Erm, well, if you just stay on a visitor visa what do you expect? I'm not saying he wouldn't make a fine US citizen. But, in reality, he is not a US citizen. Doesn't mean I dont hope he becomes one though.
Send em back. While he might not have known it was illegal when he was 6, he sure as hell did when he got older.
He got busted, don't let the door hit yah on the way out.
He got busted, don't let the door hit yah on the way out.
this being April 15th and all, did his parents ever pay taxes, or did they just let all of us pay the cost of his education? If not, the family got a good deal out of breaking the law.
I like the criticisms of the US immigration policies... of course, no other country in the world has to deal with as much crap and stupid rules because everyone wants to move here. You want the best, you gotta pay the price.
Now he'll have to move to canada... poor guy.
I like the criticisms of the US immigration policies... of course, no other country in the world has to deal with as much crap and stupid rules because everyone wants to move here. You want the best, you gotta pay the price.
Now he'll have to move to canada... poor guy.
Originally posted by: bolsen
Send em back. While he might not have known it was illegal when he was 6, he sure as hell did when he got older.
He got busted, don't let the door hit yah on the way out.
What happen when he does realize the problem and hire a lawyer to correct it, but then the lawyer messed up ? There's plenty of crooked immigration lawyer out there that simply take the money and mess you up real good. I think INS/BCIS should have a provision against that.
And for those who suggest him to get married, its rather too late now. The marriage will not pass the scrutiny to be considered a valid one, due to the current circumstances. His option is either to file waiver (on which base, i've no idea), get deported, or lay low and pray that 245(i) got reinstated sometime in the future.
It's MY country.
And HIS country.
And YOUR country.
I'm sorry I have to be the one to bring this up but I pay taxes, a CRAPLOAD of taxes. I feel that "buys" me part of this country.
I DON'T feel it buys an illegal immigrant a part of this country.
There are good people worthy of being a US citizen all OVER this planet. But coming here of a visitor visa and just STAYING is not how you do that.
Stop blaming the policy change and start blaming his parents. The odds he would have been able to get a green card had they NOT been illegal aliens is much higher. This new law isn't the problem, the fact that they disregarded the law IS.
I'm not saying I'm happy to see him go, but where do you draw the line?
Should we let him stay just because he is your friend?
Just because he goes to college?
Because he has a job?
How are those things some great step? I have a job, I have friends etc. that makes me, at best, average.
And blaming the INS laws is crap.
I feel sorry for the guy... his parents brought him over. He's lived here his entire life. He didn't make the decision to come over here and break the law by doing so, but his parents did. Maybe his parents should be deported, but not him.
How would you feel if you learned that your parents illegally immigrated from Germany when you were just born. Do you think it would be OK for you to be deported?
How would you feel if you learned that your parents illegally immigrated from Germany when you were just born. Do you think it would be OK for you to be deported?
Wrong. Naturalization is not a hard process, but does take some time. Most of my family has immigrated from taiwan to the US with little to no problems, but the paperwork is a pain. but 15 years is _plenty_ of time, considering those of my family that have gotten citizenship have done it in less than 6 years for about 5 people. they were also able to obtain greencards for their time in the US until they were here the minimum amount of time required for citizenship. then they applied. they have been paying taxes for the facilities and benefits they now reap as US citizens. your friend has not done any of this and neither has his parents. if your friend does get to stay in the US, it basically voids all the hoops and paperwork and all the work my family had to go through to become residents of this country legally. sorry, but i don't really feel any pity for your friend.
if he really wants to stay in the US, have him contact a recruiter or talk to someone in the military about his situation and what he can do. serving his country in the military services like that would, imo, entitle him to the rights that come with citizenship. otherwise he and the rest of his family need to be deported.
Drekce
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It really sucks for him, but he is technically an illegal alien. If there is any party to blame it is most definately his parents, not the Government. I could not imagine living anywhere but here, hope he goes beck to Bangladesh and can then come back over legally.
Tell your friend to go to see a good immigration lawyer. Who knows what can be done - there are all sorts of obscure laws which can help. If he is deported it is very important that he is deported in the right way - he may be able to avoid the 10 year ban on entry if he does.
Failing the immigration lawyer ask the question on alt.visa.us (even though they will recommend a lawyer too) where you will at least get some useful help (as opposed to most you will get here). Also take a look at web sites like shusterman.com
Failing the immigration lawyer ask the question on alt.visa.us (even though they will recommend a lawyer too) where you will at least get some useful help (as opposed to most you will get here). Also take a look at web sites like shusterman.com
that's not true.
If you stay here for more than 5 years and you have a green card, then you can apply for citizenship.
It's actually more complex than that.
His brother and sister were born here. That makes them citizens. He missed that by six years. He says his mother doesn't face deportation because she is female (???). Basically it's him and his father that are in trouble.
I do agree with those who say its the parents fault. It's a shame he bears the consequence over something he had no control over. That was a pretty retarded descision they made back then. They shoudl have done it legally no matter what. What were they thinking, that he could live that way, in fear, hiding from the government?? Regarding what my friend did after age 18, I think he believed he was making the best descisions on what to do based on the information he had at the time.
His brother and sister were born here. That makes them citizens. He missed that by six years. He says his mother doesn't face deportation because she is female (???). Basically it's him and his father that are in trouble.
I do agree with those who say its the parents fault. It's a shame he bears the consequence over something he had no control over. That was a pretty retarded descision they made back then. They shoudl have done it legally no matter what. What were they thinking, that he could live that way, in fear, hiding from the government?? Regarding what my friend did after age 18, I think he believed he was making the best descisions on what to do based on the information he had at the time.
dabuddha
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Wrong. That might apply towards non first generation family members but first generation family don't have it that easy. I know so many people that lived here for years upon years on a visitor's visa and wasted thousands upon thousands of dollars on immigration lawyers and eventually ended up leaving because they could not get a green card or become naturalized.
Well look on the bright side. He goes back to Bangladesh and probably lives with his relatives. He speaks perfect American english, something highly riveted over there. He will be the prime candidate for a multi-national company representative job. On top of that he will get all the girls, all he has to do is speak that American english of his. There is always a bright side to things.
Thats pure BS. His mother can get deported as well. Its just that special registration is only mandatory for male, she might not get caught right away. But after they finish processing him and his dad, its only a matter of time before they get all the information about the mother as well.
Seriously, tell him to get a good immigration lawyer. Dunno about him, but with 2 USC children, his parent should be able to file waiver based on extreme hardship on the other 2 children if they're deported.
Yeah, tell him to join the US military. They'll gladly take him and that'll keep him from being shipped back to his home country.
Let me get this straight.
If you are born in the US, despite the fact that your parents are illegal immigrants, you are a citizen of the US?
That doesn't sound right to me.
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