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Mom, why am I fat? Georgia ads draw fire

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Apple Of Sodom said:
I'm not a pro by any means. Fighting at 135 is a good place to be and I can't train full time like a UFC fighter. I don't need to be 155 lbs of pure muscle and drop 20 lbs of water before a fight.
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Not what I meant at all. A good top game, is even better, when you have some lbs on the guy. It was mostly a tongue in cheek comment; Haven't you rolled with much heavier guys before?
 
OutHouse said:
comparing the cost of McDonalds dollar menu to fruit is retarded. Fruit is way more expensive.

just before xmas my wife sent me to the store to get fruit for a fruit salad she was making for a party. on the list was apples, oranges, grapes, pears, tangerines and something else i can not remember. anyway just the fruit alone for ONE dish was $40.00
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It depends on how you go about buying. Going with a list of what you want, buying loose fruit, and selecting fruit without regard for season is going to be expensive.

If you go with the idea that you want "fruit", buy whatever is in season and therefore cheap, buy the big bulk bag instead of the higher-priced single fruits, and be willing to accept and eat whatever fruit is currently on sale, that allows you to eat fruit much cheaper.

A big bag of apples in the fall goes for very little, and strawberries in season can be had for a reasonable price. A crate of oranges in the winter is only a few dollars.
 
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DAPUNISHER said:
Not what I meant at all. A good top game, is even better, when you have some lbs on the guy. It was mostly a tongue in cheek comment; Haven't you rolled with much heavier guys before?
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Ahh, got what you mean. I am the smallest guy in our gym (other than kids and some of the girls.) I've rolled with dudes literally twice my weight. It can suck, but fortunately BJJ is about skill and not size. 🙂 Being on top (side control is particularly good) is where I have to remain (or in deep half-guard if on bottom) to avoid being crushed and submitted.

What I have found is that being shorter and stocky does give an advantage over some of the tall dudes. Tall guys have the advantage when striking; short muscle is much better IMO for rolling. I make the tall guys nervous cause there is very little to hold onto. I can stay in nice and tight.
 
Broheim said:
anecdotal evidence I know but here it goes:

back in gradeschool grade there was this kid in my class, his mom would bake him cake everyday and he was massively obese (go figure), whenever you played with him after school you'd basically OD on sugar from all the cake, soft drink and other crap he ate all day long, it had been like this ever since we started in school. sometime during the 6th grade we started picking on him for being fat, I mean big time, afterwards the fattie stopped eating cake every day and started swimming, and you'll never guess what happened next, he got thin... eating healthy and excercising makes you lose weight... whodathunkit😱

anyways, doubt he would have gotten off his fat ass if we hadn't called him out on being fat.

guess what fatties, being fat is a choice...
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Actually it sounds like his diet and lifestyle were dictated by his mother well before he knew any better. It's great that he learned to think for himself at a young age. A lot of people have these habits so ingrained they really need outside help to make the necessary changes.
 
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Apple Of Sodom said:
Ahh, got what you mean. I am the smallest guy in our gym (other than kids and some of the girls.) I've rolled with dudes literally twice my weight. It can suck, but fortunately BJJ is about skill and not size. 🙂 Being on top (side control is particularly good) is where I have to remain (or in deep half-guard if on bottom) to avoid being crushed and submitted.

What I have found is that being shorter and stocky does give an advantage over some of the tall dudes. Tall guys have the advantage when striking; short muscle is much better IMO for rolling. I make the tall guys nervous cause there is very little to hold onto. I can stay in nice and tight.
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When skill is roughly the same though, it is good to be the one with the significant size and strength advantage. There are weight classes for a reason. And I think long v. short is a mixed bag, in every aspect of fighting. Tyson and Frazier are good examples of shorter guys that were great on the feet. And Roger Gracie, Werdum, and Bones, are good examples of how being long can be advantageous for grappling. /off topic post.
 
BoberFett said:
I get tired of hearing this bullshit. $10 will buy you enough groceries to make a wide variety of meals that coul feed a family of four.
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and that's where education/parenting comes into play. I made two parts of one argument in separate posts.

Even with access being available as preposterously inconvenient as it may be, (the corner 7-11 or quick stop is often easier than a 15-40 min bus trip to a better market), some people simply aren't going to go for the better options if the concept isn't even part of their consciousness.

So, OK--it's all "there," somewhere. Therefore, people either make the choice to use it, or not, right? No...not that simple.
 
lord_emperor said:
Actually it sounds like his diet and lifestyle were dictated by his mother well before he knew any better. It's great that he learned to think for himself at a young age. A lot of people have these habits so ingrained they really need outside help to make the necessary changes.
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It could have gone another way. Kid ends up killing himself, in which case, we would not be hearing about how they bullied him (yep, it qualifies as bullying now) to the point of suicide. Or kid shoots the whole school up.

Alternatively, Kid just endures the ridicule. But he eats more because he is depressed. He continues the spiral and ends up dying super morbidly obese. In small part, thanks to the ridicule of "friends" early in life.
 
BoberFett said:
I get tired of hearing this bullshit. $10 will buy you enough groceries to make a wide variety of meals that coul feed a family of four.
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True, but it requires cooking. You'd be surprised how many people view the kitchen as some kind of diabolical torture chamber.
 
zinfamous said:
and that's where education/parenting comes into play. I made two parts of one argument in separate posts.

Even with access being available as preposterously inconvenient as it may be, (the corner 7-11 or quick stop is often easier than a 15-40 min bus trip to a better market), some people simply aren't going to go for the better options if the concept isn't even part of their consciousness.

So, OK--it's all "there," somewhere. Therefore, people either make the choice to use it, or not, right? No...not that simple.
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And that's why I chose to use the word "lazy." If someone wants to complain about the selection of cheap, healthy food at 7-11, they're being lazy. There's a McDonalds on every corner because they take advantage of people being lazy. People need to take personal responsibility for their lives.
 
DAPUNISHER said:
When skill is roughly the same though, it is good to be the one with the significant size and strength advantage. There are weight classes for a reason. And I think long v. short is a mixed bag, in every aspect of fighting. Tyson and Frazier are good examples of shorter guys that were great on the feet. And Roger Gracie, Werdum, and Bones, are good examples of how being long can be advantageous for grappling. /off topic post.
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This thread is now about MMA and BJJ.

I absolutely agree with you. BJJ and MMA in general are very personal things. What works for some may not work for others, and one technique for a certain body type may not work against a different body type. Developing technique and knowing your body and what you do well is a key to success. There are techniques that work great when you have leverage, others that work better if you have short limbs. Because of my short legs I rarely throw up a leg triangle against taller opponents. It is just a fact. I play a different game with them. The flip side to that is my short legs can make triangles very tight when I sink them in.

To make this on topic, I say we tax people based on their BMI. Those with muscle can get a tax waiver from a physician showing their fat percentage. That is the only incentive most people respond to. Money.
 
Apple Of Sodom said:
This thread is now about MMA and BJJ.

I absolutely agree with you. BJJ and MMA in general are very personal things. What works for some may not work for others, and one technique for a certain body type may not work against a different body type. Developing technique and knowing your body and what you do well is a key to success. There are techniques that work great when you have leverage, others that work better if you have short limbs. Because of my short legs I rarely throw up a leg triangle against taller opponents. It is just a fact. I play a different game with them. The flip side to that is my short legs can make triangles very tight when I sink them in. Well stated

To make this on topic, I say we tax people based on their BMI. Those with muscle can get a tax waiver from a physician showing their fat percentage. That is the only incentive most people respond to. Money. With nearly 1-in3 Americans considered obese, they'd just form a powerful lobby with all those that profit from them, and squash the proposed legislation.
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Responses are in bold.
 
Those are great commercials. I feel really bad for those kids. Their parents are doing them a great injustice.
 
Fausto said:
Roll cylinder, cut into disks, arrange disks on sheets of wax paper, slide into large ziploc, freeze as such?
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The problem is the butter has to be very soft to mix with spices, so it clings hard to any surface, including foil or paper, and it is impossible to cut before freezing, or shape other than by rolling or placing into a container. I used aluminum foil instead of paper specifically because I thought it would detach easier from the butter after freezing.

I should probably do a second manufacturing step after freezing where I cut to slices and then pack the portions approx. like you suggested. Finding a suitable silicone mold to make a longish block of butter instead of rolling a cylinder would make the first part of the process a snap.
 
Apple Of Sodom said:
BJJ is incredibly rewarding. I love it. Even if you never want to fight, MMA is a fantastic way to stay in shape and give yourself confidence.
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I would characterize BJJ as extremely demotivating for a beginner, hard to get back into after a break, often uncomfortable/painful no matter what your skill level, and having a moderate chance of injury. 🙂

Recently started training it myself, but would never recommend it for someone who just wants to be "fit". Easier, safer and more effective to do that by lifting, running, swimming, etc.
 
Pia said:
I would characterize BJJ as extremely demotivating for a beginner, hard to get back into after a break, often uncomfortable/painful no matter what your skill level, and having a moderate chance of injury. 🙂

Recently started training it myself, but would never recommend it for someone who just wants to be "fit". Easier, safer and more effective to do that by lifting, running, swimming, etc.
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I can understand that. People think they need to win to be successful. A white belts job in BJJ is to get good positioning and to not be submitted. That is all. Obviously many white belts know submissions, but the point is to defend. I judge my success on different factors depending on who I'm rolling with. A white belt should not be able to submit a purple belt, for example. It just should not happen. They should be able to get good positioning and hold off on being submitted, and that to me is a win against them.

So many other martial arts are based on money and charging people to get ranks. It makes me sick to see a 9 year old black belt in Tae Kwon Do. That is pure bullshit. I once saw a yellow belt in TKD that was about 3 years old. Bullshit.

The problem with the other fitness methods you described is people generally don't get enjoyment from them. Some do, but most get bored or whatever else. Finding something athletic to do that you truly enjoy leads to living a healthy lifestyle, not just doing something healthy on occasion.

What school do you train under?
 
I should probably do a second manufacturing step after freezing where I cut to slices and then pack the portions approx. like you suggested. Finding a suitable silicone mold to make a longish block of butter instead of rolling a cylinder would make the first part of the process a snap.
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You might want to consider stabilizing butter by clarifying it (ala ghee). Then you can store it, seasoned and all, at room temp, and use as necessary. This is commonly done in more rural areas all over the world... for example niter kibbeh in Ethiopia.
 
BoberFett said:
And that's why I chose to use the word "lazy." If someone wants to complain about the selection of cheap, healthy food at 7-11, they're being lazy. There's a McDonalds on every corner because they take advantage of people being lazy. People need to take personal responsibility for their lives.
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sure, and how does one do this when they know nothing else? Especially starting when young with a family, for whatever reason, all you've ever known is that how you were raised is just fine enough.

It might shock you how culturally isolated one neighborhood may be from the next.
 
zinfamous said:
sure, and how does one do this when they know nothing else? Especially starting when young with a family, for whatever reason, all you've ever known is that how you were raised is just fine enough.

It might shock you how culturally isolated one neighborhood may be from the next.
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This is why we need a school lunch program like France.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6902333n

Expand the kids' palates and they come home asking for foods their parents never would have thought of, are willing to try new things instead of demanding chicken fingers and french fries for everything.

(Oh and their lunch programs are cheaper per kid than ours are.)
 
Heh this is funny, classic ATOT. Thread starts with opinions on fatty ads, morphs into a thread about MMA, BJJ, How to eat healthy for $10, and flavored frozen butter discs.

Nicely done!😀
 
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