I'm sure they have been doing it for years. Why else would they be video taping Green Bay and the Jets, two completely worthless endeavors, if they hadn't already become accustomed to doing this sort of thing?
But are you trying to say that other teams do not make notes of everything they see and hear the opposing team signal, play or call? The difference is the Pats have been using video, which is explicitly forbidden.
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There is NO evidence that any of this has been going on for years. If anything, most of the Pats postseason games would support that either the videotaping hasn't been going on, or that it has had NO benefit whatsoever. The pats have fallen flat in last half of a lot of big games (including all 3 superbowls). If these tapes were present, wouldn't you expect to see a performance gain?
Plus, how useful are 'decades old' tapes? Teams change signals, coordinators, defenses, etc. all the time. To say that this one tape presented a meaningful advantage is pure speculation, not fact.
You're trying to pass your opinion off as fact here. So here are my opinions. The Patriots actually got in touch with Jesus and had him magically guide the football through the uprights for all three of their superbowl victories. The Patriots also worked closely with Satan and Barry Bonds develop a comprehensive doping scheme for their entire team. Using connections to the Native Americans, they summoned wind spirits at the appropriate times to guide Adam Vinatieri's FG tries through the uprights. They employed an army of psychics to read the mind of Payton Manning when they absolutely annihilated the Colts in '04. OMG the Pats were behind September 11th too! They won the SB that year!
Bellichik is Osama!/1/?!/!!
As for Belichick's teflon reaction, remember the very well-publicized warning all teams got last September from the league. "Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game," said the warning from league vice president Ray Anderson. In the league's rule book, on page 105, the video ban is as clear as day. "No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game,'' the rules state.
You're an idiot if you think this is an isolated incident and you're a moron if you believe any of the drivel you typed.
Agreed! Garrett Jax......football now sucks.....im sticking to hockey. The ignorance of the fan base of the NFL is wide.
Sports are great. Media is not. I'm sick to death of listening to people talk to me about what goes on off the field. I dont want to hear it, I just want to watch football. I could care less about the personal lives of the players, just like the people here at my work could care less about my personal life. I'm interested in how they do their job.
I dislike a lot of the crap going on in the NFL, but it's still the best sport around, to play or to watch.
Also, I forgot to mention Gretzky's gambling scandal.
Point being is that every league/organization has it's bad apples and usually it is not representative of the whole.
Point being is that every league/organization has it's bad apples and usually it is not representative of the whole.
While I agree with you in football, I believe the problem is more a reflection of American society and therefore present in baseball, basketball and hockey.
If this weren't a problem with society than most people would be as outraged as you and me with the Pats cheating. Instead, the vast majority of people seem to be making excuses for them
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How am I an idiot? Because I see an allegation proved true in one incident and I don't automatically assume that it applies to every other incident? Like I said, find me one shred of evidence that any of this occurred in 2001, 2003, 2004. You can't. You found something that happened in 2007. In one game. That's your evidence. That's the evidence we all have.
You're deluding yourself if you believe that. Try getting drunk, driving home and getting in a car accident. Even if this doesn't affect your performance at work, your employers would still very much care since it is a reflection of your moral makeup and ethics.
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Were you outraged at the Broncos? Were you outraged every time a player has been caught using a banned substance? Were you outraged when teams were caught pumping crowd noise towards the field?
No. I bet you weren't. I bet the Broncos weren't even on your radar. When a bigtime player, for any team, serves a suspension, where is the outrage then? Why is nobody going batshit over the fact that Merriman was suspended four games for using a banned substance the same year he was voted to the Pro Bowl? The same year he changed the outcome of games with a single play.
edit: why aren't you raising hell about Harrison? That guy WAS the middle of the Pats defense. He was caught using a banned substance, he's serving a four game suspension. He's made plays that, singlehandedly, have turned games.
My point is, 'cheating' or 'league violations' or whatever you want to call it happen ALL the time. Yes, the videotaping was a bit ridiculous. Yes, it's cheating. Yes, was punished appropriately. But teams are still cheating, players are still cheating. Every single Sunday players take the field who have given themselves an unnatural / unfair advantage over their opponents.
I agree with you about the Merriroid incident, I still don't understand why he was welcomed back with open arms after his suspension. Why wasn't he harrassed like McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, etc? But you should really stick to proven incidents like that one to make your arguments.
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