They're a sizeable bloc of voters. They're the bro vote. They don't see themselves as racists, they are Knicks fans and have Black and Latino friends from school and Harlem/East New York. Voters that voted for Obama and Trump. Those white men need healthcare and job growth, but also want a safe community. Dems should try to get 4/10 of their votes, not 8/10.
They're not those voters at all but thanks for the playing.
They're stupid. Biden won.
True, but they need to acknowledge their concerns about crime, etc. They're a lot of people like this in Staten Island, etc. That's how Rudy won in 1993, and Rudy was not good for policing in NYC with police brutality.
Do you also believe that the Republicans need to do more to pander to the gun control crowd? They too are a sizeable voter bloc that's deeply concerned about crime. Why is the GOP ignoring them?
Aren't you concerned about how alienating the large gun control voting bloc will cost Trump the election?
To be honest, I had no idea Boomer was still relevant to anyone until Getty brought him up here. Wasn't too surprised though to find him with the rest of has-been b-listers, bottom-feeding grifting the most gullible demographic in America.
You’ve got TONS of posts claiming “people feel therefore it is”. Now you are saying don’t pander to those same idiots?
You are so clueless . It's almost like you have brain damage. Bro vote? SMH
You don't have to PANDER, but you can acknowledge what they are dealing with, their worries with crime. Don't defund their communities' police. Leave them out of it, or promote community policing. Those people idolize black culture, go to sports events, love black athletes like Michael Jordan, etc.
I'm not, I went to high school and college with people like that. They don't like crime, some of them have qualms about BLM, some of them have cops in their families/friends that are cops and are worried about their safety, and worried about the politicization of policing and sports, and feel BLM and Kaepernick hurt policing over the past 8 years instead of teaching minority communities---in which a lot of these frat bros/sisses work or go to Knicks, Wizards, Celtics, etc. games.
No, crime is just a convenient (and politically advantageous) scapegoat for getting a tax break in the 'burbs. Don't be so gullible.
I was speaking to the larger narrative of the thread, wherein govt agencies that are almost entirely controlled by the GOP (law enforcement) are incredibly shitty at their jobs, but the campaign rhetoric is that that's all the Dems' fault.
Because they are usually white and Latino suburban cops or cops from white areas in cities that don't like Democratic-controlled City Councils or state Legislatures enacting too progressive reforms like a civilian complaint review board or ending qualified immunity. They feel it handcuffs them from doing aggressive policing. They feel the morale is low, that the progressive white/black/Latino/Native American community doesn't have their backs, the police command doesn't have their backs, the city mayor, politicians and media don't have their backs and with Kaepernick, that Kap, LeBron, Jaylen Brown, etc. don't have their backs, and those were guys they liked watching sports to escape.
Why should any patriotic American have the backs of govt officials who are openly hostile to their rights and freedoms?
Petty theft and shop lifting are clearly on the rise. I'm 66, last year was the first time in my life I've heard of a store closing because of shop lifting. There are drugged out zombies walking the streets in some city's. My hunch is violent crime is down, but unreported crime is way up.IMHO: The mindset that thinks crime is up in 2023 is the same mindset that says the US economy white their own personal circumstances and their community are good.
I'm going to sound like a paranoid right winger, but I blame the media. Bad news sells. Good news gets the last block on MSM news segments. At the same time the Fox News right wing media infrastructure plays any crime they find on a 24x7 loop so their people are conditioned to believe the opposite of reality.
Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.
Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken impression.www.nbcnews.com
It’s funny how the crime stats are real when crime goes up but fake when crime goes down.
To find out that theft is rising when income inequality is rising does not surprise me.
Year old stats (2022) before the dramatic decrease in crime we are discussing.
Shoplifting Statistics (2025): Retail Theft Data by State
Latest available statistics on how common shoplifting is in America, how often shoplifters get caught and all other aspects of retail theft.capitaloneshopping.com
I think people really overlook the role of law enforcement in the increase in crime we saw from 2020 to 2022. A lot of cops chose to stop doing their jobs while still collecting a paycheck.
That’s absolutely true! It doesn’t change the fact that the stats you cited are irrelevant to the discussion though.
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