You know who they are.
The opposite is true also - nobody has shown any technical details on why Zen will be any good. Why isn't AMD releasing any information?
IF Zen is all that why isn't AMD punching hard to Osborne Effect Intel? Why didn't they knock one out of the park at ISSC?
So that leaves us with recent history. Barcelona will be 40% faster than Cloverton. Bulldozer IPC increases. Fury is an overclockers dream.
Then why dont you disprove what i have linked to you now 3 times.
I have said why i think Zen will be good, the removal of verified bottlenecks that existed in the fundamental design of CON cores, L1 cache and policy, the WCC, L2 size and latency, execution resources, long pipeline no op cache, removal of shared prefetech/predictors, shared L1i, hopefully far more associative L1i etc.
Look at Dresden boys diagram and the split of FPU and ALU into what looks like separate register files ( like jaguar) which means having 4 ALU's isn't going to require a really high amount of ports into a shared PRF for the entire core. look at what we know about the cache system, L1 size and latency , l2 size , l3 is locality aware.
also you know there are patches with Zen pipeline configurations and instruction latencies so why dont you pull out all the bad stuff about Zen from their, there is plenty of detail to look at.
There is lots of info coming out, Your just being willfully ignorant.
AMD isn't going to present to early, remember bulldozer, bobcat and jaguar were all done at Hotchips which is in AUG which aligns far more to Zens release then a conference in march...........