NC GOP official fired after comments made about Voter ID on The Daily Show last night

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fuzzybabybunny

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I'm very liberal on a lot of issues and I respect the guy for being honest. I also feel that he was totally taken out of context and expressing a lot of frustrations that most of us would only admit in private.

With that said, I still don't understand why there's so much issue with getting a FREE ID so you can vote. All it takes is a little bit of effort. That's it. And not even continual effort.
 

woolfe9998

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Having a Klansman Senate Majority Leader and President pro tempore (third in the line of presidential succession) as recent as 3 years ago is a pretty big other side of the same coin. I guess I am a moron for not giving him a free pass.

It isn't about giving someone a free pass. However, some people aren't interested in trying to excuse one by citing the other. In fact, citing the same example 1,000 times, every time it comes up that a republican is racist. This is what, the third time just this week that I've seen this very photo of Byrd posted on this forum. Is this all you've got?

How about we compare the history of racism and racist comments between the GOP and the democrats in general? How well do you suppose you would fare in such a discussion? How many examples can you come up with for every 10 than I can come up with?

Anyway, the thread is about Byrd. You can go post your cliched moronic talking points somewhere else. Start a Byrd thread if you really want to talk about Byrd.
 
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Matt1970

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It isn't about giving someone a free pass. However, some people aren't interested in trying to excuse one by citing the other. In fact, citing the same example 1,000 times, every time it comes up that a republican is racist. This is what, the third time just this week that I've seen this very photo of Byrd posted on this forum. Is this all you've got?

How about we compare the history of racism and racist comments between the GOP and the democrats in general? How well do you suppose you would fare in such a discussion? How many examples can you come up with for every 10 than I can come up with?

Anyway, the thread is about Byrd. You can go post your cliched moronic talking points somewhere else. Start a Byrd thread if you really want to talk about Byrd.

Oh I would probably pull up the civil rights act of 1964 and then we could go back and forth and then maybe you would see that there are a lot of racists of both sides and see what I am talking about. But if you feel you must rub one off to some "county republican" making a racists statement and then condemn all the GOP for it, go ahead.
 

Phokus

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Having a Klansman Senate Majority Leader and President pro tempore (third in the line of presidential succession) as recent as 3 years ago is a pretty big other side of the same coin. I guess I am a moron for not giving him a free pass.

Hey, you know what, i don't give a shit if you don't give him a free pass or not. It doesn't change the fact that the GOP is the party of racists, homophobes and xenophobes.

90% of Republicans are white while only 60% of Democrats are white:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans-mostly-white.aspx

And the Democrats are only going to become more racially diverse as time goes on. But keep your head in the sand and pretend.

I mean, i know you're a fucking moron, but surely you're not THAT stupid to not realize that the more conservative party is always going to attract the most racists.
 

Jhhnn

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Oh I would probably pull up the civil rights act of 1964 and then we could go back and forth and then maybe you would see that there are a lot of racists of both sides and see what I am talking about. But if you feel you must rub one off to some "county republican" making a racists statement and then condemn all the GOP for it, go ahead.

Heh. It obviously doesn't matter that the guy was entirely too open about the disenfranchisement agenda of Repubs everywhere.

Dragging out ancient history doesn't excuse that agenda, no matter how desperately you want to claim that it does.
 

Matt1970

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Hey, you know what, i don't give a shit if you don't give him a free pass or not. It doesn't change the fact that the GOP is the party of racists, homophobes and xenophobes.

90% of Republicans are white while only 60% of Democrats are white:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans-mostly-white.aspx

And the Democrats are only going to become more racially diverse as time goes on. But keep your head in the sand and pretend.

I mean, i know you're a fucking moron, but surely you're not THAT stupid to not realize that the more conservative party is always going to attract the most racists.

Ya know, if you weren't allowed to insult anyone, you wouldn't have a fucking thing to say would you? Unlike you I don't give free passes for past digressions. I don’t take a score card, cover up what I don’t want others to see about my party and then hold it up claiming victory calling everyone who disagrees with me every name in the book.
 

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Last I heard this Democrat racist was dead. Do you have any living Democrats that are racists? Because the Republicans have plenty of them.

As a nitpick

He was adopted by a family with the name of Byrd.
 

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I'm very liberal on a lot of issues and I respect the guy for being honest. I also feel that he was totally taken out of context and expressing a lot of frustrations that most of us would only admit in private.

With that said, I still don't understand why there's so much issue with getting a FREE ID so you can vote. All it takes is a little bit of effort. That's it. And not even continual effort.

Some feel the if the ID is not free it qualifies as a tax on voting. Such was outlawed by USSC as a poll tax.
 

Phokus

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I'm very liberal on a lot of issues and I respect the guy for being honest. I also feel that he was totally taken out of context and expressing a lot of frustrations that most of us would only admit in private.

With that said, I still don't understand why there's so much issue with getting a FREE ID so you can vote. All it takes is a little bit of effort. That's it. And not even continual effort.

lol, no, he was not 'taken out of context', not only does he stand by what he said, he said the daily show actually didn't put up his WORST stuff:

http://www.mountainx.com/article/53...ism-of-his-controversial-Daily-Show-interview

Despite the controversy, Yelton tells Xpress: "The comments that were made, that I said, I stand behind them. I believe them."

The short interview clips were edited together from a much longer two-hour sit-down, says Yelton. But he says he was pleased overall with the parts that were included. In fact, he notes that some of the comments he made that weren't included might've even been more controversial. "To tell you the truth, there were a lot of things I said that they could've made sound worse than what they put up." He adds, "I would've loved to been able to do it live. … but that wasn't offered."
 

Atreus21

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It isn't about giving someone a free pass. However, some people aren't interested in trying to excuse one by citing the other. In fact, citing the same example 1,000 times, every time it comes up that a republican is racist. This is what, the third time just this week that I've seen this very photo of Byrd posted on this forum. Is this all you've got?

How about we compare the history of racism and racist comments between the GOP and the democrats in general? How well do you suppose you would fare in such a discussion? How many examples can you come up with for every 10 than I can come up with?

Anyway, the thread is about Byrd. You can go post your cliched moronic talking points somewhere else. Start a Byrd thread if you really want to talk about Byrd.

I would think republicans would do pretty well, considering democrats would have to disavow everything that bears their name before the last 50 years, approximately.

Also, it depends on what we can consider racist. Can we consider it racist when liberal news anchors talk about seeing a "whole lot of white faces" at tea party rallies? Affirmative action?

Further, how far back in history can we go?
 
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With that said, I still don't understand why there's so much issue with getting a FREE ID so you can vote. All it takes is a little bit of effort. That's it. And not even continual effort.

A "FREE ID" isn't free, it's paid for by taxpayer money. For all conservatives' pissing and moaning about out of control government spending, they don't mind adding a few more bucks to the pile if it's their pet issue that's being funded. The problem with voter ID is that, for the cost, it solves virtually nothing. There have been very few cases of in-person voter fraud in the entire United States over the past few years; I don't have the exact numbers, but according to a very brief search, some people are claiming less than 10 instances of proven in-person voter fraud in the USA since 2000. So we're going to invest millions of taxpayer dollars into an initiative which has, for all intents and purposes, literally zero impact on voter fraud in elections but actually does disenfranchise potential legal voters? What is the upside?
 

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The problem with I.D. law is that it's solving a problem that doesn't exist. Voter fraud is such a small issue (In the video the guy admits it's like 1 or 2 votes) that by having and I.D. law you end up suppressing people who would otherwise have voted. Not to mention all the other extra garbage restriction they tack on to the bill.
 

cubby1223

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Notice in the Daily Show video how you never get a shot of any one question asked followed by the immediate answer given. There is always a cut in the video.

Why anyone ever agrees to do interviews by them I haven't a clue.

You can continue believing whatever you want regarding voter id laws, just don't for a second believe you are getting an accurate representation of the interview by the segment on The Daily Show.
 
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fuzzybabybunny

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A "FREE ID" isn't free, it's paid for by taxpayer money. For all conservatives' pissing and moaning about out of control government spending, they don't mind adding a few more bucks to the pile if it's their pet issue that's being funded. The problem with voter ID is that, for the cost, it solves virtually nothing. There have been very few cases of in-person voter fraud in the entire United States over the past few years; I don't have the exact numbers, but according to a very brief search, some people are claiming less than 10 instances of proven in-person voter fraud in the USA since 2000. So we're going to invest millions of taxpayer dollars into an initiative which has, for all intents and purposes, literally zero impact on voter fraud in elections but actually does disenfranchise potential legal voters? What is the upside?

Ah, I see.
 

ivwshane

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Notice in the Daily Show video how you never get a shot of any one question asked followed by the immediate answer given. There is always a cut in the video.

Why anyone ever agrees to do interviews by them I haven't a clue.

You can continue believing whatever you want regarding voter id laws, just don't for a second believe you are getting an accurate representation of the interview by the segment on The Daily Show.

I guess you missed this post:

lol, no, he was not 'taken out of context', not only does he stand by what he said, he said the daily show actually didn't put up his WORST stuff:

http://www.mountainx.com/article/53...ism-of-his-controversial-Daily-Show-interview

The cutting of the video is to make it funny, it's funny because people are really this ignorant.
 

cubby1223

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I guess you missed this post:



The cutting of the video is to make it funny, it's funny because people are really this ignorant.

Then I'd love to see the full uncut interview and decide for myself. I actually would. Like that one line: "matter of fact one of my best friends ... is ... black" is the most unnatural sentence I have heard in a very long time, the chances that was as it was spoken in real-time is next to none.

What are we arguing? Racist people shouldn't decide laws? I agree with that. Is the perception The Daily Show portraying accurate? Only the raw uncut interview holds those answers.

I'm not interested in false representations. I fucking hate it when Fox News does it, I fucking hate it when MSNBC does it, and I certainly don't find it funny when The Daily Show does it. Sorry, lost my sense of humor over these kinds of comedy sketches.
 

thraashman

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Can we stop this already. Every single conservative knows that these id laws are for the purpose of disenfranchisement. Every single conservative that supports the id's is doing it because they support disenfranchisement. But you're never going to get them to admit it. People who commit crimes or support committing crimes don't admit to it!
 

ivwshane

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Can we stop this already. Every single conservative knows that these id laws are for the purpose of disenfranchisement. Every single conservative that supports the id's is doing it because they support disenfranchisement. But you're never going to get them to admit it. People who commit crimes or support committing crimes don't admit to it!

Well a couple of them have admitted it. Their base is obviously ok with it, as there has never been any calls for change let alone anyone even asking whether or not it's right.
 

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Voter ID seems to limit people who would vote democrat's ability to vote. I get it. No more cheating in elections. Bloody hell! It would be a travesty of justice to try and keep the elections honest. Who wants that!!!

The problem here is that liberals want elections won, by any means possible, including cheating. What these fucktards don't understand is that it would be a law required of everyone.....even republicans.

Disenfranchise my ass! That's just lame and the people speaking out against it are even more lame. Why would anyone have a problem with running our elections in an honest way, unless they feel being dishonest is ok?

I got defriended on FB by an Illegal, for being an proponent of voter ID. He had been posting about who he voted for in the last election. They vote and they are not allowed to. They must be stopped from doing this.
 
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Is this going to be a standard brain dead talking point of conservatives for the next 1000 years every time it comes up that a republican said something racist? Every time a conservative acts racist, you'll post a photo of Byrd? What an embarrassment, to have nothing of substance to say. It has absolutely zero logical or factual relevance to the topic at hand. This sort of desperation is worse than saying nothing at all.

Anyway, the racism of in the comments linked by the OP is secondary to the fact that he openly admitted the reason for the voter ID's laws is to suppress democratic voters. But then, we already knew that, and so do you.

He doesn't know it. Only a piece of shit American would support voter suppression and know why he does. Only a real asshole wouldn't want people to vote. Matt thinks highly of himself and he's not going to spoil that feeling by taking the truth in.