More protests getting out of hand in Berkeley

[AnonymouseUser]

Good to see maxi has a white knight to stand for him. And a flurry of stupid to back it up.

Yes, because hating Christians (aka, inbred fanatical religious nuts) while loving moslems (aka, inbred fanatical religious nuts) is the true sign of intelligence.

 

[Jhhnn]

Why do liberals love war?



It's a protest, and they are protected by the local police.



I don't see the point, but I can do that as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Yazidis_by_ISIL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Shias_by_ISIL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_genocide

The point is that such acts are not exclusive to Islam, which is what your post implied.

Shee-it, Sherlock- Protestants & Catholics have been killing each other in N Ireland for a very long while.

 

[Jhhnn]

Good to see maxi has a white knight to stand for him. And a flurry of stupid to back it up.

It's tag team trolling.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Party on party on, let's begin!

 

[ch33zw1z]

It's good to know you stand with us against islam.

It's USA, inclusive freedoms until you violate the rights of another. Applies to all, except our ruling class of course.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Yes, because hating Christians (aka, inbred fanatical religious nuts) while loving moslems (aka, inbred fanatical religious nuts) is the true sign of intelligence.

and making ignorant, inaccurate statements is the status quo for you and maxi and underoos, et al.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Yes, because hating Christians (aka, inbred fanatical religious nuts) while loving moslems (aka, inbred fanatical religious nuts) is the true sign of intelligence.

Did a family member try breeding with you and that's why you left?

 

[AnonymouseUser]

It's USA, inclusive freedoms until you violate the rights of another. Applies to all, except our ruling class of course.

Given the lack of freedoms for non-moslems in moslem countries, I'm glad you stand with us.

and making ignorant, inaccurate statements is the status quo for you and maxi and underoos, et al.

I agree, and my statement is inaccurate that it implies a similar percentage of inbreeding between Christians and moslems. moslem inbreeding is obviously far worse.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

The point is that such acts are not exclusive to Islam, which is what your post implied.

Shee-it, Sherlock- Protestants & Catholics have been killing each other in N Ireland for a very long while.

And my point is that you willfully ignore crimes committed by group A because "group B does it, too."

 

[ch33zw1z]

Given the lack of freedoms for non-moslems in moslem countries, I'm glad you stand with us.

Other countries don't operate with the same principles. So I don't particularly care what happens elsewhere all the time.

That's what's supposed to make us different from other nations.

 

[brycejones]

It's a protest, and they are protected by the local police.

So they aren't allowed to be able to protect themselves? Why do you hate America and stand with fascists and white supremacists?

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Other countries don't operate with the same principles. So I don't particularly care what happens elsewhere all the time.

That's what's supposed to make us different from other nations.

So what is wrong with staying different from other nations? Why are we importing moslems? Why do you think China and Japan refuse to allow moslems?

So they aren't allowed to be able to protect themselves? Why do you hate America and stand with fascists and white supremacists?

Why did you lump the fascists with the "white supremacists"?

 

[ch33zw1z]

So what is wrong with staying different from other nations? Why are we importing moslems? Why do you think China and Japan refuse to allow moslems?

Being inclusive to people who also want to share our values, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexual preference, etc....that's what makes us different.

If a Muslim wants to immigrate here to share our values, works for me.

To assume they're all out to get us is not being American, it's being fearful.

Of course there are other variables at play when it comes to persons fleeing other countries due to killings, persecution, etc...

 

[brycejones]

Why did you lump the fascists with the "white supremacists"?

Stop deflecting. Why are you afraid to allow people to defend themselves against fascists and white supremacists? Why do you hate America?

 

[Amused]

It's common sense based on observable realities. There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world - about 1 in 5 people on the face of the Earth. If it were anywhere near the threat the propagandized hiding under their beds alt-right believes it is, there would be a constant barrage of terrorism and attacks. They've been bombarded by propaganda and had their minds compromised for the past 15 years to be terrified of them. I went to school with Muslims, work with some, some of my neighbours are Muslim. Muslims immigrate into my country regularly. There are no notable issues due to any of them being there.

It's a propaganda talking point that the 'left' adores Islam, assuredly there are some overtly fanatical people who lean left that do think that way. The right and left certainly have their fanatics, but if you're discussing the right of America or alt-right trash, they are overwhelmingly more fanatical in their beliefs than the left of their nation. The irony is they have more in common with Islamic fanatics than anywhere else in the world, consider the fanatics of Islam are far right, just as the fanatics of Christianity who want to strip people of their rights due to their religious beliefs.

The reality is that there are profoundly irrational people in this world, susceptible to being converted and turned into dangerous lunatics. This is separate from religion or political ideology and a fundamental weakness of these people. Their religion is an avenue into their already fractured minds to turn them crazy and drive them to destructive behaviour. Religion is inherently irrational and the three current day religious myths are all based on the mythologies of Middle Eastern goat herders who lived anywhere from about 1500 (Islam) to 2000 (Christianity) to 2500 (Jewish) years ago. I think there should also be some simple exercises in empathy that are performed to try and understand why there is hatred from regions like Iraq towards the West. About 400,000 were murdered in the last Iraq war from the bombs being dropped and related carnage of that invasion. Imagine you are sitting in your home and suddenly a bomb rips through the roof and incinerates your spouse, or this happens to someone else close to you. How are you going to feel about the entity that dropped that bomb ? It's high time the aggressive arrogant foreign policy decisions to meddle in that part of the world are giving some considerations. It's not reasonable to expect to slaughter large numbers of people in a region and act surprised when they resent those doing the slaughter. It created a breeding ground for people that fanatics could recruit and use for terror. It's not an apology for those who choose to become violent and attack others in retribution. They are making that choice and it is their responsibility. But those acts of aggression are giving fanatics a basis of hate on which to indoctrinate and recruit with.

So when far right propaganda victims start in on their rants that the left loves Islam I just laugh it off. I abhor all religion. It is a cancer on society and the current day Abrahamic myths should have been relegated to the dustbin of historical myths like the Greek mythological religions and Pagan myths that came before them. What I don't have time for is ostracizing or demonizing people because of their susceptibility to fairy tales about being able to escape death or that they are the chosen of some invisible deity that is spying on their every daily action and thought. They have the right to believe what they want, regardless of how foolish. You can look at some of the posts in this thread and see the fearful propagandized bed wetters that advocate taking away basic human rights from Muslims and treating them as subhuman. That is where I have my issue. Christianity is not under an attack of human rights in the West, whereas Islam is. So I have no issue speaking out against these fearful assholes, even if I deplore the dogma of Islam as much as I do the other two major religion's dogma. It's a common trait among the religious to think they are better than the other faiths, just due to the difference of faith and believing their myth is better than the other's.

I agree that Islam has not been moderated like Christianity has. I believe this is because there are still nation based theocracies with governing laws based on the faith. But the evidence does not support the claim that 1 in 5 people on this Earth are fundamentally a danger because of some silly fairy tale they prescribe to. The actual violent acts and number of people involved is so minuscule compared to that 1.5 billion number that the argument holds no weight. Everything used to prop up that bullshit is innuendo and fear-mongering. The hard numbers are the proof that it's bullshit.

1 in 3 American Christians believe the bible is the literal truth. Even knowing that, when I'm in America I'm not afraid of my wife being raped or seeing babies slaughtered in their cribs as is advocated in the old testament, because it takes a leap beyond the religious dogma, requiring someone in a very small minority whose mind is broken to actually act on the bullshit found in the religious books of fables.

This. So much this.

 

[Orignal Earl]

So what is wrong with staying different from other nations? Why are we importing moslems? Why do you think China and Japan refuse to allow moslems?

There's millions of Muslims already in the US, China and Japan.
Through inbreeding, won't they eventually over throw the governments?

 

[Amused]

...of course, they did plenty before and after... compare the size and scale here: (Skip to 1:15 if you wanna' get right to the action.)

Sorry... the theory that it's OUR fault for "triggering" a response is false.

Ah yes. Bill Warner, the creator of Political Islam, one of the most racist, islamophobic websites on the web. Such a lying, racist he has his own page detailing him on the SPLC. He's so virulently anti-islamic even Jews are offending by his one man hate propaganda crusade.

Maybe you should check your sources...

 

[AnonymouseUser]

If a Muslim wants to immigrate here to share our values, works for me.

They don't, though. Assimilation is not acceptable in islam.

Stop deflecting. Why are you afraid to allow people to defend themselves against fascists and white supremacists? Why do you hate America?

People absolutely should be allowed to defend themselves against the Antifascists since the police in Berkeley won't.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

They don't, though. Assimilation is not acceptable in islam.



People absolutely should be allowed to defend themselves against the Antifascists since the police in Berkeley won't.

Lol... you're nowhere near as clever as you think you are. Same goes for maxi and underoos.

 

[ch33zw1z]

They don't, though. Assimilation is not acceptable in islam.



People absolutely should be allowed to defend themselves against the Antifascists since the police in Berkeley won't.

Sure it is. There's literally hundreds of millions of Muslims who want nothing more than to live their lives.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

@AnonymouseUser: don't get the wrong impression here. I am not on your or Maxi-pad's side here. You're both crazier than a shithouse rat--each, not "half as crazy as said rat per person"--on an entire sheet of brown blotter acid.

You and he, as far as I'm concerned, are one small step removed from the jihadis yourselves, the main difference being you haven't the courage to cause physical havoc. The Horseshoe Effect makes for odd bedfellows...

 

[AnonymouseUser]

@AnonymouseUser: don't get the wrong impression here. I am not on your or Maxi-pad's side here. You're both crazier than a shithouse rat--each, not "half as crazy as said rat per person"--on an entire sheet of brown blotter acid.

You and he, as far as I'm concerned, are one small step removed from the jihadis yourselves, the main difference being you haven't the courage to cause physical havoc. The Horseshoe Effect makes for odd bedfellows...

I don't have the wrong impression; it's not me that is confused. You say you hate people like me and Blue_Max due to our "extreme views" and intolerance, yet you love a group with far more extreme views and who are far less tolerant of other cultures. You also find the fact that I am less murderous than moslems to be from a lack of courage, and possibly a negative ding on my personality? Not sure I quite follow, but it's not like progressives make a whole lot of sense anyway.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Uh...did you not see the part where I said I think Islam, qua Islam, is an existential threat? And I don't hate you and Maxi-pad there, I fucking pity you. I place you and the jihadis on the same level, and yes, I am mocking you two for being as insane as they are but not having the balls to make your presence felt. My balls are bigger than yours and they're ovaries!

Read what people are saying to you before you reply, jackass. You're making yourself look even worse.

 

[brycejones]

People absolutely should be allowed to defend themselves against the Antifascists since the police in Berkeley won't.

Good to know you stand.......

But you still haven't answered why you hate America?

 

[AnonymouseUser]

But you still haven't answered why you hate America?

Hating communists, socialists, and fascists means I hate America? Defending/supporting long-standing laws and the constitution of the country makes me a hater? Not sure I follow this logic either.