NC GOP official fired after comments made about Voter ID on The Daily Show last night

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cubby1223

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If this is a voter suppression law, fine, I will oppose it.

But none of you can convince me nor anyone else it is a voter suppression law by virtue of a very highly edited comedy skit. That is the point. And anyone who tries to use this video interview to prove a point deserves to be disregarded.

I don't even live in North Carolina so I don't even have any real grounds to support or oppose the law. We have our own set of problems here in Illinois that the state government never does anything about, and none of you could care less. So how does it work? Are any of you genuinely interested in anything beyond mockery of others? Anyone?
 
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ivwshane

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If this is a voter suppression law, fine, I will oppose it.

But none of you can convince me nor anyone else it is a voter suppression law by virtue of a very highly edited comedy skit. That is the point. And anyone who tries to use this video interview to prove a point deserves to be disregarded.

I don't even live in North Carolina so I don't even have any real grounds to support or oppose the law. We have our own set of problems here in Illinois that the state government never does anything about, and none of you could care less. So how does it work? Are any of you genuinely interested in anything beyond mockery of others? Anyone?

So when GOP people who hold a position in government and tell you point blank that that law is to discriminate against democrats and to give their republican candidates a better chance to win an election, their is no convincing you?

Seems reasonable /s
 

ivwshane

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I don't even live in North Carolina so I don't even have any real grounds to support or oppose the law. We have our own set of problems here in Illinois that the state government never does anything about, and none of you could care less. So how does it work? Are any of you genuinely interested in anything beyond mockery of others? Anyone?

If democrats tried this same shit I'd be calling for their heads! In fact, in California where I am from, not only did I vote for a law that required a bi partisan board (including independents) to handle redistricting (something my left leaning state could have easily abused to keep dems in power) but so did a majority of its residents.

Descrimnation of any kind, is flat out wrong and is simply not the America we have grown up to be. Anyone who thinks otherwise and who turns a blind eye or even condones such actions is a despicable American.
 

cubby1223

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So when GOP people who hold a position in government and tell you point blank that that law is to discriminate against democrats and to give their republican candidates a better chance to win an election, their is no convincing you?

Seems reasonable /s

Show me the raw uncut video of the question being asked and the response given.

We have here:
(1) highly edited video by a comedian who purposefully wants to portray him in the most negative and comedic way possible
(2) a guy who was already not liked by and was kicked off of the county G.O.P. committee prior to the interview for "party disloyalty"

You tell me what do you see here that substantiates your claim that this Daily Show interview represents the intent of the other major backers of the voter i.d. law?
 
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michal1980

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If democrats tried this same shit I'd be calling for their heads! In fact, in California where I am from, not only did I vote for a law that required a bi partisan board (including independents) to handle redistricting (something my left leaning state could have easily abused to keep dems in power) but so did a majority of its residents.

Descrimnation of any kind, is flat out wrong and is simply not the America we have grown up to be. Anyone who thinks otherwise and who turns a blind eye or even condones such actions is a despicable American.

LOL. you are stupid.


Your bi-partisan board was hijacked by the left.

http://www.propublica.org/article/how-democrats-fooled-californias-redistricting-commission


Voter id doesn't discriminate. Only stupid people think that.
 

michal1980

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Lol! Stupid idiot posts something from 2011 when the law I was talking about was passed in 2012!

God you are such a moron!

link to law?

The redistricting law I found was passed in 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Citizens_Redistricting_Commission

Did you idiots have to vote for something similar twice in 2 years?

I googled. found nothing about new redistricting laws in 2012 in CA. Only that the new rigged districts went into effect in 2012, and democrats picked up a few more seats
 
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cubby1223

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If democrats tried this same shit I'd be calling for their heads! In fact, in California where I am from, not only did I vote for a law that required a bi partisan board (including independents) to handle redistricting (something my left leaning state could have easily abused to keep dems in power) but so did a majority of its residents.

Descrimnation of any kind, is flat out wrong and is simply not the America we have grown up to be. Anyone who thinks otherwise and who turns a blind eye or even condones such actions is a despicable American.

Go write a post denouncing the horrors going in Syria. I want your ego to be consistent.

I'm glad you can continue using your redistricting example, is that your best example of how fair you are in real life? Dems in Illinois gerry-mandered the districts to their favor, they didn't leave it up to a vote.


Another question for you, oh egotistical one: which issue ranks higher on your outrage scale, this nobody who did a Daily Show interview? Or problems that are immediate to people in need in Illinois?

Go play politics some more, it's what you're best at. Leave the actual running of life to the people who care.
 

AViking

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Let me help you. First off people don't understand rape statistics so here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372

Second you are surely going to quote an article such as this one: http://topconservativenews.com/2013...300-swedish-children-in-seven-months-of-2013/

HOLY SHIT MUSLIMS RAPES 300 SWEDISH CHILDREN IN SEVEN MONTHS OF 2013?!

Only one problem. A pretty big problem. The article doesn't mention Muslims. A second problem is that it doesn't mention 300 children.

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=103&artikel=5612131

I can read Swedish. You can't. So you just blindly assume that the title is reality. It's a misleading propaganda piece. Use Google translate and you'll see.
 

cubby1223

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So when GOP people who hold a position in government

What position in government does this guy hold? Are you saying political party committees are government positions? I need to know. I've learned from past experience you have no problems with making up anything that is necessary to fill in the gaps and "win" the argument, which begs the question, which pieces of your posts are pure fabrications this time around?

You oppose discrimination. Wow, you're really putting yourself out there on this controversial topic...
 
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Jhhnn

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LOL. you are stupid.


Your bi-partisan board was hijacked by the left.

http://www.propublica.org/article/how-democrats-fooled-californias-redistricting-commission


Voter id doesn't discriminate. Only stupid people think that.

Despite your claims, the results in California do not support your assertions, nor those of the authors in your link-

Surprisingly absent from the guilty list is California, where 62 percent of the two-party vote went to Democrats and the average mock delegation of 38 Democrats and 15 Republicans exactly matched the newly elected delegation. Notably, California voters took redistricting out of legislators’ hands by creating the California Citizens Redistricting Commission.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/o...t-gerrymander-of-2012.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&

Results matter. Despite a lot of maneuvering by all parties, the results in California are reasonable. That's not true in NC, at all.
 

dank69

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ID is racist, dude. Probably sexist, too.

I will never understand why there needs to be drives and efforts for voter registration. People know they need to register to vote. If they don't, they're F'ing stupid. What people are, is lazy. If someone is too lazy to register to vote, then really it's too F'ing bad if they can't vote because they didn't bother to register.

It is mind boggling how much stupid and/or lazy people are catered to, and how much they're used as an excuse.

EDIT: About the only people I'd make exception for is the ill and old. So have the hospital and homes send something out. The End.

I don't understand why people fight against voter ID.

You need an ID to check out at the grocery stand with a CC, to buy alcohol, to get a job...but to choose the people who run the country, it's suddenly a hardship?
Big government conservatives.
 

dank69

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Texas is making it easy for people to acquire ID's.

http://www.sos.state.tx.us/about/newsreleases/2013/092413.shtml

How many Democrat voters don't have ID?

LOL. you are stupid.


Your bi-partisan board was hijacked by the left.

http://www.propublica.org/article/how-democrats-fooled-californias-redistricting-commission


Voter id doesn't discriminate. Only stupid people think that.
Big government conservatives.
 

michal1980

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Despite your claims, the results in California do not support your assertions, nor those of the authors in your link-



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/o...t-gerrymander-of-2012.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&

Results matter. Despite a lot of maneuvering by all parties, the results in California are reasonable. That's not true in NC, at all.

Nothing you posted refutes the fact that democrat's are trying to gerrymander the districts in CA. Just because this time it didn't skew the results, doesn't mean that over time they wont.

The truth is that ivwshane outrage is fake. His own party in his own state passed is using the system to skew results. Now its just under the cover of 'non-partisan'
 

FerrelGeek

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Some stores require ID along with your credit card when making purchases. Many liquor stores have a 'card everyone' policy. I've had to show my ID when picking up my prescriptions. The dems howl and yowl over people needing IDs. If the state provides them free, under proper financial circumstances, I don't see any reason why IDs shouldn't be needed to vote. Other countries require this. It's not really that hard, folks.

Beats me. Provided free and only needed every 4 years, or when one moves out of district, there are about zero reasons for us to not have National ID, given the problems it solves...or, could solve.

Basically those opposed on the left are scared that somehow people won't be able to obtain the free ID and thus won't be able to vote*. Insanity, but, that's their arguement.

*: And there might be some exceedingly small number of legal voters that couldn't, but really, they should already have taken care of that before National ID would roll out anyways, so still it'd be their fault for failing to get their paperwork straightened out.

Racism not found.

Chuck
 

thraashman

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Some stores require ID along with your credit card when making purchases. Many liquor stores have a 'card everyone' policy. I've had to show my ID when picking up my prescriptions. The dems howl and yowl over people needing IDs. If the state provides them free, under proper financial circumstances, I don't see any reason why IDs shouldn't be needed to vote. Other countries require this. It's not really that hard, folks.

Of course, because all those are constitutionally guaranteed rights. Oh, wait, no, that's just a stupid argument. Do you think that a person open carrying should be allowed to be stopped and forced to show ID by any and every cop that comes along? If that person doesn't or is unable to show ID or simply doesn't show the right form of ID to the officers liking should that person open carrying have their second amendment rights removed?
 

thraashman

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Voter ID seems to limit people who would vote democrat's ability to vote. I get it. No more cheating in elections. Bloody hell! It would be a travesty of justice to try and keep the elections honest. Who wants that!!!

The problem here is that liberals want elections won, by any means possible, including cheating. What these fucktards don't understand is that it would be a law required of everyone.....even republicans.

Disenfranchise my ass! That's just lame and the people speaking out against it are even more lame. Why would anyone have a problem with running our elections in an honest way, unless they feel being dishonest is ok?

I got defriended on FB by an Illegal, for being an proponent of voter ID. He had been posting about who he voted for in the last election. They vote and they are not allowed to. They must be stopped from doing this.

If this was about stopping any form of voter fraud then Republicans would go after absentee fraud, which is where a huge majority of the still quite limited fraud occurs. But absentee balloting and absentee fraud both tend to favor Republicans, so we know that won't happen. I'd say I can't believe you're this stupid, but then again you think movie physics and biology are real.
 

dank69

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You have no problems with big government.

Support Obamacare? That's Huge government.


You should be supporting the republicans on this big government movement.
I support big government when it is beneficial and oppose it when it is detrimental. Republicans say they oppose all big government and then push for things like voter ID laws.
 

dank69

Lifer
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Some stores require ID along with your credit card when making purchases. Many liquor stores have a 'card everyone' policy. I've had to show my ID when picking up my prescriptions. The dems howl and yowl over people needing IDs. If the state provides them free, under proper financial circumstances, I don't see any reason why IDs shouldn't be needed to vote. Other countries require this. It's not really that hard, folks.
Big government conservative.