that road. Put them all in jail.

We have no real idea how fast they were going.

Even then, please don't tell me you eat up the government's bullshit about speeds and safety. 65mph is slow, it's about average speed and safety when combining multiple parties, plus highway speed limits are roughly the most efficient speed to travel long distances - in terms of MPG.
But sometimes more efficient use of time is better than more efficient fuel use, at least imho.

If you actually know how to drive, speed limits are irrelevant and the signs can be ignored - unless you are worried about cops and how fast over the limit you could be cited for - which is the only thing that usually slows me down.
With weather, things change. But sunlight, dry road, good pavement - driving is easy if you know how to handle the vehicle and can understand it's language.

I am most certainly NOT arguing that speeding on country roads that are all curvy and running through towns is a good idea... but it's not a "think of the children!" fear-mongering event, sorry... it just is not so. 100 on such roads, not cool imho. 70, 80? Cake, if you know what you're doing.
Half the drivers out there who speed fall into the category that includes, oh I dunno, roughly 75% of drivers out there - people who really don't know how to drive, the type that treat driving as simply something to get from one place to another, simply another tool.
Well, it is a tool, but like most tools, you should fear it, respect it, and always, always always, attempt to master it. And that's each and every vehicle.

Most drivers scare the shit out of me, to speak honestly. Most are so damn foggy headed behind the wheel, they are simply thinking about what they are heading to, or who knows what. Few actively listen to what the car tells them, because half the time, it's hard to make the vehicle talk about it's limits when you are nowhere near limits on most occasions - and knowing those limits is extremely important.
edit: also not arguing to always drive near the limit. That's called racing, and there IS a time and place for that - and that ones more simple: it's not on any public road, at least, not if those public roads haven't been closed down for such an event.
 
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I know several riders that are regular Joe six pack kinda guy's, and they would have fucked that truck driver up.

Well, that would have been bright and solved things!
 

destrekor

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FACT: What the bikers did was just as bad as someone getting drunk off their ass and riding a car down a freeway.

Fact: you're annoying as shit with your anti-speeding rhetoric. You clearly don't understand driving if you can't handle/understand high speeds and safety.

Fact: driving, even at 100mph, is nowhere near the same as driving drunk.

Fact: driving, even at 100mph, is nowhere near the same as attempting to take a life.