My friend could be deported

elzmaddy

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I don't know too many specifics, but my friend says he is pretty sure he will be deported to Bangladesh. What I can tell you is that he came here with his family when he was six on a visitor's passport, and they just stayed. He is now twenty years old. He grew up here in Queens, New York; he speaks with no accent; he was educated in public schools (which is obvious) and graduated from a New York city high school. He has nothing to do with Bangladesh. I would say he is more American most Americans. In his room he has photos of the World Trade Center, photos of Bush, Colin Powell, and others. He displays memorabilia related to the US military -- toy models of helicopters, a helmet, bullets, etc. His bed has a comforter with an American flag design. He can tell you about any fighter jet or helicopter. His dream was to become a Marine, or serve any branch of the armed forces, really. Anyway, at this point, the citizenship matter seems like a technicality. Unfortunately, he said he spoke with a lawyer and it does not look good for him. Apparently the trouble is being caused by a new 9/11 law specifically targetting males. He is going to INS registration tomorrow. From the start I really have not believed deportation could be possible, and I have refused to entertain any discussion, because I know he is an extreme pessimist -- proof being that he has already accepted this as his fate. However, now it is starting to look like this could actually happen and I may have to say goodbye to a good friend. :(
 

ElFenix

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what if he joins the military? you said he wanted to be in it, right?
 

Dragnov

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How to put this nicely...

Sorry to hear from an emotional standpoint.

But not sorry to hear from a legal standpoint.
 

elzmaddy

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what if he joins the military? you said he wanted to be in it, right?
Yes. He says it is necessary to be at least a resident. Otherwise he would have done that a long time ago.
 

Ronstang

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Sorry, but if he was here on a visitors passport and just "decided to stay" he has broken the law and just because he has been here 15 or so years counts for nothing. I feel for you but he should be deported. It is about time we start taking our immigration laws serious because it seems as if all the people coming here from other countries haven't been for quite a long time and need a wake up call.
 

chiwawa626

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Something similar happened to a family friend of ours and there was illegal paperwork involved and the lady who was "hookin it up" got caught or something. They ended up moving back to africa then having their business partners file for them to come here as accountants beacuse they needed one that spoke their langauge...took about 2.5 years but their back now on some sort of worker visa thing.
 

elzmaddy

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Sorry, but if he was here on a visitors passport and just "decided to stay" he has broken the law and just because he has been here 15 or so years counts for nothing.
Well, he was six -- his family made that descision. Althrough it doesn't hold up legally, these fifteen years were the most formative in his life. He has been molded into -- heck, he IS an American. I don't feel he shoudl be punished for the mistakes of his parents, what he was too young to have any say over.
 

ObiKenobie

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Althrough it doesn't hold up legally, these fifteen years were the most formative in his life. He has been molded into -- heck, he IS an American.

Well why doesn't he join the army then? if he dreamt about the marines, then he join them, maybe then he won't get deported since he's serving for the US. Army?
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: ObiKenobie
Althrough it doesn't hold up legally, these fifteen years were the most formative in his life. He has been molded into -- heck, he IS an American.

Well why doesn't he join the army then? if he dreamt about the marines, then he join them, maybe then he won't get deported since he's serving for the US. Army?

Can't enlist unless you are a legalresident, i.e. greencard.

I feel for your buddy. Maybe he needs a good immigration lawyer and apply for permanent residency
 

NFS4

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You are a very bad man!! Very bad man!!

**shakes index finger back and forth**
 

TommyVercetti

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Look at the ad banners below, they are about the "Greencard Lottery"!! This target advertising works.

Can't your friend "marry" someone?
 

Shockwave

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Lets see, if my drivers license expires I dont drive around for 3 years without one then b1tch cause I get thrown in jail for no license.
If my passport expired I'd for damned sure be on top of that post haste. What, he forgot? Didnt want to wait in line? Thought it too much hassle?

Lets be realistic here, I feel for you, but this guy had it coming. Isnt like he didnt know he had some paper work to deal with.
 

Tal

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Sorry, but if he was here on a visitors passport and just "decided to stay" he has broken the law and just because he has been here 15 or so years counts for nothing. I feel for you but he should be deported. It is about time we start taking our immigration laws serious because it seems as if all the people coming here from other countries haven't been for quite a long time and need a wake up call.

Right on!


I had a friend who was here on a business VISA and has to return to Slovakia. It was a bummer for him, but he shouldn't have let his VISA expire....
 

Mday

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um, you should be able to help him, ya know. there is a grandfather claus in deportation.
 

dabuddha

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more proof that our immigration laws suck. Granted, he broke the "law" but as it can be seen in this case, its BS. Another example. If a person comes over to this country on a work visa, he can apply for a visa for his wife and she'll get one within a month. Now take me for example. I'm a US citizen and my wife isn't. To apply for a visa for her to come to this country, the waiting period is almost 9 months to a year! Luckily she's already here on a student visa but that is such utter BS.
 

toant103

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Originally posted by: elzmaddy
I don't know too many specifics, but my friend says he is pretty sure he will be deported to Bangladesh. What I can tell you is that he came here with his family when he was six on a visitor's passport, and they just stayed. He is now twenty years old. He grew up here in Queens, New York; he speaks with no accent; he was educated in public schools (which is obvious) and graduated from a New York city high school. He has nothing to do with Bangladesh. I would say he is more American most Americans. In his room he has photos of the World Trade Center, photos of Bush, Colin Powell, and others. He displays memorabilia related to the US military -- toy models of helicopters, a helmet, bullets, etc. His bed has a comforter with an American flag design. He can tell you about any fighter jet or helicopter. His dream was to become a Marine, or serve any branch of the armed forces, really. Anyway, at this point, the citizenship matter seems like a technicality. Unfortunately, he said he spoke with a lawyer and it does not look good for him. Apparently the trouble is being caused by a new 9/11 law specifically targetting males. He is going to INS registration tomorrow. From the start I really have not believed deportation could be possible, and I have refused to entertain any discussion, because I know he is an extreme pessimist -- proof being that he has already accepted this as his fate. However, now it is starting to look like this could actually happen and I may have to say goodbye to a good friend. :(

a friend of mine from Pakistan got deported 2 months ago. But he went up north instead. Cananda. Maybe your friend can do the same.
 

TommyVercetti

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Originally posted by: toant103
a friend of mine from Pakistan got deported 2 months ago. But he went up north instead. Cananda. Maybe your friend can do the same.

How do people get deported? Does the INS shows up with a couple of cops and demands that you come with them? How are people sent back, by boat?
 

benliong

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The way I see it, your friend should have though about this a lot earlier, and work something out. By highschool you should begin to realize that it's going to be a problem. One possible solution then would be to go back and start applying for college in the states. Then find a job that would get him a working visa and eventually a green card. Just like any other International student.

I feel sorry that you may have to say goodbye to an old friend, but that's the system. Hell I'd been here for 5 years and I speak better English than I do Chinese, but that doesn't mean anything. All that matters is the visa, the paperwork. Your friend's been luck to stay around in US for such a long time and enjoy the education / stable environment.
 

benliong

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
more proof that our immigration laws suck. Granted, he broke the "law" but as it can be seen in this case, its BS. Another example. If a person comes over to this country on a work visa, he can apply for a visa for his wife and she'll get one within a month. Now take me for example. I'm a US citizen and my wife isn't. To apply for a visa for her to come to this country, the waiting period is almost 9 months to a year! Luckily she's already here on a student visa but that is such utter BS.

America is a big country, and I heard from the international student's office that INS is one of the most understuffed department. They don't have enough fundings to get enough people to do things fast and check on visa status and what not. And after 911, they do get more money, but they also has more work assigned to them. Again, they don't have enough money to do the work they are supposed to do.

Sorry for your wife's case though. 9 months to a year definitely sucks.