Neil deGrasse Tyson reboots Carl Sagan's "Cosmos"

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ThinClient

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What are they supposed to say? "Forsooth! Thou shalt elocute thy theory or ceaseth to speak, knave!"

Not sure making it sound like Shakespeare in the park would be an improvement. You generally should try to communicate difficult concepts using the simplest language possible.

Right, and you also sometimes need to pander to a dumber audience and sometimes you just need to throw some comedy into it.

I lol'd at that line.

People need to remove the stick from their asses.
 

jhansman

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You know, I find that I don't really like the guy that much. He strikes me as kinda douchey. :\

Arrogant is the word I would use. Heard him on an interview and he just put me off with his "Well, of course it obvious..." attitude. I'm all for the inquiring mind, but this guy is just overbearing.
 

gorcorps

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What are they supposed to say? "Forsooth! Thou shalt elocute thy theory or ceaseth to speak, knave!"

Not sure making it sound like Shakespeare in the park would be an improvement. You generally should try to communicate difficult concepts using the simplest language possible.

A simple "prove it" would have made perfect sense, and wouldn't have been so cringe inducing. Most of time it's fine, but that line was bad.
 

zinfamous

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A simple "prove it" would have made perfect sense, and wouldn't have been so cringe inducing. Most of time it's fine, but that line was bad.

agree. "put up or shut up" was really jarring. There is no rational reason to use that line, intended audience or otherwise.
 

MongGrel

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I haven't even watched the last couple, but I'm loving the reaction it has provoked.
 

dainthomas

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Arrogant is the word I would use. Heard him on an interview and he just put me off with his "Well, of course it obvious..." attitude. I'm all for the inquiring mind, but this guy is just overbearing.

I've listened to his podcast and he doesn't come across that way at all. It could be the person interviewing him was an idiot.
 

Pheran

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Arrogant is the word I would use. Heard him on an interview and he just put me off with his "Well, of course it obvious..." attitude. I'm all for the inquiring mind, but this guy is just overbearing.

I don't agree with this either. If you can link me to something where you feel he exhibits this attitude, I will watch it.
 

Thebobo

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I can just imagine the creationist cringing every time this comes on and that makes me happy.

I am a shallow man
 

Franz316

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I'm enjoying the series quite a bit. I wasn't alive during the original but have listened to a lot of Sagan's work. deGrasse isn't as poetic as Sagan but he makes up for it with his no nonsense, direct approach, while still creating inspiring shows. I don't know how anyone can not be utterly amazed at the timescales, distances, and outright complexity found in the universe.

I'd imagine the feeling of awesomeness that an Atheist feels when viewing the cosmos and the connectedness everything is much the same a religious person feels at church. The difference of course is the source of that feeling. One is substantial, and the other is all imagined.

My personal opinion of religious people is: if it gives you peace of mind and keeps you from going postal, then go for it. Just try keep it to yourself.
 

moonbogg

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I love this show and Tyson kicks ass. I am constantly thinking, "oh, I bet that offended some idiots in the audience". There is way too much truth in this show for your standard religitard.
 

moonbogg

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... I don't know how anyone can not be utterly amazed at the timescales, distances, and outright complexity found in the universe.

I think the same thing when watching the show. It makes me sad that as I am watching it, millions of Americans are watching at the same time, but instead of feeling inspired and amazed they are thinking to themselves, "wow, what a load of crap. That's not how it happened at all". They think its all lies and bullshit and are probably mocking and making fun of Tyson in their heads as they watch. I can just hear them, "that's not true, that's not true, that's not true".
 

Franz316

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I think the same thing when watching the show. It makes me sad that as I am watching it, millions of Americans are watching at the same time, but instead of feeling inspired and amazed they are thinking to themselves, "wow, what a load of crap. That's not how it happened at all". They think its all lies and bullshit and are probably mocking and making fun of Tyson in their heads as they watch. I can just hear them, "that's not true, that's not true, that's not true".

I agree, there have been many psychological studies where when shown clear evidence towards the truth, instead of inspiring change or curiosity, it actually reinforces the original belief the person held. The main problem with religion is that it prides itself on never changing, that is a pretty blatant shortcoming.
 

disappoint

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God hates religiotards because he taught atheists everything, and taught rageligiotards nothing.

Religious nutter: Head asplodes.
 

disappoint

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My personal opinion of religious people is: if it gives you peace of mind and keeps you from going postal, then go for it. Just try keep it to yourself.

My personal opinion of religious people is: *link to ancient long since dehydrated raptor diarrhea redacted*
 

Northern Lawn

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Did anyone see Tyson on the Joe Rogan Podcast? Man, he made rogan look like an imbecile especially when they were talking about moon landing hoaxes. Joe believes it's a hoax but won't admit it and won't let it go either.
 

gorcorps

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lol, I just got the giggles

NDT just said "Some people like it small, and that's fine... but I like it big" with a big ass grin on his face and I couldn't help myself
 

Balt

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lol, I just got the giggles

NDT just said "Some people like it small, and that's fine... but I like it big" with a big ass grin on his face and I couldn't help myself

Glad I'm not the only one who chuckled at that.

A nice ending to the series or the season, whichever it is.
 

Jeff7

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lol, I just got the giggles

NDT just said "Some people like it small, and that's fine... but I like it big" with a big ass grin on his face and I couldn't help myself
"37 takes. Will you please stop smiling when you say that??! Alright, let's try this again."
 

brandonb

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God hates religiotards because he taught atheists everything, and taught rageligiotards nothing.

Religious nutter: Head asplodes.

As a religious person. I follow this thread just to see comments like this.

They make my day.
 

moonbogg

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I got the last few recorded and recently watched the one where they said Gilgamesh had the flood story first. I smiled with glee as I knew this would piss off countless idiots.
 

hans030390

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Overall, I thought it was a good series/season (more would be nice). However, I sometimes felt the episodes to be a bit disjointed and covered too many topics that should have been better organized throughout the episodes. Some episodes were right on point, but others lacked a sort of structure and flow to them and, in my opinion, tended to soften some otherwise extremely interesting teachings. Perhaps some may have found the show and the topics presented to be too hard to follow at times because of this, but I'm not sure.

I also wish the show was a touch more technical in combination with the above. I don't think some of the topics were covered extensively enough to really have that "wow" factor behind them or make total sense, as if it were almost too simplified. Occasionally it would trend the opposite of this as well. And, while I can appreciate some of the jabs made at the religious or anti-science folk, I also thought the show was often a bit too aggressive in this regard. It detracted from the educational and inspiring elements. I also don't think this is the best way to deal with folks if you're trying to convince them of your viewpoint. That said, I'd much prefer a more aggressive approach (often deserved) than too soft of an approach, especially regarding topics that involve the well-being of all life on Earth (i.e. climate change and potential impact over hundreds of years).