My top picks: '10 Charger SRT8, '08 Audi S5, '06 BMW M3

[LTC8K6]

2011 Charger R/T hits 60 in 5.3 seconds with the 5.7L. It's rated 25mpg on the highway.

 

[alkemyst]

2011 Charger R/T hits 60 in 5.3 seconds with the 5.7L. It's rated 25mpg on the highway.

SRT8 is so much more though . That 2011 still has that fucked up scalloping.

DO NUT WUNT!

 

[LTC8K6]

SRT8 is so much more though . That 2011 still has that fucked up scalloping.

DO NUT WUNT!

IIRC, the 10 SRT8 isn't much quicker...

 

[alkemyst]

well to many a 6 sec vs 5 sec 0-60 is 'close'.

 

[LTC8K6]

well to many a 6 sec vs 5 sec 0-60 is 'close'.

I'm finding about the same times for the 10 6.1L and the 11 5.7L ...Low 5's and the 11 is a much better and safer car. The 11 probably handles as well, too.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Ok DBZ. You can only make the same point so many times before we call troll on your ass. Alky is doing his thinking on the forum out loud. If it bothers you that much just step on our of his thread.

We've all gotten our teasing in now let him get his advice.

It's not trolling, it's calling him out on his hypocrisy, he's not thinking out loud in the slightest:

Be a baller like me and just buy two cars.

Maybe if you weren't so focused on typographical errors you'd be more successful in life.

If you like that GT500 so much why don't you buy it?

From only a few hours ago.

 

[alkemyst]

I'm finding about the same times for the 10 6.1L and the 11 5.7L ...Low 5's and the 11 is a much better and safer car. The 11 probably handles as well, too.

those times are wrong then...you can head over to any of the Charger fourms and see they both don't run the same times. Also there is a lot more to the SRT8 than just the times.

Direct head to head...5.7 and V6 in 2010 vs 2011

http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/charger-2010.html

The 6.1 vs 6.2 is not featured. People have dipped into the 4's with them.

 

[alkemyst]

It's not trolling, it's calling him out on his hypocrisy, he's not thinking out loud in the slightest:

From only a few hours ago.

don't cry DBZ, don't cry!

 

[bryanW1995]

Definitely like the new interior...not crazy about the body changes though especially that scalloping on the side. I will test drive one if they are out prior to my final purchase.

The mileage is greatly improved as well with cylinder deactivation.

I would recommend the older m3 over the others for sheer driving enjoyment, but it will end up costing you a lot more down the road so that needs to be factored in.

I drove an 01 m5 for 8 years, when I bought the dodge dealership a few years ago I tried to drive an srt8 charger as a demo. The car was nice, and might have been even a tick faster than the m5, but the bmw was just on another planet in terms of driving enjoyment. I haven't driven an m3 in many years, but I did drive a new hard loaded 3 series in 06-07 and it had the same pleasurable driving feel. I'll go drive one of our 2011 RT chargers to at least get a feel for it, Ralph Gilles has done a good job on many of the other cars so there's at least a chance that these new ones will be for fun to own.

 

[bryanW1995]

My 08 Grand Cherokee 5.7L with MDS runs on 4 cylinders a lot.

But MDS does not make anywhere near a 25% improvement on the highway.

More like 5-10%.

If mileage on the SRT-8 is up 25%, it's not from MDS.

it might show more an improvement in epa ratings, but real world it's 5-10% for everything that is out there from any manufacturer. If you are a particularly aggressive driver it will be closer to 0, but why would anybody try to drive his srt8 charger aggressively?

 

[bryanW1995]

dude your little M3 is hardly a $70k car....fucking idiot.

the newer m3's are 70k cars at least.

What's with the enormous chip on your shoulder?

 

[alkemyst]

the newer m3's are 70k cars at least.

What's with the enormous chip on your shoulder?

he drives an older one...I am looking at E46's mostly as I do not like the E92...only the brand new M3 will touch $70k.

You own a car dealership and drove a single car for 8 years? Why the 1995 username, I had assumed for a long time that you were 16 and just had a dad with some cars.

 

[bryanW1995]

Haha, 1995 is the year I graduated from college. I started selling cars in '96, became a manager in 99, and saved my money for years (other than the m5 obviously), until I got enough to buy a dealership in 08. My experience before coming here was ford (8 years) and chevy/pont/gmc/buick (4years).

BTW, I just drove an RT 2011 charger. It's definitely a huge improvement over the older ones, but if you don't like the body style then you probably wouldn't be happy with that one anyway.

 

[alkemyst]

wow...I never knew a car dealership manager that drove the same car for 8 years.

dealer plate advantage was lost on you.

 

[LTC8K6]

those times are wrong then...you can head over to any of the Charger fourms and see they both don't run the same times. Also there is a lot more to the SRT8 than just the times.

Direct head to head...5.7 and V6 in 2010 vs 2011

http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/charger-2010.html

The 6.1 vs 6.2 is not featured. People have dipped into the 4's with them.

6.2? It's 6.4...are you sure you know what cars you are talking about?

Your article doesn't say what you claimed, imo.

A 2011 Charger R/T 5.7L has a similar 0-60 time as a 2010 Charger SRT8 6.1L. I'm sticking with that opinion. They are quite close to each other.

 

[alkemyst]

6.2? It's 6.4...are you sure you know what cars you are talking about?

Your article doesn't say what you claimed, imo.

A 2011 Charger R/T 5.7L has a similar 0-60 time as a 2010 Charger SRT8 6.1L. I'm sticking with that opinion. They are quite close to each other.

Sorry bro...I don't spend all day learning all the model names and numbers...

5.7's turn 6 secs or more...6.x at least a full second less. Like I said we all know you think that is close....it's not though in reality.

It's clear you will never own either.

but thanks I think.?

 

[LTC8K6]

it might show more an improvement in epa ratings, but real world it's 5-10% for everything that is out there from any manufacturer. If you are a particularly aggressive driver it will be closer to 0, but why would anybody try to drive his srt8 charger aggressively?

MDS does not show any improvement in the EPA ratings as far as I remember.

Same ratings for the 2007 and 2008 Grand Cherokee 5.7L, 2008 has MDS, 2007 does not. Both 13/15/19.

I regularly see 21 on the highway.

 

[LTC8K6]

Sorry bro...I don't spend all day learning all the model names and numbers...

5.7's turn 6 secs or more...6.x at least a full second less. Like I said we all know you think that is close....it's not though in reality.

It's clear you will never own either.

but thanks I think.?

2011 R/T is way quicker than 6 or more...

Here's a 5.4 and I have seen quicker...

http://www.edmunds.com/dodge/charger/2011/road-test.html

At the track the R/T rips off the dash to 60 mph from a standstill in 5.4 seconds and dispenses with the quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 102.8 mph.

I own a 2008 Grand Cherokee Limited 4X4 5.7L which costs more...

 

[alkemyst]

k. bro, you aren't helping.

Go buy an AMD chip or something.

It's clear you somehow think cheaper is always better. Your 2008 GC doesn't cost more than a 2011 R/T.

 

[madoka]

What's with the enormous chip on your shoulder?

Tiny, baby penis explains a lot of his posts.

 

[LTC8K6]

k. bro, you aren't helping.

Go buy an AMD chip or something.

It's clear you somehow think cheaper is always better. Your 2008 GC doesn't cost more than a 2011 R/T.

Sticker was $42K on my GC, and I ain't your bro...

2011 Charger R/T Max sticker $35K...

My sig is from way back, so try to think up a better smart-aleck reference to it...

 

[DaTT]

Sticker was $42K on my GC, and I ain't your bro...

2011 Charger R/T Max sticker $35K...

My sig is from way back, so try to think up a better smart-aleck reference to it...

Good luck having anything smart fall out of Alk's mouth. Usually it's just insulting gibberish, and the occasional made up word.

 

[alkemyst]

Tiny, baby penis explains a lot of his posts.

It's actually a tiny, baby WHALE penis, and that's the reason for such a big chip on my shoulder.

Keeps me from fucking falling over when I walk.

 

[alkemyst]

Sticker was $42K on my GC, and I ain't your bro...

2011 Charger R/T Max sticker $35K...

My sig is from way back, so try to think up a better smart-aleck reference to it...

Yeah dude. That's like someone talking about their 1985 Cutlass 'stickering' more than a new car.

 

[LTC8K6]

Yeah dude. That's like someone talking about their 1985 Cutlass 'stickering' more than a new car.

Sure, 3 = 26 in your world...that makes a lot of sense. :biggrin:

Why did you bring it up anyway? Why did you assume I couldn't afford an SRT8? Why did you go there?

Makes no sense to take the conversation in that direction. Especially since I talk a lot about my 2008 GC, and have even used it in impromptu "stuck throttle" testing here.

Was it just to divert from the fact that the 2011 5.7L and the 2010 6.1L actually are similar in performance, and you didn't realize that?

That's why the SRT8's needed a boost. The new 5.7L was now too close to it, for far less money. Thus the 6.4L...