Neil deGrasse Tyson reboots Carl Sagan's "Cosmos"

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So far I'm liking it. The only thing new to me is a bit of history. But even history is important for those that don't learn from historical mistakes are doomed to repeat them.
 

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The Bruno part bothered me, not because of what it said about the Inquisition, no matter how innacurate as posted above. It's generally accepted as a black period for the Catholic church.

My issue was the little blurb about Bruno having absolutely no evidence of his assertions. It wasn't science. Bruno had a theological fight with the church and lost. To put him up as a champion of science just seems wrong, it was more like a chimpanzee throwing shit at a wall and some of it sticking. Real science requires observation and evidence.

Way to totally miss the point. The man was BURNED TO DEATH for having ideas that differed from the norm. And who played the role of judge jury and executioner? Who had the power to torture people to death? The immoral thought police who think they are the guardians of morality even to this day, through self deception and delusion.
 

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having watched segan and cosmos many times and still have all of it on VHS tape, this remake is kinda boring.
 

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didn't hold my attention enough to keep me awake. and in an episode about evolution, why did they decide to cgi fly around some neptune moon or wherever they went towards the end? My wife even said they jump around too much.

To show that if life does exist on other planets it likely won't be like anything we know of(carbon based and dependent on water). I also took it as a point that there could be life on a mood in our own solar system and we have no way of knowing yet.
 

Pheran

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I really liked episode 2, I thought they knocked it out of the park, aside from the abrupt ending noted by Ichinisan. The coverage of evolution was wonderfully done, and sorely needed in our backwards country.
 

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I really liked episode 2, I thought they knocked it out of the park, aside from the abrupt ending noted by Ichinisan. The coverage of evolution was wonderfully done, and sorely needed in our backwards country.

This. Although I was kinda expecting the sudden ending because I glanced at the clock right before the end and was like well no time for a wrapup!
 

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Just watched the second episode. Much happier with how it went, very focused and the effects / graphics served the subject. It'd be nice if the episodes were a bit longer, as I still would like more depth, but overall was happy with this one.
 

Pheran

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whats the obsession over Titan? first Eureka now Cosmos. ;-)

I was also surprised at the choice of Titan, I was expecting him to talk about Europa instead. But I can understand that the Titan landscape is easier to relate to than an underground sea.
 

Fritzo

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titan holds huge promise for colonization with all the hydrocarbons on the moon

It's also an interesting place because it might have been a habitable planet if it were closer to the sun. If you wore a suit with wings, you'd also be able to flap your arms and fly there :)

Geewhizz-batman.jpg
 

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"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it."
- Neil deGrasse Tyson
 

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Fritzo

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Having a flash-back to being told I was rude for correcting my high school history teacher after he called him Cope-er-nick-us".
 

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It's also an interesting place because it might have been a habitable planet if it were closer to the sun. If you wore a suit with wings, you'd also be able to flap your arms and fly there :)

Geewhizz-batman.jpg

Only there's no significant water or oxygen, so...no...not really. It's possible that Titan might support [simple] life, but when people say 'habitable' I kinda assume they mean 'by humans.'

Why people think an abundance of liquid methane (because it's cold as fuck) and a nitrogen atmosphere somehow equals 'almost Earth!'...no clue how that came about. It's like saying 'This Hot Wheels covered in 3000lbs of garbage is practically the same thing as the car I drive to work! You know, because wheels...and metal, and stuff!'

edit: Really, calling Europa 'habitable' is less of a reach.
 
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Fritzo

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Only there's no significant water or oxygen, so...no...not really. It's possible that Titan might support [simple] life, but when people say 'habitable' I kinda assume they mean 'by humans.'

Why people think an abundance of liquid methane (because it's cold as fuck) and a nitrogen atmosphere somehow equals 'almost Earth!'...no clue how that came about. It's like saying 'This Hot Wheels covered in 3000lbs of garbage is practically the same thing as the car I drive to work! You know, because wheels...and metal, and stuff!'

edit: Really, calling Europa 'habitable' is less of a reach.

Titan resembles primordial Earth. Given 4 billion years in a warmer orbit, it could have very well turned out like Earth.
 

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Way to totally miss the point. The man was BURNED TO DEATH for having ideas that differed from the norm. And who played the role of judge jury and executioner? Who had the power to torture people to death? The immoral thought police who think they are the guardians of morality even to this day, through self deception and delusion.



He had a theological fight that resulted in his death and it had nothing to do with science. Just like thousands, if not millions, of other people that have been put to death for theological views differing from the majority.

It goes on even to this day. That however has nothing to do with science. Hell, Copernicus was brought before the Pope and a few Cardinals to great effect to where they pushed him to publish his heliocentric model. Yet I'm now to believe that a man pushing ideas already well known to the European world and the Church of Rome was put to death simply for retelling those known beliefs? You can't possibly be that simple.

Try reading up on him some more instead of being so close minded and simplistic. Plenty of people have read up on Bruno following the show and we've moved on to the next episode. :awe:
 

gypsyman

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So if we are inside one of the spiral arms of the Milky Way, where do these pictures showing the entire galaxy as if we are light years away from it come from?
 

gypsyman

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No troll, really. I do not understand it. I know there are smart folks here. Just want an explanation. I watched episode one and loved it.