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Walleye

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Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Walleye
yes. very good.

you are not how you view yourself, but how others view you. your judgement and condemnment lies in the eyes of your peers, not yourself.

Exactly.

That's why Jesus taught not to judge others, because in judging others, you condemn yourself. "He who is without sin shall cast the first stone". And since that is no one... :)

im gonna have to write a service pack... i dont beleive in that dont judge others thing. i feel we have the right, nay, the duty to judge others as we see fit.
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Skoorb
What? if it's not in the vagina it's not really sex,


I think a lot of people will disagree there...
Well clinton agrees with me :) IMO if it's not in the vagina it ain't sex. Sure it may be called "oral sex", but you're a virgin unless you've put mister happy in his female counterpart.

I disagree...
 

Storm

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: SnapIT

I understand what you mean, but to me, what a girl has done before i meet her doesn't matter at all, so i don't care about reputations...
Even if she's been the target of a bukkake party? BTW I know the term from my brother who lives in Japan, that's all :eek:

Two words that stood out... Skoorb and bukkake. Your bro is hanging out too much in the red light district... :p
 

Walleye

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: SnapIT
"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

The only problem is that they behaved in a manner that got them the reputation as being a "slut", but they do not like being labelled a "slut". No one person gave them that label, they earned it in the eyes of the people that knew them.

Just like some dudes in school acted in such a way that people called them a "troublemaker", but of course they don't like being labelled that way.

If you asked anyone at all who had a bad reputation and asked if they deserved it, of course they'll always say "no". It doesn't mean that they don't deserve it, it just means THEY don't think they deserve it.

yes. very good.

you are not how you view yourself, but how others view you. your judgement and condemnment lies in the eyes of your peers, not yourself.

WOW, you sound like a 14 year old insecure girl....

It IS how you view yourself, THAT is what really matters....

If you don't like yourself, nobody else will either... trying to please all others with your behaviour only means that you never get to do what YOU want to do...

Screw others views, it's your own self-image that you have to live with...

and you sound like a dumbarse.

I can give myself no righteousness. i can give myself no significance. i can give myself no power, no leadership, no reason on this earth. that is only given to me by others. the same goes for you, for any of you. my own self image is meaningless. it has no weight, no bearing, it is ephemeral, a smoke in the wind. Only how we are percieved in the eyes of our peers is what determines our worthiness of this life and this earth.
 

MacGaven

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Dezign is right.

I won't go into detail but I will say that the definition explained above is incomplete and there is in fact a double standard.

The masculine myth, Women for Men.
 

SnapIT

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Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: SnapIT
"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

The only problem is that they behaved in a manner that got them the reputation as being a "slut", but they do not like being labelled a "slut". No one person gave them that label, they earned it in the eyes of the people that knew them.

Just like some dudes in school acted in such a way that people called them a "troublemaker", but of course they don't like being labelled that way.

If you asked anyone at all who had a bad reputation and asked if they deserved it, of course they'll always say "no". It doesn't mean that they don't deserve it, it just means THEY don't think they deserve it.

I understand what you mean, but to me, what a girl has done before i meet her doesn't matter at all, so i don't care about reputations...
Even if she's been the target of a bukkake party? BTW I know the term from my brother who lives in Japan, that's all :eek:

Nope, i wouldn't care about that either...

Hopefully, she will share that view... ;)
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
...


i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.
 

Isla

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Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Walleye
yes. very good.

you are not how you view yourself, but how others view you. your judgement and condemnment lies in the eyes of your peers, not yourself.

Exactly.

That's why Jesus taught not to judge others, because in judging others, you condemn yourself. "He who is without sin shall cast the first stone". And since that is no one... :)

im gonna have to write a service pack... i dont beleive in that dont judge others thing. i feel we have the right, nay, the duty to judge others as we see fit.


Well, you can interpret religious teachings however you see fit. Many people do. It is always easier that way. But in the end, you will want people to be compassionate towards you. It is in giving that you will receive. It is a spiritual law that I have never seen fail. That extends to compassion, so don't let your heart grow too hard or too cold to the human condition just yet. We are all weak, we can all make mistakes. Especially the young and easily influenced.

There but for the grace of God go I...
 

Walleye

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Dec 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
...


i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.


nor do i have any intention of reading what sexual practices float your boat.

you may be right. we shall see. i have every intention of not taking part in unnatural and disgusting sex at any part of my life.
 

SnapIT

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Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: SnapIT
"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

The only problem is that they behaved in a manner that got them the reputation as being a "slut", but they do not like being labelled a "slut". No one person gave them that label, they earned it in the eyes of the people that knew them.

Just like some dudes in school acted in such a way that people called them a "troublemaker", but of course they don't like being labelled that way.

If you asked anyone at all who had a bad reputation and asked if they deserved it, of course they'll always say "no". It doesn't mean that they don't deserve it, it just means THEY don't think they deserve it.

yes. very good.

you are not how you view yourself, but how others view you. your judgement and condemnment lies in the eyes of your peers, not yourself.

WOW, you sound like a 14 year old insecure girl....

It IS how you view yourself, THAT is what really matters....

If you don't like yourself, nobody else will either... trying to please all others with your behaviour only means that you never get to do what YOU want to do...

Screw others views, it's your own self-image that you have to live with...

and you sound like a dumbarse.

I can give myself no righteousness. i can give myself no significance. i can give myself no power, no leadership, no reason on this earth. that is only given to me by others. the same goes for you, for any of you. my own self image is meaningless. it has no weight, no bearing, it is ephemeral, a smoke in the wind. Only how we are percieved in the eyes of our peers is what determines our worthiness of this life and this earth.

I can give my self righteousness, i can give myself significance, power, reason if i do what *I* think is right... what others think about me... i couldn't care less...

This is my choice, this is how i live, if you don't like it, you don't have to be around me, i probably don't want you around me either...

The ones who are close to me understand this...

But i can understand your insecurity, at your age, how others percieve you is much more important...
 

Walleye

Banned
Dec 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Walleye
yes. very good.

you are not how you view yourself, but how others view you. your judgement and condemnment lies in the eyes of your peers, not yourself.

Exactly.

That's why Jesus taught not to judge others, because in judging others, you condemn yourself. "He who is without sin shall cast the first stone". And since that is no one... :)

im gonna have to write a service pack... i dont beleive in that dont judge others thing. i feel we have the right, nay, the duty to judge others as we see fit.


Well, you can interpret religious teachings however you see fit. Many people do. It is always easier that way. But in the end, you will want people to be compassionate towards you. It is in giving that you will receive. It is a spiritual law that I have never seen fail. That extends to compassion, so don't let your heart grow too hard or too cold to the human condition just yet. We are all weak, we can all make mistakes. Especially the young and easily influenced.

There but for the grace of God go I...

only in a world without compassion will true justice be found.

 

Geekbabe

Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Oct 16, 1999
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www.theshoppinqueen.com
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
...


i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.


nor do i have any intention of reading what sexual practices float your boat.

you may be right. we shall see. i have every intention of not taking part in unnatural and disgusting sex at any part of my life.


What's "unnatural and disgusting" about being erotic within a committed relationship? I might not like Thai food but I don't consider it or people who do disgusting.. it's just something I don't enjoy,why apply shame based labels that can have the negative effect of stifling otherwise enjoyable forms of erotic expression from your lover? Seems like cutting off your nose to spite you face to me.
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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There are some fvcked up ass sexually repressed people on this board. Get help people. Seriously. I am not even trying to be funny. Get help. Damn.
 

Walleye

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Dec 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: SnapIT
"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

The only problem is that they behaved in a manner that got them the reputation as being a "slut", but they do not like being labelled a "slut". No one person gave them that label, they earned it in the eyes of the people that knew them.

Just like some dudes in school acted in such a way that people called them a "troublemaker", but of course they don't like being labelled that way.

If you asked anyone at all who had a bad reputation and asked if they deserved it, of course they'll always say "no". It doesn't mean that they don't deserve it, it just means THEY don't think they deserve it.

yes. very good.

you are not how you view yourself, but how others view you. your judgement and condemnment lies in the eyes of your peers, not yourself.

WOW, you sound like a 14 year old insecure girl....

It IS how you view yourself, THAT is what really matters....

If you don't like yourself, nobody else will either... trying to please all others with your behaviour only means that you never get to do what YOU want to do...

Screw others views, it's your own self-image that you have to live with...

and you sound like a dumbarse.

I can give myself no righteousness. i can give myself no significance. i can give myself no power, no leadership, no reason on this earth. that is only given to me by others. the same goes for you, for any of you. my own self image is meaningless. it has no weight, no bearing, it is ephemeral, a smoke in the wind. Only how we are percieved in the eyes of our peers is what determines our worthiness of this life and this earth.

I can give my self righteousness, i can give myself significance, power, reason if i do what *I* think is right... what others think about me... i couldn't care less...

This is my choice, this is how i live, if you don't like it, you don't have to be around me, i probably don't want you around me either...

The ones who are close to me understand this...

But i can understand your insecurity, at your age, how others percieve you is much more important...

i have no insecurity and my age is meaningless. do not mistake me for a 13 year old girl checking herself in the mirror daily waiting for her tits to grow in.


yiou cannot give yourself righteousness. nor can you give yourself power, significance, or anything else. Only through actions are you judged. then you are granted these things based on your worthiness. i severely doubt you are worthy.


and what i think of myself is meaningless. i can say im worthy or not, that matters not. it is only what you and everyone else says that determines my worthiness.
 

Walleye

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Dec 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: Millennium
There are some fvcked up ass sexually repressed people on this board. Get help people. Seriously. I am not even trying to be funny. Get help. Damn.

thanks. i certainly do bring out the best in others.


there is no such thing as sexual repression in my view. emotion matters not.
 

Walleye

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Dec 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
...


i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.


nor do i have any intention of reading what sexual practices float your boat.

you may be right. we shall see. i have every intention of not taking part in unnatural and disgusting sex at any part of my life.


What's "unnatural and disgusting" about being erotic within a committed relationship? I might not like Thai food but I don't consider it or people who do disgusting.. it's just something I don't enjoy,why apply shame based labels that can have the negative effect of stifling otherwise enjoyable forms of erotic expression from your lover? Seems like cutting off your nose to spite you face to me.

if they partake in those forms of sex, they are deemed unfit to be my lover. and yes, i completely aggree with my statement, and every statement i've made on this board.

 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Millennium
There are some fvcked up ass sexually repressed people on this board. Get help people. Seriously. I am not even trying to be funny. Get help. Damn.

thanks. i certainly do bring out the best in others.


there is no such thing as sexual repression in my view. emotion matters not.

Your view is your view, but my view is that you need help. Badly.
 

Isla

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
...


i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.


nor do i have any intention of reading what sexual practices float your boat.

you may be right. we shall see. i have every intention of not taking part in unnatural and disgusting sex at any part of my life.


What's "unnatural and disgusting" about being erotic within a committed relationship? I might not like Thai food but I don't consider it or people who do disgusting.. it's just something I don't enjoy,why apply shame based labels that can have the negative effect of stifling otherwise enjoyable forms of erotic expression from your lover? Seems like cutting off your nose to spite you face to me.

Geekbabe, this Walleye is way out there. Did you catch his quote, something about 'only in a world without compassion will there be true justice'? Oy, vey.

Bitter, angry, and nihilistic. Not much we can do to change that on a message board. But then again, since he believes that we (including himself, of course!) are just what other people judge us to be, he must not mind that the majority of us are thinking he needs serious help...



 

Walleye

Banned
Dec 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Millennium
There are some fvcked up ass sexually repressed people on this board. Get help people. Seriously. I am not even trying to be funny. Get help. Damn.

thanks. i certainly do bring out the best in others.


there is no such thing as sexual repression in my view. emotion matters not.

Your view is your view, but my view is that you need help. Badly.

okay. no.
 

Isla

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Sep 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
...


i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.


nor do i have any intention of reading what sexual practices float your boat.

you may be right. we shall see. i have every intention of not taking part in unnatural and disgusting sex at any part of my life.


What's "unnatural and disgusting" about being erotic within a committed relationship? I might not like Thai food but I don't consider it or people who do disgusting.. it's just something I don't enjoy,why apply shame based labels that can have the negative effect of stifling otherwise enjoyable forms of erotic expression from your lover? Seems like cutting off your nose to spite you face to me.

if they partake in those forms of sex, they are deemed unfit to be my lover. and yes, i completely aggree with my statement, and every statement i've made on this board.

You are not going to have any lovers for a very long time, so you won't have to worry about it. Like attracts like... and you need to love to be loved.

Good luck!

 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
...


i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.


nor do i have any intention of reading what sexual practices float your boat.

you may be right. we shall see. i have every intention of not taking part in unnatural and disgusting sex at any part of my life.


What's "unnatural and disgusting" about being erotic within a committed relationship? I might not like Thai food but I don't consider it or people who do disgusting.. it's just something I don't enjoy,why apply shame based labels that can have the negative effect of stifling otherwise enjoyable forms of erotic expression from your lover? Seems like cutting off your nose to spite you face to me.

Closed minds that wrap themselves in layers of arbitrary morality are disgusting, imho.
 

Walleye

Banned
Dec 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
...


i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.


nor do i have any intention of reading what sexual practices float your boat.

you may be right. we shall see. i have every intention of not taking part in unnatural and disgusting sex at any part of my life.


What's "unnatural and disgusting" about being erotic within a committed relationship? I might not like Thai food but I don't consider it or people who do disgusting.. it's just something I don't enjoy,why apply shame based labels that can have the negative effect of stifling otherwise enjoyable forms of erotic expression from your lover? Seems like cutting off your nose to spite you face to me.

Geekbabe, this Walleye is way out there. Did you catch his quote, something about 'only in a world without compassion will there be true justice'? Oy, vey.

Bitter, angry, and nihilistic. Not much we can do to change that on a message board. But then again, since he believes that we (including himself, of course!) are just what other people judge us to be, he must not mind that the majority of us are thinking he needs serious help...


you cannot determine my actions, you can only judge me.
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
28,558
3
81
Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
...


i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.


nor do i have any intention of reading what sexual practices float your boat.

you may be right. we shall see. i have every intention of not taking part in unnatural and disgusting sex at any part of my life.


What's "unnatural and disgusting" about being erotic within a committed relationship? I might not like Thai food but I don't consider it or people who do disgusting.. it's just something I don't enjoy,why apply shame based labels that can have the negative effect of stifling otherwise enjoyable forms of erotic expression from your lover? Seems like cutting off your nose to spite you face to me.

Geekbabe, this Walleye is way out there. Did you catch his quote, something about 'only in a world without compassion will there be true justice'? Oy, vey.

Bitter, angry, and nihilistic. Not much we can do to change that on a message board. But then again, since he believes that we (including himself, of course!) are just what other people judge us to be, he must not mind that the majority of us are thinking he needs serious help...

Exactly. I don't think his view is very healthy.
 

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Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
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Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.


nor do i have any intention of reading what sexual practices float your boat.

you may be right. we shall see. i have every intention of not taking part in unnatural and disgusting sex at any part of my life.


What's "unnatural and disgusting" about being erotic within a committed relationship? I might not like Thai food but I don't consider it or people who do disgusting.. it's just something I don't enjoy,why apply shame based labels that can have the negative effect of stifling otherwise enjoyable forms of erotic expression from your lover? Seems like cutting off your nose to spite you face to me.

if they partake in those forms of sex, they are deemed unfit to be my lover. and yes, i completely aggree with my statement, and every statement i've made on this board.

You are not going to have any lovers for a very long time, so you won't have to worry about it. Like attracts like... and you need to love to be loved.

Good luck!

then i guess that is a curse i have to bear.

 

Isla

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Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.


Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread :p



I'm not about to get into a discussion of which sexual practices float my boat around here, I'm crazy,not stupid :)

I will say though, that imho as a love deepens,the desire to share yourself more fully with your lover usually does too,including the willingness to try things you might not have considered before.


nor do i have any intention of reading what sexual practices float your boat.

you may be right. we shall see. i have every intention of not taking part in unnatural and disgusting sex at any part of my life.


What's "unnatural and disgusting" about being erotic within a committed relationship? I might not like Thai food but I don't consider it or people who do disgusting.. it's just something I don't enjoy,why apply shame based labels that can have the negative effect of stifling otherwise enjoyable forms of erotic expression from your lover? Seems like cutting off your nose to spite you face to me.

if they partake in those forms of sex, they are deemed unfit to be my lover. and yes, i completely aggree with my statement, and every statement i've made on this board.

You are not going to have any lovers for a very long time, so you won't have to worry about it. Like attracts like... and you need to love to be loved.

Good luck!

then i guess that is a curse i have to bear.

Sounds like a self fullfilling prophecy to me. Where the heck is Moonbeam or Linuxboy when we need them? :D