Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
You've actually illustrated my point. In Washington the constitution allows me to have firearms. The RCW sets the laws, and specifically allows me to carry concealed. The RCW also specifies where I can't carry (like courthouses, mental health facilities, and so on). There is NO ALLOWANCE in the RCW for schools to infringe on my rights. And yet, schools are allowed to. As public bodies they should not have the power to overrule the RCW, and yet they do.
Furthermore you never show why a school is a special entity entitled to special rules.
YOU can choose when to risk your life. I give you that. Now give the same consideration to me and allow me the right to decide when I can and cannot take action to protect my own life. Otherwise demonstrate to me that there is a compelling need to overrule that right.
How old are you?
35.
Let's just say I'm concerned with your ability to defend yourself without endangering others.
Nope. Not good enough by a LONG shot.
The federal government decided I was safe when I enlisted in the military and they granted my clearances and handed me a firearm. The state of Washington said I was safe when they issued me a concealed weapon permit. They said it again when they issued me my armed security license.
Absolutely every study has shown it by proving that persons with a concealed permit are 5 times less likely to commit a crime than the general populace, and even more unlikely to commit a crime than law enforcement. The state of Utah demonstrated it by allowing everyone to carry and suffering ABSOLUTELY NO negative consequences. Other colleges have done likewise.
In other words, absolutely every law, every agency, and every fact says I'm safe enough to carry almost everywhere. Why should a school, a lesser political body with no authority to refute the greater government, be allowed to tell me I can't when there is absolutely NO demonstrated need to restrict me thus?
Show me actual support that someone shouldn't be allowed to carry on school grounds. Prove to me that there is a magical barrier around a school which changes absolutely everything. Do it, or admit openly that there is NO support for your position, but you want it just because you want it...because right now that's all I'm seeing/hearing.