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Need suggestions on a 19" LCD monitor.

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I was thinking of this Planar it has the exact same specs as the VP930b. I wonder if it has the same panel? how would I go about finding that out? Planar has a 3 year advance replacement warranty on it that has my interest.
 
Well, is the VP930b the best option for gaming? I'm looking for a nice, affordable gaming LCD. That means that response is most important.

Norm
 
Originally posted by: Trucker61
I was thinking of this Planar it has the exact same specs as the VP930b. I wonder if it has the same panel? how would I go about finding that out? Planar has a 3 year advance replacement warranty on it that has my interest.
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It probably is, but it's not listed on www.flatpanels.dk 's panel search yet.
 
Originally posted by: cevilgenius
Well, is the VP930b the best option for gaming? I'm looking for a nice, affordable gaming LCD. That means that response is most important.

Norm
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If you want the fastest period, then you'll want one with the AUO M190EN04 V5 8ms. panel and Overdrive (VX922 and VX924 or BenQ FP91V have it).

But I still am not sure about this. Look at this graph. The S-PVA VP191b (now VP930b) easily beats the "4ms TN" for some reason. It's hard to tell if this is an older version of that LCD though (I'm actually pretty sure it is), because stupid ViewSonic recycles the names. BeHardware seems to think the AUO is the fastest though and claims it's as fast as a CRT at moving text (but not moving graphics). Fellow forum member BenSkywalker said their testing method was flawed though.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/20050602/viewsonic-05.html

http://www.behardware.com/articles/594-...ng-syncmaster-770p-pva-6ms-1500-1.html

I still think you'd be better off getting an S-PVA with all-around better specs. I think you will hardly notice a difference and come out with better colors while you're at it. It's your choice though, and I haven't had personal experience with either of those monitors.

Try it out in the store. Move the mouse around and move a web page up and down at a medium speed. It will give you the best idea.
 
Originally posted by: cevilgenius
Well, is the VP930b the best option for gaming? I'm looking for a nice, affordable gaming LCD. That means that response is most important.

Norm
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IMO it will be hard to beat. Very sharp and clear, no ghosting or motion blur. The only thing that keeps me from buying another is the history of backlight bleeding. I was not the only one to have this problem with this panel. When I talked with Viewsonic about it they said this is acceptable / normal. (but they still issued me a return case number for Newegg) Well not to me, when I spend that much money on an item I expect perfection.
 
Hmm, any ideas on the Samsung 913T? I checked it out online and cannot see anything bad about it, specs are pretty close to the VP930B.
 
Originally posted by: Lothar1974
Hmm, any ideas on the Samsung 913T? I checked it out online and cannot see anything bad about it, specs are pretty close to the VP930B.
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Don't know. Flatpanels.dk says PVA panel but prad.de says TN. I think it's TN because of the 160/160 angle vs the 178/178 on most PVAs plus it says 16.2m vs. 16.7m and Samsung is consistent in the matter of naming their TNs by 16.2 and their PVAs 16.7.
 
The vp930b is far from the best 19" for gaming. Its 8ms time is only white-black-white but grey to grey suffers a horrible 20ms response time. Altogether i would say it performs slightly worse than a 16ms tn-panel, but its colors are extremely accurate. If you a heavy gamer i would recommend a quality 8ms or less TN. I would still recommend the 940b to you. Oh and civil dont blow your money on the vx922 over the vx924, 4ms ghosting is undetectible to any eye.
 
Originally posted by: Nextman916
The vp930b is far from the best 19" for gaming. Its 8ms time is only white-black-white but grey to grey suffers a horrible 20ms response time. Altogether i would say it performs slightly worse than a 16ms tn-panel, but its colors are extremely accurate. If you a heavy gamer i would recommend a quality 8ms or less TN. I would still recommend the 940b to you. Oh and civil dont blow your money on the vx922 over the vx924, 4ms ghosting is undetectible to any eye.
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I have no idea why they called it 20 ms. Maybe they are starting to actually give real ratings here (gasp? hell froze?), but it consistently stays under 17 ms.

The last VX924 Tom's reviews turned out horrible results, definitely not what I'd expect from a fast TN panel like that so I don't know how much faith to put in to Tom's anymore, but here is the response graph for what it's worth:

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/displa...itor-03.html#viewsonic_vp930_no_faster

I do agree you'll hardly notice a difference between REAL 8ms. and REAL 4ms. Though, no panels hit a REAL 4ms. yet I'm pretty sure.

I still think the best thing to do is scroll a webpage like Anandtech and see how much it ghosts compared to the other LCD. I'm sure you can find all these LCDs on display in a store somewhere, even if one at a different store (doesn't matter). The web site scrolling is pretty much a worst case scenario for these monitors. My LCD isn't so pretty scrolling the AT home page, but for gaming on the other hand it is perfectly acceptable. So response time can be overrated, no pun intended.
 
Well, for me I think I'll just keep my open for a VP930B deal. And I kind of liked the VX924 look too 😛.

Norm
 
Originally posted by: Nextman916
Originally posted by: Nextman916
Hey guys look at this monitor i found at newegg- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116373 . VA1912wb its a widescreen 19" which is uncommon it produces a native of 1440x900, interesting.
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Edit: i just unlocked my monitors resolutions that aresnt supported however it doesnt have the option to display 1440x900, which kinda sucks.....could i custom create one?
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If you have an LCD you can only go smaller than native (same with a CRT too actually).
 
Is this monitor any good? I imagine you get what you pay for but you never know. Seems to have good reviews on Newegg's site.
 
I wouldn't trust newegg's reviews, and I wouldn't get that monitor, personally.

I think I am going to wait another year or so.

Imagine the LCD prices when OLED comes out! 🙂
 
Hell, prices are low as they are now... I was looking through old ads, 15" LCDs going for 300.

Norm
 
That aopen lcd looks very ver cheaply made. I personally could not live staring at that ugly frame even if the quality was superb.
 
I finally decided to get one. I'm going to go with th VP930B. Compusa has them for around $480. Only problem is it's an online order only. At least they have the 30 no questions asked return policy now!
 
If you're going to buy it online from Compusa, why not get it at Newegg online for cheaper?

Norm
 
Originally posted by: cevilgenius
If you're going to buy it online from Compusa, why not get it at Newegg online for cheaper?

Norm
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If you are willing to risk the amount of cash for return shipping then go for it. I returned my VP930b and was refunded the 419 that I paid for it but Newegg has yet to refund me the 25 they said they would credit me for the return shipping. I live in Pa. and it cost me 42.60 USPS priority with 450 insurance. (Fed Ex ground will not honor ins. claims on an LCD)

I am a bit miffed at NE right now, they are ignoring my E mail asking about the shipping refund. I will give them till tuesday to respond and then call.

Anyway, I have decided to get this Samsung 970P or this Samsung 193+ if I decide that I cannot live with the white bezel. Hopefully these panels will not have the backlight bleeding the 930b had.

I wish you luck with your monitor, it was a very sweet performer despite the backlight issue.
 
Are the native resolutions ever any higher in the 19-20" range? I need 1920x1080 res for editin HDV video which I would like to thru my evga 7800GT in a dual monitor setup. My current monitor is a Viewsonic VX2000 which only does the usual 1600x1200.
Anysmall widescreen format monitor that anyone knows of that have HD native resolution?
 
Originally posted by: jefbak
Any small widescreen format monitor that anyone knows of that have HD native resolution?
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They don't exist. I don't know the technical reasons, but it's much more difficult to make a smaller monitor with a higher resolution.
 
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: jefbak
Any small widescreen format monitor that anyone knows of that have HD native resolution?
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They don't exist. I don't know the technical reasons, but it's much more difficult to make a smaller monitor with a higher resolution.
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Probably because you have to make smaller pixels?

Norm
 
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: jefbak
Any small widescreen format monitor that anyone knows of that have HD native resolution?
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They don't exist. I don't know the technical reasons, but it's much more difficult to make a smaller monitor with a higher resolution.
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Not really...for desktop LCDs it is done for readability purposes. I struggle to see 1280x1024 on my 17" LCD from more than a foot away.

There are 15.4" notebook-grade panels with 1920x1200 (16:10) resolution. I'm sure they could easily do 16:9. If you want 16:9 LCD panels, look at LCD TVs.
 
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