CZroe
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it looks like it could be fun
No. It. Doesn't.
Don't let the nostalgia and cool editing blind you. That's Adam Sandler-level dumb in the trailer.
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it looks like it could be fun
You are wrong about the first 15 seconds. The reason? They start off with '30 years ago 4 men saved New York'
It doesn't look terrible, but..
That opening with "four scientists." Really? Only one of the original Ghostbusters was something of an actual scientist and engineer. This trailer seems to make all three of the original members into science/engineering geniuses. And the original add-on, Winston, was a working class everyman stiff who just wanted a job. Not someone loaded with street smarts who is super enthusiastic to help.
Seems like they really boosted everyone's capabilities and status and that's a shame because part of the charm and fun of the original Ghostbusters was that it was made up of largely flawed eccentrics who stumbled into being right about the paranormal (with Venkman even using it mainly as a con) and who are in over their heads but end up being the heroes anyway.
This is probably going to end up like Star Wars where a bunch of people say that these characters are too capable/accomplished and end up getting misogynists for it.
I'd say if they're acknowledging the original in the film, the enthusiasm would be acceptable, since they know it isn't just a con like Venkman was using it originally. That is, being 10 and seeing ghostbusters and going "OMFG I want to be one of them!"
It could work, but I just see them rehashing too much of the original instead of letting it stand on its own.
Is it really Sony's fault that shitty remakes work? What's the incentive to do good movies when we're in the information age, where 100's of reviews are a single click away, where crappy movies can instantly be recognized and avoided and where they become box office hits anyway? The last Transformers movie was utter shit, everyone knew it was utter shit and the reviews panned it as not even being suitable for retarded children and it still did a fucking billion dollars worldwide. This movie is going to suck and it's going to get panned and it's going to do at least $250 million domestic and $500 million worldwide on name recognition alone and a sequel will go into production a week after it opens at #1. It doesn't have to be good. Hell, why waste the time and energy going for quality when you can take a shit on a franchise, wrap it up, throw it at everyone and make a fortune anyway?
It doesn't look terrible, but..
That opening with "four scientists." Really? Only one of the original Ghostbusters was something of an actual scientist and engineer. This trailer seems to make all three of the original members into science/engineering geniuses. And the original add-on, Winston, was a working class everyman stiff who just wanted a job. Not someone loaded with street smarts who is super enthusiastic to help.
Seems like they really boosted everyone's capabilities and status and that's a shame because part of the charm and fun of the original Ghostbusters was that it was made up of largely flawed eccentrics who stumbled into being right about the paranormal (with Venkman even using it mainly as a con) and who are in over their heads but end up being the heroes anyway.
This is probably going to end up like Star Wars where a bunch of people say that these characters are too capable/accomplished and end up getting misogynists for it.
Winston definitely wasn't though, and it probably would have been funnier if they said: "Three scientists... And one guy who just needed a steady paycheck"
With a reaction to a trailer that bad, I don't see how it will get good box office opening numbers. Execs don't care what the metacritic rating is, but they do care about whether it makes its investment back. With $154m spent and a terrible trailer that more people hated than not, its going to be difficult to break even, let alone make a profit.
Really? Only one of the original Ghostbusters was something of an actual scientist and engineer.
You don't understand. You see, the actors wanted to reprise their roles and wrote a real sequel years ago but Sony shot it down. After they gave up and lent their voice/screenplay to a video game instead and some untimely deaths ruined the chances for a movie, Sony suddenly changed their mind and gives us this gimmicky crap. They waited until it was guaranteed sh*t to green light another sequel.
Screw you, Sony.
Sony shot it down because the script sucked...
Murray appeared on Late Show with David Letterman and talked about his potential return to Ghostbusters III, stating "I'd do it only if my character was killed off in the first reel."
...and they're just suddenly SO much more discriminating with this script. Do you see why that is upsetting?!
As for Bill Murray being unwilling: he voiced his lines in the game and...
I'm OK with that.
No, you don't understand the facts or the economics. "The actors" didn't want to reprise their roles, Ramis and Ackroyd wanted to reprise their roles. Murray wanted no part of it and Sony shot it down because the script sucked. They might have gone ahead with the original cast and a weak script and they might have gone ahead without Murray if the script was great, but Sony didn't want to put out something crappy as long as there was still a chance to get Murray involved and get the script fixed. They never got either aspect locked down and the chance to get a good picture with the original people was dead. Then and only then did Sony decide to move in a new direction. The simple fact of modern Hollywood is that name recognition counts a hell of a lot more than movie quality. As long as the Ghostbusters name still existed and as long as it could be attached to a project for an instant blockbuster a new project was going to happen eventually. That was a guarantee. There was more than a decade spent trying to put together a good Ghostbusters project and when that couldn't happen Sony went ahead and put together something shitty to cash in on the name. They're running a business, they could do a crappy new Ghostbusters and make hundreds of millions of dollars or they could not do a Ghostbusters project and not make hundreds of millions of dollars. What the hell choice do you think they'd make?
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There's no way they could put that in a trailer now. Why? Because everyone would read that and say, "Oh, so the black man can't hold a job, huh!?"
All 3 of the original guys were scientists working for the school. Don't you remember Peter saying "back off man, I'm a scientist" to the guy he kept shocking in his first scene?