No passing. Truck tries to kill motorcyclist

[JulesMaximus]

I was riding up in the mountains a few weeks ago and came up behind some guy in a pickup towing an RV, he had 4 cars stacked up behind him that he was already holding up and a couple more cars came up behind me while I was waiting. We passed at least 2 turnouts where he could have pulled over to let us pass him but he didn't. I passed the 3 cars in front of me when I could and then set this jerkwad up for a pass as soon as I could see far enough ahead that I could get around him and not get creamed by oncoming traffic. I don't know how he felt about my passing him nor do I really care. He should have used the turnouts long before I took matters into my own hands. Most of this was done over double yellows. Those lines were painted for car traffic. A motorcycle can get safely by a slow moving vehicle in so much less time than a car that it makes no sense to just sit behind slow moving traffic with stubborn idiot drivers who refuse to use turnouts despite the numerous turnouts available and signs saying slower traffic should use the turnouts.

I'd say that at least 60-70% of drivers will wave you past or use turnouts to let a motorcycle by. The others get passed when it is safe to do so.

I really see nothing wrong with what the motorcyclist did in this video.

 

[PingSpike]

People take personal offense to getting passed. I've never seen someone swerve like that, but I have had cars speed up when I'm trying to pass them on a two lane road. In fact, it's happened so frequently that I now rely on a technique to execute these passes

1. drop back 50-70 yards
2. when the other side of the road is about to be clear accelerate 10-15 mph
3. once I'm close to his bumper, make a go/no-go decision
4. If I go, floor the gas and pass him as quickly as possible

This puts me in the oncoming lane for just a few seconds and since I'm already 15-20 mph faster than him as I pass him, he can't accelerate fast enough to put me in a dangerous position.

This is no joke and its how I operate as well. Old people in crown vics going 10 under the speed limit will try to force a head on collision killing you, your family and some other hapless soul in the other lane rather than suffer the perceived indignity of being passed. I can't beat their V8 but with the surprise strike I can take advantage of their poor reaction time and be on the other side before they know what is happening.

 

[dpodblood]

This is why having extra power is a good thing. So you can get away from the other crazy assholes on the road willing to take your life.

 

[Numenorean]

I was riding up in the mountains a few weeks ago and came up behind some guy in a pickup towing an RV, he had 4 cars stacked up behind him that he was already holding up and a couple more cars came up behind me while I was waiting. We passed at least 2 turnouts where he could have pulled over to let us pass him but he didn't. I passed the 3 cars in front of me when I could and then set this jerkwad up for a pass as soon as I could see far enough ahead that I could get around him and not get creamed by oncoming traffic. I don't know how he felt about my passing him nor do I really care. He should have used the turnouts long before I took matters into my own hands. Most of this was done over double yellows. Those lines were painted for car traffic. A motorcycle can get safely by a slow moving vehicle in so much less time than a car that it makes no sense to just sit behind slow moving traffic with stubborn idiot drivers who refuse to use turnouts despite the numerous turnouts available and signs saying slower traffic should use the turnouts.

I'd say that at least 60-70% of drivers will wave you past or use turnouts to let a motorcycle by. The others get passed when it is safe to do so.

I really see nothing wrong with what the motorcyclist did in this video.

I agree people should use turnouts - I hate that when I get behind people in my car on mountain roads. I don't mind waiting until there is a turnout but they need to use it.

In this video, the only reason that it seemed the motorcyclist passed was so he could speed. That's what's wrong.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I've got nothing against driving 100+, but only when following all the other rules (safe following distance, only pass where it's legal, etc.) Fast doesn't have to put lives at risk.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I agree people should use turnouts - I hate that when I get behind people in my car on mountain roads. I don't mind waiting until there is a turnout but they need to use it.

In this video, the only reason that it seemed the motorcyclist passed was so he could speed. That's what's wrong.

Meh, people speed all the time here. The speed limit on the freeway is 65mph but 80 is the typical speed traffic flows and I see people going beyond that all the time. I didn't see any speed limit signs in the video nor did I see the speedo on the motorcycle so I don't even know if he was speeding.

 

[skyking]

I agree people should use turnouts - I hate that when I get behind people in my car on mountain roads. I don't mind waiting until there is a turnout but they need to use it.

In this video, the only reason that it seemed the motorcyclist passed was so he could speed. That's what's wrong.

That impression of "track day" on a public road, with helmet cam. I agree, it is disconcerting and dangerous if there are blind intersections and driveways onto the road. I saw plenty of them.
I'd be a total hypocrite if I said I never drove for fun like that. I tend to choose roads that have little or no access on them at all.
None of that would excuse the truck driver. He had a screw loose to do what he did. Any sane driver makes it easier for someone to pass.

 

[ShawnD1]

None of that would excuse the truck driver. He had a screw loose to do what he did. Any sane driver makes it easier for someone to pass.

This is exactly why he needs to be in jail. He didn't hurt anyone this time but what about next time? Is he going to run a Toyota Prius off the road because it "looks gay" ?

 

[JulesMaximus]

This is exactly why he needs to be in jail. He didn't hurt anyone this time but what about next time? Is he going to run a Toyota Prius off the road because it "looks gay" ?

What if it had an Obama sticker on it?

 

[ShawnD1]

What if it had an Obama sticker on it?

Give him the finger before running him off the road?

 

[skyking]

Thank you Captain Obvious. Of course he should be in jail.

 

[dpodblood]

This is exactly why he needs to be in jail. He didn't hurt anyone this time but what about next time? Is he going to run a Toyota Prius off the road because it "looks gay" ?

Reminds me of...

 

[Numenorean]

This is exactly why he needs to be in jail. He didn't hurt anyone this time but what about next time? Is he going to run a Toyota Prius off the road because it "looks gay" ?

If he needs to go to jail, so do the motorcyclists.

 

[ShawnD1]

Reminds me of...

ha. That episode shows that there are entire towns in the southern US that should be in jail.

 

[dpodblood]

ha. That episode shows that there are entire towns in the southern US that should be in jail.

Indeed. That was scary. "Imma go get da boyees!"

 

[JulesMaximus]

If he needs to go to jail, so do the motorcyclists.

Jail for the motorcyclists? For what? Passing on double yellows? Filming a douche against his wishes? Are you going to start throwing people in jail for jaywalking too?

 

[zoiks]

Damn. He missed. Twice.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Jail for the motorcyclists? For what? Passing on double yellows? Filming a douche against his wishes? Are you going to start throwing people in jail for jaywalking too?

I wouldn't mind seeing citations given to jaywalkers. But first I would love to see bicyclists given tickets for breezing through stop signs, failing to give right of way, etc. The Amish are polite, the velodrome sponsored people are not.

Regardless, I must say that my prior statements in this thread are general ones. In this particular case, the truck was way in the wrong. The bikes were a bit in the wrong. 2 wrongs almost made a death.

 

[Numenorean]

Jail for the motorcyclists? For what? Passing on double yellows? Filming a douche against his wishes? Are you going to start throwing people in jail for jaywalking too?

Reckless Endangerment

 

[JulesMaximus]

Reckless Endangerment

Reckless endangerment: A person commits the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. “Reckless” conduct is conduct that exhibits a culpable disregard of foreseeable consequences to others from the act or omission involved. The accused need not intentionally cause a resulting harm or know that his conduct is substantially certain to cause that result. The ultimate question is whether, under all the circumstances, the accused’s conduct was of that heedless nature that made it actually or imminently dangerous to the rights or safety of others.

So tell me, who was the motorcyclist endangering?

 

[Zap]

I was riding up in the mountains a few weeks ago and came up behind some guy in a pickup towing an RV, he had 4 cars stacked up behind him that he was already holding up and a couple more cars came up behind me while I was waiting. We passed at least 2 turnouts where he could have pulled over to let us pass him but he didn't.

Don't know about elsewhere, but I remember in California you can't have 5 or more stacked behind you - at that point you are supposed to move over.

 

[Numenorean]

So tell me, who was the motorcyclist endangering?

Any of the other people that could have been along side that road in numerous places I saw in the video. Pedestrians, etc. Other vehicles in the road. Though who cares if the motorcyclist plows into another car and kills some innocent person right? He has to have the freedom to speed wherever he wants right?

 

[Numenorean]

Don't know about elsewhere, but I remember in California you can't have 5 or more stacked behind you - at that point you are supposed to move over.

Key word supposed to. Nobody does and it's not like those roads are highly patrolled.