Mother holds off 3 home invaders with carbine

[fskimospy]

And you would rather be 'humane' and lock them in a cage at great expense? Yea, we are the sociopaths... :whiste:

Yes, saying that we should kill people instead of incarcerate them because can save money that way is pretty sociopathic.

I feel like you must be learning so much about yourself today.

 

[z1ggy]

Yes, saying that we should kill people instead of incarcerate them because can save money that way is pretty sociopathic.

I feel like you must be learning so much about yourself today.

I think most people would agree, sentencing a person to death at a trial for a failed home robbery is not really just.

What we are saying though (at least I would support), is they certainly deserve a double tap to the head during the act of the crime.

If Netware was carrying a pistol on him when those 3 "citizens" tried to beat and rob him, would any reasonable person shed a tear over their death if he shot them all? Nope.

Maybe you though.

 

[BUnit1701]

lol!

Now we have a situation where you endorse the killing of anyone who enters a house, unless that homeowner does not own a gun, at which point you endorse the murder of the victim instead of the assailant. We're getting up to a pretty substantial portion of the US population that you are directly endorsing the violent death of.

Keep talking about what's 'normal' though, you clown.

I never said they had to kill you, just that they shouldn't be prosecuted. You had a chance to deal with the problem, should have taken it.

 

[surfsatwerk]

I think most people would agree, sentencing a person to death at a trial for a failed home robbery is not really just.

What we are saying though (at least I would support), is they certainly deserve a double tap to the head during the act of the crime.

If Netware was carrying a pistol on him when those 3 "citizens" tried to beat and rob him, would any reasonable person shed a tear over their death if he shot them all? Nope.

Maybe you though.

I believe there is a difference between shooting someone in the process of defending yourself and executing someone after they are no longer a potential threat.

 

[fskimospy]

I think most people would agree, sentencing a person to death at a trial for a failed home robbery is not really just.

What we are saying though (at least I would support), is they certainly deserve a double tap to the head during the act of the crime.

If netware was carrying a pistol on him when those 3 "citizens" tried to beat and rob him, would any reasonable person shed a tear over their death if he shot them all? Nope.

Maybe you though.

On what posting of mine are you basing this on? What's strange is that you seem to be trying to argue with me while seemingly repeating my position.

If someone is killed during the commission of a violent felony most people are not too terribly upset by that, myself included. Most people also think that executing every burglar would be insane.

My position was that the people who were expressing sadness that they were NOT killed and that the outcome would have been better overall if they had been are insane. Furthermore, if one DOES believe that the outcome of this burglary would have been superior had the burglars been killed, regardless of that being unnecessary to stop the crime or to defend anyone, it only stands to reason that you should want to sentence them to death after the fact as well. Why wouldn't you?

 

[fskimospy]

I never said they had to kill you, just that they shouldn't be prosecuted. You had a chance to deal with the problem, should have taken it.

lol. Internet tough guy.

 

[z1ggy]

I believe there is a difference between shooting someone in the process of defending yourself and executing someone after they are no longer a potential threat.

Correct. I thought that's kind of what I described...?

 

[surfsatwerk]

Correct. I thought that's kind of what I described...?

The intricacies of the written language. :$

 

[z1ggy]

On what posting of mine are you basing this on? What's strange is that you seem to be trying to argue with me while seemingly repeating my position.

If someone is killed during the commission of a violent felony most people are not too terribly upset by that, myself included. Most people also think that executing every burglar would be insane.

My position was that the people who were expressing sadness that they were NOT killed and that the outcome would have been better overall if they had been are insane. Furthermore, if one DOES believe that the outcome of this burglary would have been superior had the burglars been killed, regardless of that being unnecessary to stop the crime or to defend anyone, it only stands to reason that you should want to sentence them to death after the fact as well. Why wouldn't you?

I think it's a knee jerk reaction by extremely conservative people on here.

In certain states, a person entering your home is enough reason to shoot them. Even if they are running out of your house. In the time it takes to make the decision to pull the trigger, you don't know if this person's intent or what they will do in the future. You just react in your best interest, not theirs.

But yes your last statement logically makes sense. I'm just conflicted as to what happens to people like that in the future. They go jail, serve their time.. Then what. Do they go live a then meaningful and useful life? Or do they go commit other crimes?

I think the people on here who are supporters of the "those three are best off dead" are worrying about my last point. But since no person can predict the future, we have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[disappoint]

Damn it. I was drinking my morning coffee. lol

ATOT doesn't disappoint.


Wait what the hell did I just say?

 

[fskimospy]

I think it's a knee jerk reaction by extremely conservative people on here.

In certain states, a person entering your home is enough reason to shoot them. Even if they are running out of your house. In the time it takes to make the decision to pull the trigger, you don't know if this person's intent or what they will do in the future. You just react in your best interest, not theirs.

But yes your last statement logically makes sense. I'm just conflicted as to what happens to people like that in the future. They go jail, serve their time.. Then what. Do they go live a then meaningful and useful life? Or do they go commit other crimes?

I think the people on here who are supporters of the "those three are best off dead" are worrying about my last point. But since no person can predict the future, we have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Recidivism rates in the US are a big problem, but as you said I hardly think most normal people think mass executions are the way to solve that.

Yes, I would imagine that most of the posting in here is from internet tough guys who are just having an emotional reaction to something. It's still pretty gross though.

 

[Jhhnn]

Eskimospy thinks there's something wrong disposing of armed home invaders...

Not sure if serious. Empathizing with those who'd kill innocent men, women, children in their own homes. That somehow makes sense to you? It is not agreeable. They may be human, but their actions cross the line. They forfeit their lives. It's not up to us to play "oh golly gee, I really wish he hadn't done that". No. It's simply our duty to put them down. It is our duty to protect the innocent.

All good men should be the executioners of evil men, not their associates, companions, or sympathizers.

*Morally speaking, legal is another matter.

I do love the usual jumping to conclusions, that leap of faith to believing what you want to believe, of assigning motives based on your own bias & so-called "values".

What leads you to think that the intent was murder rather than burglary?

 

[disappoint]

You're crazy.

So?

It's still pretty gross though.

Don't judge me!

What 2 (or more) consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom is no one's business but their own! Those perps consented to getting facials when they burst through the door armed. *bangbangbangfapfapfapfapfap*

 

[ch33zw1z]

^^ LOL

 

[Jaskalas]

I do love the usual jumping to conclusions, that leap of faith to believing what you want to believe, of assigning motives based on your own bias & so-called "values".

What leads you to think that the intent was murder rather than burglary?

Trying to grasp the... motivation here. A scenario of armed home invaders, and you presume innocence of intent? Uh huh..

You may feel free to invite them to a cup of coffee, just don't expect others to do the same.

 

[Squeetard]

You idiot, I'm talking about the feelings of the children in the house who would have seen someone shot to death. A home invasion is traumatic enough, it's a great thing that children didn't need to go through that.

Yea, it would have been so much better for them seeing their Mother shot to death. You are such a smug liberal with your head firmly up your behind. You have no idea what the world is like. Your opinions have no merit so it is time to put you on ignore.

 

[fskimospy]

Yea, it would have been so much better for them seeing their Mother shot to death. You are such a smug liberal with your head firmly up your behind. You have no idea what the world is like. Your opinions have no merit so it is time to put you on ignore.

I love it when clueless people who haven't bothered to read a thread get all outraged over fake things they made up in their minds to fit their own biases.

Dumbass.

 

[Phanuel]

Well, technically you're still an idiot Eskimospy. She did commit a felony of sorts by firing a warning shot. When the law makes shooting someone legal and warning them by actions illegal we're not left with much room to defend ourselves.

 

[JTsyo]

Wrong. It is common knowledge that a high powered rifle with many rounds of ammo in a single magazine is the best weapon there is for home defense.

Handgun - small ammo capacity, difficult to keep on target during durress and weak round
Shotgun - low ammo, high recoil
"assault rifle" - plenty ammo, man dropping round, low recoil, easy for females to shoot

Maybe out in the boonies but in an urban or suburban setting, those bullets are going to enter other homes and possibly hit neighbors.

 

[Squeetard]

This message is hidden because eskimospy is on your ignore list.

Bliss

 

[Phanuel]

Maybe out in the boonies but in an urban or suburban setting, those bullets are going to enter other homes and possibly hit neighbors.

The same can be said for any firearm. 9mm tends to penetrate through drywall better than .223/5.56 though as the rifle round is travelling fast enough to fragment on impact usually at the ranges we're talking about whereas the slower moving 9mm tends to remain intact.

http://how-i-did-it.org/drywall/results.html

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

So we have another supporter of mass executions!

It never ceases to amuse me how those on this board who seem most afraid of government power when it is providing health care are the most willing to use it to exterminate large numbers of their fellow citizens.

they seem so much more innocent when you call them "fellow citizens".

why don't you call these thugs for what they are? criminals that would kill you and your family with no remorse before robbing you.

 

[Mai72]

*Maybe the guys needed a hug-e wug-e?
*I feel so bad for these guys. They probably were put down by the man!
*The 1 percenters caused all of this!

 

[Incorruptible]

So, uhh, Death Penalty for everything, right?

So, uhh, You're a moron and scumbag. Stop assuming, When did I ever call for the death penalty. I didn't but because you're so full of shit you lie and make up crap as usual.

Why is there a next time, other than in your fear mongering imagination?

Why would anybody's stance on willful homicide change if they were so affected?

So would you have preferred if the mother was killed but as long as your precious criminal thugs are safe then everything is alright.

I still see you're angry about getting teabagged. Just STFU you miserable little boy.

 

[TerryMathews]

Maybe out in the boonies but in an urban or suburban setting, those bullets are going to enter other homes and possibly hit neighbors.

I do love the usual jumping to conclusions, that leap of faith to believing what you want to believe

Lol