Modonna/Whore Syndrome -- Does every man suffer from it?

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: Dezign

That's just it. There is no "slut", and there is no "lady". That's binary, right there. That's an inability to see women as women, as opposed to "sluts" and "classy women". People change, women change, and they shouldn't be categorized as such.

No, I disagree with that. While people DO change, it's how they act the majority of the time which defines them.

I've met some pure sluts before, no doubt about it. No class at all, and they didn't seem to care.


Onlookers will define a person. If people look at someone and say, "that's a nice person", then you're considered a nice person. On the other hand, if you act a way which makes people say "that's a trashy person", then you're widely considered a trashy person.

Nobody is pure saint or sinner, but you do make your own track record. How you act the majority of the time will determine if people see you as a slut that occasionally acts nice, or a nice person than can occasionally acts slutty. It's how you act, and how well you pull it off.

Well, at the right time with the right person, all girls are slutty... at other times with other persons, all girls are nice...

"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Isla
(Thank you, Sting (St Augustine in Hell) )

ooo, another sting fan

 

[Walleye]

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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: SnapIT
"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

The only problem is that they behaved in a manner that got them the reputation as being a "slut", but they do not like being labelled a "slut". No one person gave them that label, they earned it in the eyes of the people that knew them.

Just like some dudes in school acted in such a way that people called them a "troublemaker", but of course they don't like being labelled that way.

If you asked anyone at all who had a bad reputation and asked if they deserved it, of course they'll always say "no". It doesn't mean that they don't deserve it, it just means THEY don't think they deserve it.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

And what is an unnatural position?

Out of respect for women, get rid of those thoughts, most women don't want to have sex in one position and nothing else for the rest of their lives... they are just as sexual as us men...

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

The first three lines were like "oh well he'll get out of it", but not jerking at 17? Not kidding: Get help. Watch porn or something. You are seriously sexually frustrated and everyone here will agree with me.

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: SnapIT
"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

The only problem is that they behaved in a manner that got them the reputation as being a "slut", but they do not like being labelled a "slut". No one person gave them that label, they earned it in the eyes of the people that knew them.

Just like some dudes in school acted in such a way that people called them a "troublemaker", but of course they don't like being labelled that way.

If you asked anyone at all who had a bad reputation and asked if they deserved it, of course they'll always say "no". It doesn't mean that they don't deserve it, it just means THEY don't think they deserve it.

yes. very good.

you are not how you view yourself, but how others view you. your judgement and condemnment lies in the eyes of your peers, not yourself.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

Sounds to me like you're hardly an expert on human sexuality then..

So what defines a "natural" vs "unnatural" position? Your religious views..?

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

The first three lines were like "oh well he'll get out of it", but not jerking at 17? Not kidding: Get help. Watch porn or something. You are seriously sexually frustrated and everyone here will agree with me.

that's cause almost everyone here masturbates... i feel it's morrally wrong.

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: Walleye
yes. very good.

you are not how you view yourself, but how others view you. your judgement and condemnment lies in the eyes of your peers, not yourself.

Exactly.

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

Sounds to me like you're hardly an expert on human sexuality then..

So what defines a "natural" vs "unnatural" position? Your religious views..?

natural position to me is any variant where the penis still remains in the vagina.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

The first three lines were like "oh well he'll get out of it", but not jerking at 17? Not kidding: Get help. Watch porn or something. You are seriously sexually frustrated and everyone here will agree with me.

that's cause almost everyone here masturbates... i feel it's morrally wrong.

That's your perogative, but are you going to wait until marriage? Hell even _I_ said I'd wait until marriage when I was a teenager. God, what in god's name was I thinking?

Whether it's morally wrong or not you're gonna have a piss poor sex life if you don't start getting a little action now and if it's not from a girl (which is fine) it should at least be righty. Honest!

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Walleye
...


i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

Sounds to me like you're hardly an expert on human sexuality then..

So what defines a "natural" vs "unnatural" position? Your religious views..?

natural position to me is any variant where the penis still remains in the vagina.

What? if it's not in the vagina it's not really sex, so how is it natural just because it's in the vagina? I can picture some funky positions that are quite "unnatural" and it still stays in there!

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
What? if it's not in the vagina it's not really sex,

I think a lot of people will disagree there...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: SnapIT
"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

The only problem is that they behaved in a manner that got them the reputation as being a "slut", but they do not like being labelled a "slut". No one person gave them that label, they earned it in the eyes of the people that knew them.

Just like some dudes in school acted in such a way that people called them a "troublemaker", but of course they don't like being labelled that way.

If you asked anyone at all who had a bad reputation and asked if they deserved it, of course they'll always say "no". It doesn't mean that they don't deserve it, it just means THEY don't think they deserve it.

I understand what you mean, but to me, what a girl has done before i meet her doesn't matter at all, so i don't care about reputations...

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: Skoorb
What? if it's not in the vagina it's not really sex,

I think a lot of people will disagree there...

Well clinton agrees with me IMO if it's not in the vagina it ain't sex. Sure it may be called "oral sex", but you're a virgin unless you've put mister happy in his female counterpart.

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

The first three lines were like "oh well he'll get out of it", but not jerking at 17? Not kidding: Get help. Watch porn or something. You are seriously sexually frustrated and everyone here will agree with me.

that's cause almost everyone here masturbates... i feel it's morrally wrong.

That's your perogative, but are you going to wait until marriage? Hell even _I_ said I'd wait until marriage when I was a teenager. God, what in god's name was I thinking?

Whether it's morally wrong or not you're gonna have a piss poor sex life if you don't start getting a little action now and if it's not from a girl (which is fine) it should at least be righty. Honest!

i never said wait till marriage, but at least wait till your current partner you wouldnt mind spending the rest of your life with. that's my opinion.


and whatever on the sex life thing.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: SnapIT
"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

The only problem is that they behaved in a manner that got them the reputation as being a "slut", but they do not like being labelled a "slut". No one person gave them that label, they earned it in the eyes of the people that knew them.

Just like some dudes in school acted in such a way that people called them a "troublemaker", but of course they don't like being labelled that way.

If you asked anyone at all who had a bad reputation and asked if they deserved it, of course they'll always say "no". It doesn't mean that they don't deserve it, it just means THEY don't think they deserve it.

I understand what you mean, but to me, what a girl has done before i meet her doesn't matter at all, so i don't care about reputations...

Even if she's been the target of a bukkake party? BTW I know the term from my brother who lives in Japan, that's all

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

Sounds to me like you're hardly an expert on human sexuality then..

So what defines a "natural" vs "unnatural" position? Your religious views..?

natural position to me is any variant where the penis still remains in the vagina.

What? if it's not in the vagina it's not really sex, so how is it natural just because it's in the vagina? I can picture some funky positions that are quite "unnatural" and it still stays in there!

alright, *MOST* variants where the penis remains in the vagina...

 

[StormRider]

I still can't get over the fact that a Mod defended one of my threads as being mature....

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: Walleye
yes. very good.

you are not how you view yourself, but how others view you. your judgement and condemnment lies in the eyes of your peers, not yourself.

Exactly.

That's why Jesus taught not to judge others, because in judging others, you condemn yourself. "He who is without sin shall cast the first stone". And since that is no one...

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Walleye
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i wont have sex in an unnatural position with a girl i really like out of respect for her. it's just that simple.


and i wont have sex with any girl i dont respect and love... it's just that simple.


i'd also say i am still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never kissed a girl, and am 17 years old... and no, im not gay.

EDIT: and no, i dont masturbate, either.

Respect? sexual desire and experiementation within a loving relationship is not only normal,it's part of what makes up a satisfying life.Showing yourself,communicating what you want to your lover only makes the love you share richer!

anal and oral sex imo, are disgusting, filthy, and not at all necessary to a happy and healthy relationship.

damnit, now im gonna have to write a service pack to my my beleifs thread

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: SnapIT
"No class at all, and they didn't seem to care" Why should they? They are the way they want to be, not putting on an act or anything, why should they care about what you or anyone else thinks?

The only problem is that they behaved in a manner that got them the reputation as being a "slut", but they do not like being labelled a "slut". No one person gave them that label, they earned it in the eyes of the people that knew them.

Just like some dudes in school acted in such a way that people called them a "troublemaker", but of course they don't like being labelled that way.

If you asked anyone at all who had a bad reputation and asked if they deserved it, of course they'll always say "no". It doesn't mean that they don't deserve it, it just means THEY don't think they deserve it.

yes. very good.

you are not how you view yourself, but how others view you. your judgement and condemnment lies in the eyes of your peers, not yourself.

WOW, you sound like a 14 year old insecure girl....

It IS how you view yourself, THAT is what really matters....

If you don't like yourself, nobody else will either... trying to please all others with your behaviour only means that you never get to do what YOU want to do...

Screw others views, it's your own self-image that you have to live with...

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: StormRider
I still can't get over the fact that a Mod defended one of my threads as being mature....

LOL!

Your threads are, at the very least... interesting.