Monsanto flavored corn coming to walmart

[Zivic]

yep, pollenation is a bitch.

I'm talking full fledged BT varieties. This corn has been available for yrs and is being grown in a lot of areas. This is nothing new, not sure why it is coming to light now?

Here's the thing. BT corn requires use of less pesticides. Problem in the past is that the protein in the corn that kills the insects is in the silk. So as long as the corn is growing you don't have to spray it. In the past varieties, once the silk dries, the protein stops being produced and farmers have to start using spray again. I have heard new varieties have alleviated this problem... though haven't looked into it. In some areas in the southern US, they have HUGE worm problems. They will spray a corn crop 15+ times. GMO crops will eliminate a majority of this spray use.

My point is...GMO or increased pesticides.

 

[dmcowen674]

No one is forcing farmers to buy Monsanto seeds...

You really shouldn't post something you know absolutely nothing about.

I see Waggy covered this.

Monsanto is absolutely forcing every farmer to purchase their crap.

Either buy their crap or forced out of the business.

Not just in the U.S. but worldwide dominance.

It's sickening.

Of course Republicans are all for this and Democrats haven't done anything to stop it either.

 

[kage69]

true for the first part.

for the second part--Monsanto is actually forcing people to buy seed that they have not bought--due to cross-pollination. Well, suing them for "patent infringement." You thought Apple was bad? lol.

http://www.triplepundit.com/2011/04/battleground-planting-rights-monsanto-sued-farmers/

Monsanto, simply put, is one of the absolute worst things for the world's food supply.

These fucks need to go.

Excellent posts zin, and I can't agree with the bolded enough. People need to educate themselves about the company and it's practices, whether or not true GMO foods are safe and practical is just part of the issue.

I feel that whatever your position is on GMO foods or Monsanto in general, we should all be able to agree that there isn't a good reason these ingredients shouldn't be labeled. Since when did the consumer having information and choice turn into a bad thing?

 

[William Gaatjes]

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Since when did the consumer having information and choice turn into a bad thing?

Since it is bad for profit, it turned into a bad thing.
Monsanto has been doing heavy lobbying for quite some time to prevent EU labeling in Brussels.
All the while we always here the same mantra here in the EU :"Free market policies are good for the customer ! " and "The customer has more choice !".

Funny that when the customers want to choose, suddenly gmo labeling is not needed. Because customers should not be making a choice between gmo and non gmo according to Monsanto lobbyists. It is not needed in the US. Why should it be needed in the EU.

There are many more examples where EU politicians speak of freedom while limiting the liberties of the citizens in individual countries at the same time...

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Democrats haven't done anything to stop it either.

This wouldn't have anything to do with the Democratic Party/PACs and Democratic Candidates receiving 48% of the political donations that Monsanto paid out?

 

[Lalakai]

interesting aspect of the political process includes the restrictions regarding employment, of federal employees who leave the gov't service and go to work in private sectors where the employees were recently involved (procurement, oversight, inspections, and such). On paper these restrictions also apply to elected members but those are more for show. However, there are no restrictions or monitoring of private sector employees who leave the private sector and go to work for the federal/state gov'ts, often in the areas where they had been closely working. In one specific case a person from Monsanto had been charged to compile a report regarding the monsanto products and submit it to the FDA for review. That person worked on the report then was hired into FDA and ended up reviewing the same report she had been working on.

This pattern is repeated quite often across the board in many areas. Until we can get politicians that can actually think for themselves, the problems will only get worse. Always loved the line "these are the facts as presented to best support my case".

 

[kage69]

This wouldn't have anything to do with the Democratic Party/PACs and Democratic Candidates receiving 48% of the political donations that Monsanto paid out?

Possibly. Corps donate to both parties all the time though, so probably not as noteworthy as your ax to grind with the Dems. I don't claim to know Monstanto's donation history, but I think it's telling that you would seize upon Dave's mention of the group that isn't doing anything vs. the group that (in his words) are all for it.

Does your "conflict of interest alarm" do anything when you consider Clarence Thomas' role at Monsanto and then the USSC?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Possibly. Corps donate to both parties all the time though, so probably not as noteworthy as your ax to grind with the Dems. I don't claim to know Monstanto's donation history, but I think it's telling that you would seize upon Dave's mention of the group that isn't doing anything vs. the group that (in his words) are all for it.

Does your "conflict of interest alarm" do anything when you consider Clarence Thomas' role at Monsanto and then the USSC?

McOwned is from the Craig234 school of the Democrats can do no wrong or it's not their fault and everything wrong is due to the Republicans.

I know that the Republicans/PACs received 52% of the donations so both parties are equally as bad for taking the donations.

I also know that Bill Gates is a huge sponsor and supporter of Monsanto, what does he know that make him support their efforts?

 

[dmcowen674]

Possibly. Corps donate to both parties all the time though, so probably not as noteworthy as your ax to grind with the Dems. I don't claim to know Monstanto's donation history, but I think it's telling that you would seize upon Dave's mention of the group that isn't doing anything vs. the group that (in his words) are all for it.

Does your "conflict of interest alarm" do anything when you consider Clarence Thomas' role at Monsanto and then the USSC?

At least I now know why he has an ax to grind with me because I go after the industry he is part of and supports their every move.

All Americans should be going after that Industry that is so hell bent on destroying the country while pulling every penny out of everyone's pocket in the process.

 

[spidey07]

Farmers Market here I come!

Guess what? They used BT on their crops. They can even say it's organic. The stuff is harmless and used everywhere. It wonderful.

 

[chisaipete]

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Mmmm sounds delicious, can't wait to poison myself.

One more reason to never shop at Walmart.

 

[Nebor]

You really shouldn't post something you know absolutely nothing about.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

At least I now know why he has an ax to grind with me because I go after the industry he is part of and supports their every move.

All Americans should be going after that Industry that is so hell bent on destroying the country while pulling every penny out of everyone's pocket in the process.

LMAO!!!! McOwned playing the victim card. Please show where I've come out in support of Monsanto.

 

[herm0016]

i am also for labeling. i would avoid the highly modified crops myself. Time to up my purchases at the local co-op.

 

[Throckmorton]

You really shouldn't post something you know absolutely nothing about.

I see Waggy covered this.

Monsanto is absolutely forcing every farmer to purchase their crap.

Either buy their crap or forced out of the business.

Not just in the U.S. but worldwide dominance.

It's sickening.

Of course Republicans are all for this and Democrats haven't done anything to stop it either.

Forced out of business how? Explain to me how a farmer is forced out of business by choosing not to buy Monsanto's seeds.

 

[Throckmorton]

true for the first part.

for the second part--Monsanto is actually forcing people to buy seed that they have not bought--due to cross-pollination. Well, suing them for "patent infringement." You thought Apple was bad? lol.

http://www.triplepundit.com/2011/04/battleground-planting-rights-monsanto-sued-farmers/

Monsanto, simply put, is one of the absolute worst things for the world's food supply.

These fucks need to go.

Wow, my head is spinning. First the plants are sterile. Then they're cross pollinating. WOW BIOLOGY IZ HARD


I have yet to see an actual news article about Monsanto suing farmers for their crops being pollinated with patented DNA. As far as I can tell, it's bullshit perpetuated by the holistic living blogosphere.

 

[kage69]

Forced out of business how? Explain to me how a farmer is forced out of business by choosing not to buy Monsanto's seeds.

1. They’ve bought up the seed companies across the Midwest.

2. They’ve written Monsanto seed laws and gotten legislators to put them through, that make cleaning, collecting and storing of seeds so onerous in terms of fees and paperwork that having normal seed becomes almost impossible.

3. Monsanto is pushing laws that ensure farmers and citizens can’t block the planting of GMO crops even if they can contaminate other crops.

4. There are Monsanto regulations buried in the FDA rules that make a farmer’s seed cleaning equipment illegal because it’s now considered a “source of seed contamination.”

Monsanto has sued more than 1,500 farmers whose fields had simply been contaminated by GM crops.

 

[Throckmorton]

1. They’ve bought up the seed companies across the Midwest.

2. They’ve written Monsanto seed laws and gotten legislators to put them through, that make cleaning, collecting and storing of seeds so onerous in terms of fees and paperwork that having normal seed becomes almost impossible.

3. Monsanto is pushing laws that ensure farmers and citizens can’t block the planting of GMO crops even if they can contaminate other crops.

4. There are Monsanto regulations buried in the FDA rules that make a farmer’s seed cleaning equipment illegal because it’s now considered a “source of seed contamination.”

Monsanto has sued more than 1,500 farmers whose fields had simply been contaminated by GM crops.

Show me evidence of Monsanto shutting down seed companies that aren't knowingly violating patents, and of them suing farmers for accidental growing of their plants. I've Googled several times, and have so far only turned up one article about a farmer being sued, and in that case Monsanto WON. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/26/eveningnews/main4048288.shtml


Everything else is just bullshit from "green" blogs. Oh let me guess, it's a massive conspiracy that the media is involved in?

 

[Lalakai]

most of the lawsuits get settled with the farmer paying fines, instead of loosing their farms paying legal bills. http://www.mindfully.org/GE/2005/Monsanto-Prosecuting-Farmers12jan05.htm

it is interesting to see that the genetic manipulation is being transferred into completely non-modified crops, through wind and pollination http://www.thesimon.com/magazine/articles/canon_fodder/01375_give_bees_chance.html .

as in any discussion there will always be the extremes, and no amount of information will convince those people, whether they are pro or con. best anyone can do is read as much as you can and make your own eval. After working 25 years in the ag sector, seeing the effects on the ground and reading the info, I know we are on some very thin ice.

 

[blackangst1]

BT foods have been around for a long time. This isnt anything really new.

 

[spidey07]

BT foods have been around for a long time. This isnt anything really new.

why is the left so anti science? That's what I want to know. Exposé their stupidity and pure hypocrisy.

Unless they want total control of everything you do, then the entire platform of the left becomes stunningly clear and evil. But that's their position.

 

[feralkid]

Quit trolling, spidey.

 

[spidey07]

Quit trolling, spidey.

No trolling. I use BT on my crops, this is personal experience talking.

I want to see a fucking libtard that grows his food and doesn't use BT. Let the libtard tell us what he uses.

Off to the google with the libtard, I'll take any questions on pest control with no googling. I can tell if theyre full of shit or not and if they grow their own veggies.

 

[feralkid]

No trolling. I use BT on my crops, this is personal experience talking.

I want to see a fucking libtard that grows his food and doesn't use BT. Let the libtard tell us what he uses.

Off to the google with the libtard, I'll take any questions on pest control with no googling. I can tell if theyre full of shit or not and if they grow their own veggies.

I was referring to you calling the left "anti-science". Get a clue.

 

[spidey07]

I was referring to you calling the left "anti-science". Get a clue.

Bullshit. I'm calling the left out in their anti science stance in this issue. The left is against progress. I am specicly calling the libtard out to show me via life experience on why and how BT is a bad thing. It's been used for decades.

I am exposing the liberal anti science and hypocrisy.

So go on libtards. How do you control worms on cabbage families? No googling. Let me know how the libtard does it.

I'm all ears. Yep, ears. How do you control the worms?