No passing. Truck tries to kill motorcyclist

[Zedtom]

The truck driver says he grew up around there and drives that road all the time...that's as funny as people who live in the city who speed through their own neighborhoods because, after all, it's their neighborhood.

 

[alkemyst]

i like how our ATOT experts can determine speed from a video...also has anyone looked up what the limit is on this road to begin with?

Sure passing on a double is 'illegal' but fuck you all if you haven't done just that nor speed yourselves.

I swear ATOT has turned into defending whatever side makes no sense so they can feel good about themselves.

 

[Nightrainsrt4]

They were not in the middle of nowhere, asshole. They were passing people's homes, churches, stores, etc. Just because it's not downtown Manhattan doesn't mean it's the middle of nowhere. The riders and the truck were a danger to the people there. They should all go to jail

Most of what I saw was empty land. There were more barns/garages than houses before the truck incident. Obviously they were a danger, but less so there than where I am that is for sure. I was only comparing the speeding to trying to run someone off the road. No need to resort to swearing. Jeez. I don't condone anything in that video. I don't speed. I don't ride. So get over yourself and stop swearing at every person you respond to.

 

[SparkyJJO]

The cyclist did lie tho "we never cross that yellow line" - bullcrap.

Still, no excuse for the truck driver.

 

[alkemyst]

The cyclist did lie tho "we never cross that yellow line" - bullcrap.

Still, no excuse for the truck driver.

Normally they probably don't. They probably lane split.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Normally they probably don't. They probably lane split.

Lane splitting is still not legal in many places. Not sure about there.

 

[shortylickens]

Just got back from the restaurant with my mom.

I swear people deliberately drive like shit on Memorial day. Its like a contest to see who's the biggest asshole.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Fact: you're annoying as shit with your anti-speeding rhetoric. You clearly don't understand driving if you can't handle/understand high speeds and safety.

Fact: driving, even at 100mph, is nowhere near the same as driving drunk.

Fact: driving, even at 100mph, is nowhere near the same as attempting to take a life.

The government needs to drive for us. 😛

Seriously, this redneck should have a new set of balls hanging from his pickup tow hitch and they should be his.

 

[Howard]

A lot of bikers do ride recklessly. I see it on the highway all the time. Tearing up the 401, weaving in and out of traffic. However, the truck driver took a relatively minor infraction and turned it into what could have been a serious tragedy. If someone startles you like that, blast the horn and shake it off. Too many take it to extremes.

Very rarely do I see bikers on the 401.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

In a perfect world the truck would have clipped the bike, lost control and both driver and cyclist would have died in a fiery crash. Bunch of assholes claiming the other side is even bigger assholes. The roads in Kentucky would be a far better place if Darwinism claimed all those involved.

 

[zinfamous]

Kentucky: the land of freedom and vehicular manslaughter?

 

[Schadenfreude]

A traffic law designed to keep people safe. Suppose he wipes that bike out, goes into someone's yard and through a swingset full of kids. The riders put lives at risk just as the truck driver did you blithering idiot. They riders and the truck driver are all assholes, IMO what the truck driver did is terrible but no worse than what the riders were doing. The riders could have easily killed someone on that road. Put them all in jail.

I'm going to disagree with this statement. There's too many "what if" scenarios to really cover all grounds; what if my car, parked outside, suddenly rolls off and hits a pedestrian? Should I be punished beforehand?

Going to the specific scenario that the OP has posted, let's break it down.

1. No one was hurt in this exchange (thankfully)

Having said that, the law does look into intent as well as action as I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm no lawyer!).

2. The bike riders may or may not have sped - that's irrelevant, really - but they did overtake on a double-yellow line, which is illegal. For their sake, I'm going to assume they surveyed the surroundings and attempted to overtake the vehicle with the intent of . . . well, (possibly) speeding and improperly overtaking the vehicle.

3. The truck driver, on the other hand, looks like he anticipated the riders and physically attempted to drive the other rider off the road - which resulted in him crossing the double-yellow lanes himself, by the way - and looks like he was attempting to match the rider's speeds or the riders slowed down (irrelevant for the discussion). Observing the driver, I'd say he used the truck as a weapon with the intent of physically harming someone, seriously or even worse.

Outside of assuming their intent on that specific exchange, it's far too impractical and implausible to assign a blanket statement for speeders. Yes, if they did go over 100MPH and the local regulations mandate jail time, fine.

EDITED FOR CLARIFICATION
- If the riders succeeded in their attempt, the likelihood of ANYONE - the riders/drivers/innocent children on swings nearby/kind and gentle elderly folk sitting in parks feeding ducks - getting injured in the process is fairly low.
- If the driver succeeded in their attempt, the likelihood of someone - particularly the rider - getting hurt/injured is pretty much guaranteed. The only question is to whether call for an ambulance or a hearse.

 

[TridenT]

what fun is a motorcycle if you can't take it over 100? might as well just walk

This. What is the point of having a sports car or muscle car or basically anything but something used primarily for utility? Most of you may as well get a Prius if you want to talk like you never go above the speed limit or break any laws, ever... with your 500hp+...

That said, the motorcyclists are far more in the right that the driver. You could say that they were riding recklessly, but who gives a fuck. People do not get sports bikes and then drive them at the speed limit. The fact is, this whole thing would not have been a problem if the truck driver was not a total dickscarf.

 

[Beev]

Truck driver was an asshole, but those riders were fucking stupid. Darwin should have taken them if anything.

 

[Greenman]

Well, that would have been bright and solved things!

Like I said, someone attempting to kill you tends to make people aggressive. I have personally been annoyed several times when others have attempted to kill me.

 

[TheVrolok]

Both extremes of a stereotype on display, if you ask me. Of course, being a rider myself, what the the truck driver was doing was willfully endanger the life(s?) of other people using a flying ton of metal as a weapon whereas the riders were just being normal stupid squids.

The cops should show up on the scene, examine the video, and cite the riders for reckless riding and haul the driver's ass off to jail.

This. Everyone in this video is a fucking idiot. Obviously the truck driver was a complete fuckwad for what he did, but those riders were just as bad. Driving that fast on a country rode, etc? Even better, at the end of the video the rider is saying how they never crossed the double yellow, which is exactly what his friend did to illegally pass the truck initially. All 3 of them should have their licenses revoked.

 

[Jumpem]

Motorcyclist had it coming riding like that.

 

[alkemyst]

Motorcyclist had it coming riding like that.

wow just wow...good thing you have no balls in real life.

 

[jlee]

I'm going to disagree with this statement. There's too many "what if" scenarios to really cover all grounds; what if my car, parked outside, suddenly rolls off and hits a pedestrian? Should I be punished beforehand?

Going to the specific scenario that the OP has posted, let's break it down.

1. No one was hurt in this exchange (thankfully)

Having said that, the law does look into intent as well as action as I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm no lawyer!).

2. The bike riders may or may not have sped - that's irrelevant, really - but they did overtake on a double-yellow line, which is illegal. For their sake, I'm going to assume they surveyed the surroundings and attempted to overtake the vehicle with the intent of . . . well, (possibly) speeding and improperly overtaking the vehicle.

3. The truck driver, on the other hand, looks like he anticipated the riders and physically attempted to drive the other rider off the road - which resulted in him crossing the double-yellow lanes himself, by the way - and looks like he was attempting to match the rider's speeds or the riders slowed down (irrelevant for the discussion). Observing the driver, I'd say he used the truck as a weapon with the intent of physically harming someone, seriously or even worse.

Outside of assuming their intent on that specific exchange, it's far too impractical and implausible to assign a blanket statement for speeders. Yes, if they did go over 100MPH and the local regulations mandate jail time, fine.

EDITED FOR CLARIFICATION
- If the riders succeeded in their attempt, the likelihood of ANYONE - the riders/drivers/innocent children on swings nearby/kind and gentle elderly folk sitting in parks feeding ducks - getting injured in the process is fairly low.
- If the driver succeeded in their attempt, the likelihood of someone - particularly the rider - getting hurt/injured is pretty much guaranteed. The only question is to whether call for an ambulance or a hearse.

I agree.

Actually the bike driver committed a criminal offense. Driving at such excessive speeds is a criminal offense.

Are you speaking for Kentucky's laws specifically, or are you assuming that every other state has the same laws as your locality?

Regardless, murder and stealing a candy bar are both criminal offenses. Surely they must be equivalent, right?

 

[Jumpem]

wow just wow...good thing you have no balls in real life.

The biker shouldn't be dead, but he certainly should have been messed with.

 

[Beev]

Sure passing on a double is 'illegal' but fuck you all if you haven't done just that.

Nope, sure haven't, because I'm not a retard.

Truck driver was completely in the wrong, but those cyclists deserve to have their licenses permanently revoked. Drive correctly or not at all.

 

[TridenT]

I agree.



Are you speaking for Kentucky's laws specifically, or are you assuming that every other state has the same laws as your locality?

Regardless, murder and stealing a candy bar are both criminal offenses. Surely they must be equivalent, right?

On ATOT they are.

 

[jlee]

Nope, sure haven't, because I'm not a retard.

Truck driver was completely in the wrong, but those cyclists deserve to have their licenses permanently revoked. Drive correctly or not at all.

That pass would've been legal in VT (not speaking for speed, but the pass itself). Cause for permanent revocation? Overreact much?

For all you people thinking the bikes were going 100mph...from the parts that I watched, the truck was keeping up (or gaining on, look at 1:37) with the bikes. Do you think a pickup with an ATV in the bed is going to be running 100mph? It also seems that the truck spent far more time in the wrong lane of traffic than the motorcycles did. The riders each made one illegal pass. The truck driver was quite likely at an unsafe speed for a loaded pickup (notice how he has a tendency to use both full lanes of traffic to make it through corners). The motorcycles were within the safe operating limits of their vehicles.

Illegal? Sure. As bad as the truck? Not at all.

 

[Beev]

That pass would've been legal in VT. Cause for permanent revocation? Overreact much?

I'm the one that started the "Drivers licenses should be harder to get and easier to lose" thread 😛. The rider and truck driver would both lose their licenses, permanently, in a perfect world.

 

[alkemyst]

States that do not have a statute prohibiting the act of lane splitting by motorcycles.
Arkansas
California
Delaware
Kentucky
Idaho
Montana
Mississippi
Missouri
New Jersey
New Mexico
North Carolina
Ohio
Oklahoma
Texas
West Virginia
Wisconsin

add that to the fact that in every state you are supposed to not block/attempt to prevent a driver attempting to pass.