Okay so here we have another straw man. As far as I can tell, even if fskimo theoretically supports no limits on build up, there are geological limits. What he has actually said is that allowing another story or two would vastly help reduce housing prices. Try attacking that specific claim instead of the vincible "no limits" you are beating to death.
I am not saying what you say I am saying. You are right that I do know that some people like living in cities because there is far more to do. The reason I don't want to see more high density living is because I believe that the mentality creates them is the result of a delusional view of who a person is. In the West we are psychologically conditioned to think of ourselves as separate from the world around us, that we are some epiphenomenon taking place within our meat. In the East, there is a greater tradition of self identity, the product of enlightenment that is experienced internally as I though, that the self can't be separated from the context in which it exists. This means that people who know who they are in this way, who experience themselves as being the world are deeply reverent of the world as it is naturally. Their sense of self is to harmonize with the world as it is in nature rather than dominate it.I agree moonbeams position is also nimby but I don't think he is ignorant of the fact that many people in the world really do prefer living in cities whether are far more things to do, he just doesn't want to make it easier to build where he is so he can keep his lifestyle
This is an important psychological difference, one that more and more people today have no awareness of. Picture a tea ceremony in a Japanese garden as opposed to a hotdog on a Manhattan street.
This Western idea of the self, is what I call the ego, the bright light of self that dominates such that the our real self, the self we would be if that false self were to disappear enough so we could actually feel. The notion that we are what we believe ourselves to be rather that something much more miraculous when it comes to being experience is what I refer to as a dominate concealed prejudice that never gets examined because of the depth of the assumption it is the actual reality.
What this means to me, then, is that it is quite natural for people to seek exciting lives because what the deeper reality is is that we are actually emotionally dead, we can't experience the feeling of connection with the universe because of this profound and convincing sense of separation. To be separate, to identify as a separate ego, is why we feel need, why we seek, why we are angry, why we blame. If you could really hear what I am saying you would know your inner pain. But if only somehow you could hear and do something that would bring integration you would not further suffer. This I know to be true. I am sorry how terrible a person that makes me. And while you may think that is just my ego playing the domination game, that I am better than others, I disagree. I got free by a miracle I do not understand but which is there for seekers and likely far more intensely than it was for me. I was a slug that for an instant knew the world is my shell. I will never quite be homeless again. The only reason I have sought to preserve the small gift of a home I have may soon leave this world. This little dew drop world, it may be only a dew drop, and yet and yet.