Modonna/Whore Syndrome -- Does every man suffer from it?

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe


Feeling just are.. my point is that of of the best parts of this life come from showing the deeper parts of yourself to the person you love.Great sex within a relationship isn't just about bumping body parts,it's about trusting and loving another so much that you are willing to reveal your desires and in turn encourage them to disclose themselves to you.Some things ypu'll discover you don't like,some things she won't like and you don't have to do those things.. but to slam the door on erotic expression within your relationships is to depreive yourself of much joy.Life is short and too often miserable,why do that to yourself?

because i wont take part in that. Yes, i am EXTREMELY stubborn, i wont change my views for anyone or anything.

 

[Isla]

Walleye, sweetiepie... an IQ of 1350 on what test? Not Stanford Binet or Wexler.

Be really careful with IQ scores... remember, intelligence is a construct. Scientists can't even agree on what it is, let alone measure it reliably!

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Geekbabe


Feeling just are.. my point is that of of the best parts of this life come from showing the deeper parts of yourself to the person you love.Great sex within a relationship isn't just about bumping body parts,it's about trusting and loving another so much that you are willing to reveal your desires and in turn encourage them to disclose themselves to you.Some things ypu'll discover you don't like,some things she won't like and you don't have to do those things.. but to slam the door on erotic expression within your relationships is to depreive yourself of much joy.Life is short and too often miserable,why do that to yourself?

because i wont take part in that. Yes, i am EXTREMELY stubborn, i wont change my views for anyone or anything.

Then you will miss out on what can be one of the most satisfying parts of life,such a shame.

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Isla
Walleye, sweetiepie... an IQ of 1350 on what test? Not Stanford Binet or Wexler.

Be really careful with IQ scores... remember, intelligence is a construct. Scientists can't even agree on what it is, let alone measure it reliably!

i screwed up in typing... it happens occasionally. 135 is my IQ.

 

[AmerDoux]

Originally posted by: StormRider
Okay, from what I've read many men suffer from the Modonna/Whore Syndrome.

Basically, it's where it's hard to think of "doing the nasty deed" with someone you love and respect. In other words, it's basically when a man thinks so highly of a girl that he puts her on a pedestal and can't even imagine doing the "dirty deed" with her. He can only have sex with her in a "respectable" way -- like only in the missionary position for example.

So he has pent up sexual desires and fantasies and uses prostitutes (or girls he doesn't respect) to satisfy those urges. Meanwhile his wife (or girlfriend) is sexually frustrated because sex is boring with her man.

Now, I've never been in a relationship but I sometimes wonder if I suffer from this. For example, I've never filled my mind with images of girls I've had crushes on when I'm not being "master of my domain", if you catch my drift. Instead the girls are usually faceless.

I couldn't fantasize about someone I have a crush on and then meeting her later in a study group and looking her in the eye -- you know what I mean?

The above seems like reasonable behavior to me and therefore I wonder how many of you guys suffer from it too.

When you are not "being master of your domain", what images fill your mind? Are they girls you have relationships/crushes/friendships with? Or are they faceless girls -- perhaps an image from some naughty video you saw?

What about you girls? Who do you fantasize about when you are "killing kittens"? Is it your boyfriend? Some guy you have a crush on? Some naughty image you saw on the internet?

This really is an interesting question. As a woman, I can't have a sexual fantasy/visualize a man unless I already respect him. If he's good looking, but a botched personality, it isn't ever going to happen... not even in my imagination. Any sex/scenarios that may run thru my head are better if they are with somebody I know, respect and am sexually attracted to. I definitely have a face attached to killing my kittens.


Oh! and as far as running into them at a study group and being able to look them in the eye... yeah!!! That would be so much fun for me <insert Chesire Cat grin here>

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Geekbabe


Feeling just are.. my point is that of of the best parts of this life come from showing the deeper parts of yourself to the person you love.Great sex within a relationship isn't just about bumping body parts,it's about trusting and loving another so much that you are willing to reveal your desires and in turn encourage them to disclose themselves to you.Some things ypu'll discover you don't like,some things she won't like and you don't have to do those things.. but to slam the door on erotic expression within your relationships is to depreive yourself of much joy.Life is short and too often miserable,why do that to yourself?

because i wont take part in that. Yes, i am EXTREMELY stubborn, i wont change my views for anyone or anything.

Then you will miss out on what can be one of the most satisfying parts of life,such a shame.

whatever.

 

[Mill]

Walleye- I just wanted to check back in to tell you how fvcked up you are! It is very obvious you are attention whoring. Folks, just stop responding to him. You ain't gonna change his mind, because he is Attention whoring.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Geekbabe


Feeling just are.. my point is that of of the best parts of this life come from showing the deeper parts of yourself to the person you love.Great sex within a relationship isn't just about bumping body parts,it's about trusting and loving another so much that you are willing to reveal your desires and in turn encourage them to disclose themselves to you.Some things ypu'll discover you don't like,some things she won't like and you don't have to do those things.. but to slam the door on erotic expression within your relationships is to depreive yourself of much joy.Life is short and too often miserable,why do that to yourself?

because i wont take part in that. Yes, i am EXTREMELY stubborn, i wont change my views for anyone or anything.

You're like a young child trying to get that cube through the round hole, rather than to see that it will not fit and try another piece you will keep trying...

 

[Walleye]

just so you all dont think im running in fear of the convo, im going out to dinner.

"...I had only to wish that there be a large croud of spectators.... and that they greet me with cries of hate."

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: AmerDoux

Originally posted by: StormRider
Okay, from what I've read many men suffer from the Modonna/Whore Syndrome.

Basically, it's where it's hard to think of "doing the nasty deed" with someone you love and respect. In other words, it's basically when a man thinks so highly of a girl that he puts her on a pedestal and can't even imagine doing the "dirty deed" with her. He can only have sex with her in a "respectable" way -- like only in the missionary position for example.

So he has pent up sexual desires and fantasies and uses prostitutes (or girls he doesn't respect) to satisfy those urges. Meanwhile his wife (or girlfriend) is sexually frustrated because sex is boring with her man.

Now, I've never been in a relationship but I sometimes wonder if I suffer from this. For example, I've never filled my mind with images of girls I've had crushes on when I'm not being "master of my domain", if you catch my drift. Instead the girls are usually faceless.

I couldn't fantasize about someone I have a crush on and then meeting her later in a study group and looking her in the eye -- you know what I mean?

The above seems like reasonable behavior to me and therefore I wonder how many of you guys suffer from it too.

When you are not "being master of your domain", what images fill your mind? Are they girls you have relationships/crushes/friendships with? Or are they faceless girls -- perhaps an image from some naughty video you saw?

What about you girls? Who do you fantasize about when you are "killing kittens"? Is it your boyfriend? Some guy you have a crush on? Some naughty image you saw on the internet?

This really is an interesting question. As a woman, I can't have a sexual fantasy/visualize a man unless I already respect him. If he's good looking, but a botched personality, it isn't ever going to happen... not even in my imagination. Any sex/scenarios that may run thru my head are better if they are with somebody I know, respect and am sexually attracted to. I definitely have a face attached to killing my kittens.


Oh! and as far as running into them at a study group and being able to look them in the eye... yeah!!! That would be so much fun for me <insert Chesire Cat grin here>

Hehe, me too.

For years and years, my kitten killing sessions have all involved one face in particular. Never fails to work, so I stick with it.

 

[SnapIT]

I think about past experiences, i can bring back the moment...

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Walleye
just so you all dont think im running in fear of the convo, im going out to dinner.

"...I had only to wish that there be a large croud of spectators.... and that they greet me with cries of hate."

I seriously think my signature applies to you.

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: SnapIT
I think about past experiences, i can bring back the moment...

OMG, there was this one time that I can remember OVER AND OVER again...

Sigh.

 

[yoda291]

I won't rail anyone I don't respect. It'd be too weird and I'd just hate myself too much. But with people I care for, I'll go as far as they're comfortable with.

 

[Fausto]

Am I the only one who thinks Walleye = Elledan. The repressed pseudo-intellectual babble is just too similar.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Isla

Originally posted by: SnapIT
I think about past experiences, i can bring back the moment...

OMG, there was this one time that I can remember OVER AND OVER again...

Sigh.

Hehe... i know what you mean, some moments are memorable... I can remember and bring back everything, the feeling, the taste, the smell...

Sigh indeed...

 

[Excelsior]

I just don't see how you can be 17 and not masturbate, at least once (well once you start, you can't ever stop ). I started killing kittens when I was 14...if I didn't, I dunno what I'd do. The girls at school, in skirts, dear god. :Q I would most certainly explode without my GF lefty. Carry on everyone...

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I just don't see how you can be 17 and not masturbate, at least once (well once you start, you can't ever stop ). I started killing kittens when I was 14...if I didn't, I dunno what I'd do. The girls at school, in skirts, dear god. :Q I would most certainly explode without my GF lefty. Carry on everyone...

Rotflmao!! you'll find a 2 for 1 sale on Kleenex in aisle 5, get a box for both your g/friends

 

[Excelsior]

I struggle to find tissue of any kind. I always have to raid someone elses bathroom. Just think, if I didn't have this habit, I could save mucho $'s on tissues alone. *sigh* Its too much fun

 

[AmerDoux]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I just don't see how you can be 17 and not masturbate, at least once (well once you start, you can't ever stop ). I started killing kittens when I was 14...if I didn't, I dunno what I'd do. The girls at school, in skirts, dear god. :Q I would most certainly explode without my GF lefty. Carry on everyone...

Rotflmao!! you'll find a 2 for 1 sale on Kleenex in aisle 5, get a box for both your g/friends

Ultra Kleenex with Lotion
Costs a little more, but better for you in the long run

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I struggle to find tissue of any kind. I always have to raid someone elses bathroom. Just think, if I didn't have this habit, I could save mucho $'s on tissues alone. *sigh* Its too much fun

TMI Fool.

 

[Excelsior]

Sorry Millennium.

 

[0roo0roo]

i think it has a heavy religious element. the more religious your upbringing, the worse the modonna whore syndrome could be. it does no one good. i could care less really

 

[tcsenter]

Modonna/Whore Syndrome -- Does every man suffer from it?

Not only do I not suffer from alleged 'Madonna/Whore Syndrome' (what a name), I do believe this is the first I've ever heard of it!

Actually, it sounds more similar to what women suffer from, not men. I've heard more than one woman balk at the idea of having 'sex' with their boyfriends or husbands. They prefer, no, they demand that it be called 'making love'. Sex is what you have with a prostitute or a one-night stand.

What a joke! Get your fine nekkid ass on that kitchen table, honey, we're gonna have us some sweaty animalistic moaning get-down gorilla sex!

I've always been of the opinion that sex with someone you love and have no inhibitions with is way better than any casual one-night stand with some trashy slut sporting speed bumps; here's a little present for ya sweetie, something to remember me by - forever.

But I realize that many of my fellow neanderthals are extremely limited in believing the "height of interpersonal intimacy and sexual gratification" is being able to 'spank' a girl on the ass and call her things like a 'dirty whore' as you're doing it doggy style, you know, like they do on those movies.

Yeah, that's as good as it gets.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: SnapIT
"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

The only problem is that they behaved in a manner that got them the reputation as being a "slut", but they do not like being labelled a "slut". No one person gave them that label, they earned it in the eyes of the people that knew them.

Just like some dudes in school acted in such a way that people called them a "troublemaker", but of course they don't like being labelled that way.

If you asked anyone at all who had a bad reputation and asked if they deserved it, of course they'll always say "no". It doesn't mean that they don't deserve it, it just means THEY don't think they deserve it.

I understand what you mean, but to me, what a girl has done before i meet her doesn't matter at all, so i don't care about reputations...

Even if she's been the target of a bukkake party? BTW I know the term from my brother who lives in Japan, that's all

We have our own Bukkake Warrior on the forums. I think it's fatbaby.