My friend could be deported

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benliong

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Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Originally posted by: toant103
a friend of mine from Pakistan got deported 2 months ago. But he went up north instead. Cananda. Maybe your friend can do the same.

How do people get deported? Does the INS shows up with a couple of cops and demands that you come with them? How are people sent back, by boat?

I'd like to know too, in case I get deported one day :)
 

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As you said this was his parent's "mistake" and not his, so it seems painful to punish him for it. But as benliong said did your friend assume he could go through life without sorting this out? I guess he doesn't have an SSN, can't legally work, etc. What were his eventual plans or those of his parents to get this matter dealt with?
If a person comes over to this country on a work visa, he can apply for a visa for his wife and she'll get one within a month. Now take me for example. I'm a US citizen and my wife isn't. To apply for a visa for her to come to this country, the waiting period is almost 9 months to a year!
umm are you sure? I know that if a person brings their wife to the US they can actually have a visa for her immediately, so it's not even a month. But in regards to your wife getting permanent status I don't think she needs to stay in her home country while she gains the greencard status remotely; she can get a status in the US and an employment authorization document to stay in the US in the meantime. Perhaps talk to Rossman...
 

Dogmeat

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Just tell the INS that he's a Mexican. They will look the other way and make sure he has benifits at the tax payers expense.
 

TheCorm

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Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
How to put this nicely...

Sorry to hear from an emotional standpoint.

But not sorry to hear from a legal standpoint.

He can come over to the UK...we take anyone and everyone...and then all us nice taxpayers give them free housing and benefits :|:frown:

But I am sorry that u may be losing a close friend :(
 

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As also mentioned below I"m sure Canada would be more than willing to take him. Heck they'll take immigrants there without documentation!
 

TwinkleToes77

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Originally posted by: elzmaddy
what if he joins the military? you said he wanted to be in it, right?
Yes. He says it is necessary to be at least a resident. Otherwise he would have done that a long time ago.

Thats not true... American Army recruits a lot of canadians from the small towns along the border. They still live in canada, but are just in the american military.
 

xirtam

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Deportation is the mere act of picking up where the Native Americans left off. Sucks.
 

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Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
Originally posted by: elzmaddy
what if he joins the military? you said he wanted to be in it, right?
Yes. He says it is necessary to be at least a resident. Otherwise he would have done that a long time ago.

Thats not true... American Army recruits a lot of canadians from the small towns along the border. They still live in canada, but are just in the american military.
From marines site
I am not a citizen of the United States, but I would still like to be in the Marines. Is this possible?
In most cases you must be a United States citizen or resident alien to join the Marines.
I think also for an officer you HAVE to be a citizen.
Who is eligible to be a Marine officer?
If you are a citizen of the United States and have a bachelor's degree or in the process of getting your bachelor's degree, you may be eligible for the Marine Corps officer program.
 

UNCjigga

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Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
Originally posted by: elzmaddy
what if he joins the military? you said he wanted to be in it, right?
Yes. He says it is necessary to be at least a resident. Otherwise he would have done that a long time ago.

Thats not true... American Army recruits a lot of canadians from the small towns along the border. They still live in canada, but are just in the american military.
:Q Got Proof?

 

glen

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I think if you stay here for a certain number of years, like 15, you get citizenship even if you simmply over stayed.
 

tranceport

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The legal action that is being taken with him may be a little push in the right direction. The INS saying "Shape up or Ship out" maybe. I think that your friend should do everything that needs to be done on the paperwork side. Play the cards that are delt to you. Its a good chance that his parents will be deported but their child may get to stay.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Dogmeat
Just tell the INS that he's a Mexican. They will look the other way and make sure he has benifits at the tax payers expense.

as much as this is flame bait, From what i have seen around my town its true. :|
 

TwinkleToes77

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Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
Originally posted by: elzmaddy
what if he joins the military? you said he wanted to be in it, right?
Yes. He says it is necessary to be at least a resident. Otherwise he would have done that a long time ago.

Thats not true... American Army recruits a lot of canadians from the small towns along the border. They still live in canada, but are just in the american military.
:Q Got Proof?

Its been on the news here... CTV news CBC news
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
As you said this was his parent's "mistake" and not his, so it seems painful to punish him for it. But as benliong said did your friend assume he could go through life without sorting this out? I guess he doesn't have an SSN, can't legally work, etc. What were his eventual plans or those of his parents to get this matter dealt with?
If a person comes over to this country on a work visa, he can apply for a visa for his wife and she'll get one within a month. Now take me for example. I'm a US citizen and my wife isn't. To apply for a visa for her to come to this country, the waiting period is almost 9 months to a year!
umm are you sure? I know that if a person brings their wife to the US they can actually have a visa for her immediately, so it's not even a month. But in regards to your wife getting permanent status I don't think she needs to stay in her home country while she gains the greencard status remotely; she can get a status in the US and an employment authorization document to stay in the US in the meantime. Perhaps talk to Rossman...

That is true but I'm talking about just getting her into the country in the first place if she doesn't have a visa of any type. In my case, I got lucky because she's here on a student visa so as soon as I apply for her permanent residency, she'll be allowed to stay and won't be forced to go back even after her I-20 expires (which is needed for a student visa). A good friend of mine went to India and got married and when he came back, he applied for a visa for her. She wasn't able to come until after a year. Another friend of mine (immigration lawyer) told me that he recommends I get her here on a student visa and then apply to change her status. Another option is to get her here with a fiance visa but that takes at least 6 months.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
As also mentioned below I"m sure Canada would be more than willing to take him. Heck they'll take immigrants there without documentation!

That they will :) A good family friend of ours was living in the US for almost 12 years trying to get his green card but he eventually had to move to Canada with his family.
 

murphy55d

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I am curious about how deportation goes down as well.... anyone know what happens?

Do they show up and just take you away and send you back via plane/boat/raft ?
 

mpitts

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Originally posted by: murphy55d
I am curious about how deportation goes down as well.... anyone know what happens?

Do they show up and just take you away and send you back via plane/boat/raft ?

Think Elian Gonzales.

:D
 

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Immigration is definitely a major hassel to do it legally in the US. I've said it before and I'll say it again, By God!
 

murphy55d

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Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: murphy55d
I am curious about how deportation goes down as well.... anyone know what happens?

Do they show up and just take you away and send you back via plane/boat/raft ?

Think Elian Gonzales.

:D

:Q
 

hdeck

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wtf are you guys talking about? it wasn't his decision to come here. it was his parent's. it was THEIR responsibility to "go stand in line" and do all the legal stuff. he was just a kid!
 

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Originally posted by: hdeck
wtf are you guys talking about? it wasn't his decision to come here. it was his parent's. it was THEIR responsibility to "go stand in line" and do all the legal stuff. he was just a kid!
Yeah but he is 20 now I'm surprised he didn't take it upon himself at some point to perhaps try and sort all this out.
 

benliong

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: hdeck
wtf are you guys talking about? it wasn't his decision to come here. it was his parent's. it was THEIR responsibility to "go stand in line" and do all the legal stuff. he was just a kid!
Yeah but he is 20 now I'm surprised he didn't take it upon himself at some point to perhaps try and sort all this out.
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: hdeck
wtf are you guys talking about? it wasn't his decision to come here. it was his parent's. it was THEIR responsibility to "go stand in line" and do all the legal stuff. he was just a kid!
Yeah but he is 20 now I'm surprised he didn't take it upon himself at some point to perhaps try and sort all this out.


 

elzmaddy

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He has read this thread and says:

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"I agree that immigration laws shoudl be taken seriously. But when you're on the other side, it's more a matter of survival. When I was 18, this new law did not exist. I thought there would be a time when I would get my citizenship. After high school, my lawyer said there was a good chance it could happen. But then, the Republican state attorney general at the time threw the case out along with my fathers and declared it void. Only the US attorney general could reopen the case now, and let's face it -- he's worse than any KKK member so it's doubtful he would be a help."
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He has worked off the books for a year after high school, which he is not telling them about. Yes, it is true that he has no SS#, green card, nothing. He has now started community college, trying everything that might help him stay, apparently. He would strongly consider anything that could help him stay, including any type of military service.

There is this girl that he loves, but he doesn't want to ask about marriage and get his heart broken -- because he knows she wouldn't say yes to marrying him anyway. I guess getting married is a big thing.