Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.

[JD50]

Esiason is the voice of white middle class Americans, especially white Long Islanders who have family members that are NYPD officers and work in inner cities in Queens and Brooklyn, Boomer spoke what a lot of them say in their suburban homes.

LMAO Boomer is a rich old white dude, he has absolutely nothing in common with someone like me, an ACTUAL white middle class American.

 

[JD50]

Kaepernick had his views, so why not? Why should only Kap or LeBron have their views solidified and not Showalter, etc.?

Ironically, when Showalter was the Orioles manager, the Freddie Gray protests happened and he did sympathize with the Baltimore residents, other white coaches would not have done the same, especially hockey's John Tortorella.

Baltimore Orioles Manager: ‘I’ve Never Been Black,’ Never Faced Those ‘Challenges’

After the Baltimore Orioles and Chicago White Sox played a game in front of an empty Camden Yards on Wednesday, Orioles manager Buck Showalter made some comments about race relations that many have praised.

www.mediaite.com

Do you see a single poster here constantly mentioning Kap or LeBron as an authority figure like you constantly mention... Boomer freaking Esaison lol.

 

[GettyRoad]

LMAO Boomer is a rich old white dude, he has absolutely nothing in common with someone like me, an ACTUAL white middle class American.

Then why does he play the working class shtick, the "I'm a hockey fan, I love cops, etc." canard on his WFAN radio show?

 

[JD50]

Then why does he play the working class shtick, the "I'm a hockey fan, I love cops, etc." canard on his WFAN radio show?

Because it gets rubes like you to tune in

 

[HomerJS]

Coach Vermeil, Boomer Esiason, etc. did not like that he brought the US flag into it. Vermeil agreed that there is racism in policing and it is wrong, but why bring up the flag? What does the flag have to do with it? U.S. flag is seen as a symbol of America.

That is a lie. Kapernick did not protest with a flag.

Who disrespected US soldiers? Kapernick or Trump

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Esiason is the voice of white supremacist middle class Americans

fify

 

[HomerJS]

I’m surprised @GettyRoad hasn't quoted coach Tommy Tubberville. Some of TTs gems are right inline with the @GettyRoad algorithm.

 

[GettyRoad]

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Not every cop is a racist, can't sweep with a broad brush, that was what Boomer said originally...

 

[Vic]

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Not every cop is a racist, can't sweep with a broad brush, that was what Boomer said originally...

Except that no one ever said that every cop is a racist. So that was Boomer using a broadbrush to make a bad faith argument.
I bet the reason why he did that is the same reason why he's never complained about white conservatives using the flag to make a political statement.

 

[fskimospy]

This dudes obsession with Boomer Esiason is one of the strangest things I've seen this forum in uhhh.... almost 19 years (wtf how have I been here that long?). Almost as strange as that one dude who'd type the ' character instead of the letter "o"

I swear he reads like someone who read a wiki article on America. Who the fuck has thought about Boomer Esiason in…shit I don’t even know how long.

Also it took me a long time to type out his name because my phone also had no fucking idea who he is.

 

[Vic]

I swear he reads like someone who read a wiki article on America. Who the fuck has thought about Boomer Esiason in…shit I don’t even know how long.

Also it took me a long time to type out his name because my phone also had no fucking idea who he is.

I just marvel at how Getty is like a microcosm of right-wing bad faith arguments. A one stop shop for the kind of self-serving baldfaced lies that conservatives require to constantly defend the morally and ethically indefensible.
Case in point, right off the bat he agreed this "crime wave" is a media fabrication, but then defends it with the argument that conservative feels are more important than truth.
And that was just the tip of his bad faith iceberg in this thread.

 

[EduCat]

Not according to the Chicago PD, who I imagine would know.

Shootings, Homicides in Chicago Drop 13% in 2023 and Returned to Pre-Pandemic Levels, But Violence Numbers Remain Among Highest in Recent Decades

There were 617 homicides and 2,450 shootings across Chicago throughout 2023, according to Chicago Police Department data, with both totals hitting their lowest marks since 2019.

news.wttw.com

According to them robberies went up 23%, which is still bad, but nowhere near over 100%. Shootings dropped by 17% and homicides dropped by 13%.

See Gettyroad, it isn't just people's feels. People also make up statistics to support their feels.

Lol I actually live here on the near west side and couldn't care less about crime on the north side, etc. In my ward it's actually up over 140%. https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/chicago-residents-sound-off-crime-demand-public-safety-plan

But you know better and so smart. lol

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Then why does he play the working class shtick, the "I'm a hockey fan, I love cops, etc." canard on his WFAN radio show?

There's a quote I remember from the Bush Jr era. Something along the lines of 'the greatest trick Bush's marketing team pulled was convincing Republicans a Harvard grad New Englander came from Texas'.

 

[WelshBloke]

People don't feel the economy is doing well, hence why Republicans are leading in the polls.
People didn't feel crime go down in 1993, hence why Rudy Giuliani won in NYC.

Facts don't care about feelings, true, but people feel like this.

Ah for fucks sake. When people's feelings don't gel with reality you don't try to change reality to fit in with their fantasies you explain to them that they are wrong and present the facts to them.

 

[GettyRoad]

I swear he reads like someone who read a wiki article on America. Who the fuck has thought about Boomer Esiason in…shit I don’t even know how long.

Also it took me a long time to type out his name because my phone also had no fucking idea who he is.

Boomer is still relevant because he has a nationally syndicated sports and culture war radio show, and he is on CBS Sports. He's co-anchoring the Super Bowl next month, so he's pretty relevant. He's NOT be underestimated, if so, why has he been on the air for so long?

https://www.audacy.com/wfan/hosts/boomer-and-gio

 

[WelshBloke]

There's a quote I remember from the Bush Jr era. Something along the lines of 'the greatest trick Bush's marketing team pulled was convincing Republicans a Harvard grad New Englander came from Texas'.

Conservatives are all about pretending to be things they aren't.
There's Trump the "man of the people who tells it like it is" who lies constantly and craps on a gold toilet.
There's Sunak the "self made business man who's still grounded" who married a rich lady and had to borrow a not posh car for a photo op.
There Boris the "honest bloke who protected the nation during COVID" who papered no10 in gold wallpaper and charged it to the nation and literally said that COVID was a good way to get rid of the old people!

They are a bunch of self serving shits who, if they had real jobs, wouldn't even be left in charge of the tea fund.

 

[Vic]

Lol I actually live here on the near west side and couldn't care less about crime on the north side, etc. In my ward it's actually up over 140%. https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/chicago-residents-sound-off-crime-demand-public-safety-plan

But you know better and so smart. lol

Maybe the Chicago PD should do something about it and their among-the-lowest-in-the-nation clearance rates then?

It seems silly to blame the Democrats for the miserable performance of a de facto GOP-controlled govt agency, doesn't it?
Yet another bad faith argument from conservatives that flies under the radar for some reason.

 

[Vic]

Boomer is still relevant because he has a nationally syndicated sports and culture war radio show, and he is on CBS Sports. He's co-anchoring the Super Bowl next month, so he's pretty relevant. He's NOT be underestimated, if so, why has he been on the air for so long?

https://www.audacy.com/wfan/hosts/boomer-and-gio

So he's a champion of racist culture warrior jocks. Who gives a shit? That's the crowd that's quietly hoping Trump becomes America's first dictator. Dems have no reason to pander to those types because FAR more voters disagree with them than agree.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Like the number of people they kill each year?

That's part of it. But I remember an issue a few years back with several departments across the country. They'd classify things at a lower, less violent level.

Burglaries became vandalism.

Armed robberies became assaults.

Car thefts became joyridng or receiving stolen property.

Deaths during domestic disputes weren't classified as homicides.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Maybe the Chicago PD should do something about it and their among-the-lowest-in-the-nation clearance rates then?

You mean like Jon Burge?

Jon Burge - Wikipedia​

Jon Graham Burge (December 20, 1947 - September 19, 2018) was an American convicted felon police detective and commander in the Chicago Police Department who was found guilty of having "directly participated in or implicitly approved the torture" of at least 118 people in police custody in order to force false confessions.



There was another similar case in New York and one in either Boston or Baltimore.

 

[brycejones]

@GettyRoad isn’t even in the US. Just another foreign troll account.

 

[Pohemi]

....places like Chicago, Philly don't feel so safe all the time.... ...but still, some areas don't feel safe, regardless of racial makeup.

Cops don't feel that way...

They don't feel Democrats are addressing crime in urban minority areas the way they want it to, with aggressive crime fighting and they feel Dems and BLM are dividing them from connecting with the communities.

People don't feel the economy is doing well, hence why Republicans are leading in the polls.
People didn't feel crime go down in 1993, hence why Rudy Giuliani won in NYC.

Facts don't care about feelings, true, but people feel like this.

I find it funny how you claim to magically know how the entire country, all of it's people of every color, and even locations, FEEL.

Coach Vermeil, Boomer Esiason, etc. did not like that he brought the US flag into it.

He didn't. I don't know why you keep claiming he "brought the flag into it". He knelt on the field.

If those clowns were claiming he did something to/with the flag, then they're as idiotic and dishonest as you are. Perhaps it's why you like them so much? They give you false ammo for your false arguments.

Esiason is the voice of white middle class Americans...

What...? That might be the dumbest thing you've said yet. Which says a lot.

Not every cop is a racist, can't sweep with a broad brush, that was what Boomer said originally...

You keep accusing others of doing things that they aren't doing. Nobody here has said that all cops are racist.

You are the one painting everything with a broad (and racist) brush. Stop projecting that on everyone else.

 

[HomerJS]

Waiting for @GettyRoad to claim a lot of people feel Trump won the 2020 election therefore he should be reinstated as President.

 

[WelshBloke]

Waiting for @GettyRoad to claim a lot of people feel Trump won the 2020 election therefore he should be reinstated as President.

How about the "lots of people think Getty is an idiot who should STFU"?

 

[trenchfoot]

People don't feel the economy is doing well, hence why Republicans are leading in the polls.
People didn't feel crime go down in 1993, hence why Rudy Giuliani won in NYC.

Facts don't care about feelings, true, but people feel like this.

And just where do you think they get their doomsday "feels" from? From what I've seen, the folks in the liberal media are peachy keen having to talk about Trump and his chronic habit of breaking then avoiding the law as if every spin of the wheel comes up with another crime he's associated with. They're happy to announce that crime is down, that more jobs are popping up and being filled, that the Republican hobbled Biden infrastructure project is doing well creating jobs despite the Republicans maniacally trying to wreck it at every turn. Gas prices are down, Wall Street is on the rebound etc.

So just who is that chicken little preaching the sky is falling when the sun is out and things factually got better after Trump lost fair and square a few years ago? Gee, I wonder...

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