Mom, why am I fat? Georgia ads draw fire

[Fausto]

Come on maaan! Meme at play. But certain foods can produce a low level drug like effect as the quote mentioned.

Perhaps, but the problem is that people eat too much and don't move around enough. Blaming it on the food itself is a copout.

 

[KeithTalent]

on a related note, I'm always scared shitless every time watching those cooking shows on Foods network and see a chef nonchalantly drops a full stick of butter in a small frying pan to cook a two-person meal.

Somehow the French do it without becoming insanely obese and living fairly long lives. Must be all of the wine and cigarettes.

KT

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Perhaps, but the problem is that people eat too much and don't move around enough. Blaming it on the food itself is a copout.

I don't like the blame game, it is more unproductive than the fatties.

I do think it is important to understand the underlying factors, all of them, in order to help the "food addicted". For you and I, the answer is simple. But for some, it is (perhaps unnecessarily) more complex. If there is a degree of pleasure or euphoria experienced, I can see how that would go badly for people with addictive personalities. It is called comfort food for a reason.

I am not defending or attacking anyone here, just trying to be rational/reasonable. Something there is far too little of in this forum.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Like nearly all problems in current American society, fattie children are an issue of lazy and morally unguided parents who propagate their disgusting behaviors through future generations.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Like nearly all problems in current American society, fattie children are an issue of lazy and morally unguided parents who propagate their disgusting behaviors through future generations.

I think that is the one thing the collective here can get behind. Most of our children's issues, are directly the fault of the parents.

The level of negativity present in many response here, makes me think the kids are not the only ones not getting enough exercise. :\

 

[bfdd]

hahaha great ad. seriously though food education in this country is silly. we undervalue fat and way overvalue carbs.

 

[OutHouse]

So let's get this straight: you accuse someone of spouting shit because it's inconceivable to you that many public schools don't offer physical education classes. Then, when you're proven not only be wrong, but also a pompous douchebag, you dismiss it all, saying you don't give a shit because your kids have PE classes.

Your attitude is just one of many reasons why this country has problems. Of course you should give a shit that other schools have cut PE classes and have half-assed academic standards. OF COURSE you should care about the people not only in your immediate family, but also those in your county, in your state, in your country, in the world. Rather than thinking, oh, not my problem, I'm doing just fine, you SHOULD want things to change for the better, regardless of whether it directly affects you.

And then of course, since Georgia schools obviously don't have PE classes, and therefore I must have attended or live near one of those schools.

Your kids might have PE classes, but they obviously won't be learning anything about social responsibility.

What in the fuck is your God Damn problem? All i did was point out that my school district has PE and you go off the deep end and attack my kids. asking if i lived under a rock. saying im the problem with this country.... dude you may want to look in a damn mirror because to go off like you did yo have to be mentally unstable.

Georgia does have PE programs MANDATED by the state. fucking Google it you asshat and SHUT THE FUCK UP!

 

[EvilYoda]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

I love ATOT. Always good for a laugh.

 

[CZroe]

hahaha great ad. seriously though food education in this country is silly. we undervalue fat and way overvalue carbs.

Isn't correcting that what counting calories is supposed to accomplish? Fat and carbs equal calories

 

[zinfamous]

"certain polypeptides have been named exorphins, since they exert morphine-like activity on the brain. While you may not be "high," many people experience a subtle reward, a low-grade pleasure or euphoria."

Food is a hell of a drug. Like any addiction it is doubtless very tough to beat. And it would explain the high recidivism rate. As a parent, I can either be my child's pusher or nutritionist, I chose the later.

well, that is a very real problem. As unlike any other addiction (yes--food can, very much be an addiction) you have to eat.

As for your second statement:

FFS food is not a "drug". That said, I concur that this is largely on the parents, but like many other issues it's rare that they choose to break a given cycle.

If mom and dad are fat, kids are probably going to be fat.

If mom and dad didn't finish HS, kids are probably not going to finish HS.

correct, it is not a drug. and that's the problem. You can't not eat. food addiction is, probably, the most insidious type of addiction.

I do think most of this is parenting. Bad habits learned growing up are simply going to passed on. While I think there is very real, and very serious culpability for our large, ingrained, lobby-driven food industry cramming cheap and horribly destructive corn-based products down our throats, much of these effects can be avoided with good parenting and proper moderation.

However, it's certainly not that simple: dependence on cheap, corn-based overly-processed anti-food is primarily a socio-economic issue. Many, many families simply have no real access to good food.

 

[CZroe]

Like nearly all problems in current American society, fattie children are an issue of lazy and morally unguided parents who propagate their disgusting behaviors through future generations.

What was your "regular" at In-n-Out again? They may not be your kids, but lead by example.

 

[RPD]

My only problem with this is at a very young age it's the parents fault. If they are fat or just fed the kids horrible foods and/or don't tell them to get off their asses to exersice it's hard to place all the blame on young children, they don't know any better.
(I say this unable to watch the ads, so I'm unsure of who they are attacking)

 

[zinfamous]

on a related note, I'm always scared shitless every time watching those cooking shows on Foods network and see a chef nonchalantly drops a full stick of butter in a small frying pan to cook a two-person meal.

well, that's how cooking is done, tbh.

it depends on the quality of the butter, the actual portion size of the food, and what you are complementing with that meal.

Plenty of cultures thrive on butter-heavy diets and don't produce fatties. Plenty of Americans aren't actually eating butter--they're eating partially-hydorgenated vegetable oil, and killing themselves while doing it, thinking it is "healthier."

In some cases, people have dietary restrictions that keep them from eating the real deal, but for everyone else--the best option when it comes to nutrition is always the real thing: Real butter, real sugar, real carbs, etc.

 

[lxskllr]

I don't find the ads particularly offensive. What's the issue? They highlight real problems, in a direct, but non-confrontational way. There's only so much you can do in 30", and I think they used the time well.

 

[Fausto]

I don't like the blame game, it is more unproductive than the fatties.

I do think it is important to understand the underlying factors, all of them, in order to help the "food addicted". For you and I, the answer is simple. But for some, it is (perhaps unnecessarily) more complex. If there is a degree of pleasure or euphoria experienced, I can see how that would go badly for people with addictive personalities. It is called comfort food for a reason.

Right, but it's been around in one form or another forever so there has to be another factor at work to explain the explosion of fatness in the US and elsewhere.

I am not defending or attacking anyone here, just trying to be rational/reasonable. Something there is far too little of in this forum.

I disagree, you worthless jizzmopper.

 

[zinfamous]

Somehow the French do it without becoming insanely obese and living fairly long lives. Must be all of the wine and cigarettes.

KT

:thumbsup:

They also work less actual hours per week, on average, and engender less stress in their lives--probably the proper moderation of alcohol. Wine every day, but very low rate of alcoholism.

That, and you will not find the type of shit-ass quality in food in France, that is standard here. The piles of butter that they eat are like ambrosia compared to the same piles of butter for the average American.

They also walk more--much of it due to city/suburb design and far less dependence on vehicles (gas is too fucking expensive anywhere in Europe)

I love how popular it is to hate on Frenchies over here in the USA, because they do so, so many things far better than we do. I'm never sure if the hate is because of jealousy, or simply outright ignorance and xenophobia. ...Of course, I know us well enough to know that it is the latter.






...But then there's the Parisians...that's a different matter altogether. Fuck the Parisians.

 

[bfdd]

god i love butter. i contribute my heavy butter diet to me losing 60 pounds.

 

[zinfamous]

god i love butter. i contribute my heavy butter diet to me losing 60 pounds.

:thumbsup:

The only "real" NYR that I made was to "incorporate butter into far more recipes, and learn new, unique implementations of butter throughout the year."

Of course, everyone before me was "wanna lose some weight, eat healthier, exercise," blah blah blah, all that bullshit.

 

[surfsatwerk]

:thumbsup:

The only "real" NYR that I made was to "incorporate butter into far more recipes, and learn new, unique implementations of butter throughout the year."

Of course, everyone before me was "wanna lose some weight, eat healthier, exercise," blah blah blah, all that bullshit.

Next year make the same resolution with bacon grease.

 

[zinfamous]

Next year make the same resolution with bacon grease.

well, someone suggested that after I announced mine--and I retorted that bacon is cheating.

 

[Fausto]

Next year make the same resolution with bacon grease.

I collect, strain, and freeze bacon grease in roughly one tablespoon aliquots for use in cooking as I need it.

 

[zinfamous]

I collect, strain, and freeze bacon grease in roughly one tablespoon aliquots for use in cooking as I need it.

yeah, I don't get that. Who wants everything to taste like bacon?

I agree that it's a nice accent for certain dishes, but the tendency is to rely on something like that so much that it becomes a crutch. :\

I would use it when making green beans, though. Or any kind of bean. Nothing worse than a bean that tastes like a bean.




honestly: I fucking love black beans. I wouldn't want them tainted by bacon flavor

 

[lxskllr]

yeah, I don't get that. Who wants everything to taste like bacon?

I agree that it's a nice accent for certain dishes, but the tendency is to rely on something like that so much that it becomes a crutch. :\

I would use it when making green beans, though. Or any kind of bean. Nothing worse than a bean that tastes like a bean.




honestly: I fucking love black beans. I wouldn't want them tainted by bacon flavor

I don't like animal mixed with my vegetable. My mother puts swine in a lot of the vegetables she makes, and it ruins it. Makes them a greasy mess :^S

 

[surfsatwerk]

For frying eggs, bacon grease is a must imo. But scrambled eggs required butter or they don't get fluffy enough.

 

[mnewsham]

My mother is fat, but I seem to have the opposite problem

I am 5'10" or 11" weigh 115Lbs and eat once or twice a day.