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dabuddha

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Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: elzmaddy
It's actually more complex than that.

His brother and sister were born here. That makes them citizens. He missed that by six years. He says his mother doesn't face deportation because she is female (???). Basically it's him and his father that are in trouble.

I do agree with those who say its the parents fault. It's a shame he bears the consequence over something he had no control over. That was a pretty retarded descision they made back then. They shoudl have done it legally no matter what. What were they thinking, that he could live that way, in fear, hiding from the government?? Regarding what my friend did after age 18, I think he believed he was making the best descisions on what to do based on the information he had at the time.

Let me get this straight.

If you are born in the US, despite the fact that your parents are illegal immigrants, you are a citizen of the US?

That doesn't sound right to me.

That's right. That's how it is in most countries.
 

rufruf44

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: elzmaddy
It's actually more complex than that.

His brother and sister were born here. That makes them citizens. He missed that by six years. He says his mother doesn't face deportation because she is female (???). Basically it's him and his father that are in trouble.

I do agree with those who say its the parents fault. It's a shame he bears the consequence over something he had no control over. That was a pretty retarded descision they made back then. They shoudl have done it legally no matter what. What were they thinking, that he could live that way, in fear, hiding from the government?? Regarding what my friend did after age 18, I think he believed he was making the best descisions on what to do based on the information he had at the time.

Thats pure BS. His mother can get deported as well. Its just that special registration is only mandatory for male, she might not get caught right away. But after they finish processing him and his dad, its only a matter of time before they get all the information about the mother as well.
Seriously, tell him to get a good immigration lawyer. Dunno about him, but with 2 USC children, his parent should be able to file waiver based on extreme hardship on the other 2 children if they're deported.

Not if her children are minors. If they are, the parents won't be deported.

She still needs a waiver to stop a deportation proceedings, and there's no guarantee that the waiver will be approved. It all depends on how BCIS review the case. I think its somewhat disadvantages that her children is a minor. If they were adult, they can file for the parents permanent residency immediately.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: elzmaddy
It's actually more complex than that.

His brother and sister were born here. That makes them citizens. He missed that by six years. He says his mother doesn't face deportation because she is female (???). Basically it's him and his father that are in trouble.

I do agree with those who say its the parents fault. It's a shame he bears the consequence over something he had no control over. That was a pretty retarded descision they made back then. They shoudl have done it legally no matter what. What were they thinking, that he could live that way, in fear, hiding from the government?? Regarding what my friend did after age 18, I think he believed he was making the best descisions on what to do based on the information he had at the time.

Thats pure BS. His mother can get deported as well. Its just that special registration is only mandatory for male, she might not get caught right away. But after they finish processing him and his dad, its only a matter of time before they get all the information about the mother as well.
Seriously, tell him to get a good immigration lawyer. Dunno about him, but with 2 USC children, his parent should be able to file waiver based on extreme hardship on the other 2 children if they're deported.

Not if her children are minors. If they are, the parents won't be deported.

She still needs a waiver to stop a deportation proceedings, and there's no guarantee that the waiver will be approved. It all depends on how BCIS review the case. I think its somewhat disadvantages that her children is a minor. If they were adult, they can file for the parents permanent residency immediately.

True but until they are adults, they won't force the parents to leave because her children are citizens.
 

borealiss

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: borealiss
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: GroundZero
Originally posted by: Skoorb
The problem with US immigration is twofold: a) It's very difficult for the average person to immigrate to the US legally. Based on comments on this board and other threads it's MUCH harder than the average American is led to believe. and b) The laws are just not enforced.

That is why the US has a ton of illegal immigrants all over the freaking place. If everything was enforced accurately they could actually ease up on point a so that legitimate people and positive contributors to the nation have less hoops to go through. In an attempt to keep illegals out the US has made legal immigration difficult, but since they aren't overly willing to enforce immigration you end up with plenty of illegals and then frustrated individuals trying to do it legally.

and knowing that you and yours are here as LEGAL immigrants is also proof that if you do take the time and make the effort to come here legally, for work or to become citizens, you most likely will not "sponge" off of the system as so many illegals do.
i was most upset at the fact that these people came here legally to start with, and then decided it was, for whatever reason, easier to just ignore the due proccess of becoming a citizen. after being here for 15 years his whole family could have been naturalized citizens by now.


Wrong. Try to get your information straight at least.


Wrong. Naturalization is not a hard process, but does take some time. Most of my family has immigrated from taiwan to the US with little to no problems, but the paperwork is a pain. but 15 years is _plenty_ of time, considering those of my family that have gotten citizenship have done it in less than 6 years for about 5 people. they were also able to obtain greencards for their time in the US until they were here the minimum amount of time required for citizenship. then they applied. they have been paying taxes for the facilities and benefits they now reap as US citizens. your friend has not done any of this and neither has his parents. if your friend does get to stay in the US, it basically voids all the hoops and paperwork and all the work my family had to go through to become residents of this country legally. sorry, but i don't really feel any pity for your friend.

if he really wants to stay in the US, have him contact a recruiter or talk to someone in the military about his situation and what he can do. serving his country in the military services like that would, imo, entitle him to the rights that come with citizenship. otherwise he and the rest of his family need to be deported.

Wrong. That might apply towards non first generation family members but first generation family don't have it that easy. I know so many people that lived here for years upon years on a visitor's visa and wasted thousands upon thousands of dollars on immigration lawyers and eventually ended up leaving because they could not get a green card or become naturalized.


took my mother 6 years to become naturalized and a citizen here. she's first generation. took my cousin's teacher 7 years to become a citizen here because she put it off for a while. she's unmarried and first generation. took my friends parents from india 7 1/2 years to become citizens here because they put off becoming naturalized because of frequent travel during the first part of their marriage. they are first generation here. dunno, maybe immigration and naturalization laws made it super easy or something to get in about 20 years or so ago, but i don't see anything extraordinary about either of their situations.
 

styelers

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government comes up with stupid crap, just to get rid of people they dont want here. racial profiling is so unjust and wrong. really they fear and we all know that the "minorities are the majority" and heck they gonna have to do alot to boot all of us out!:|