Modern home materials & technologies discussion thread

[Kaido]

FlexScreen: (flexible window screen)

FlexScreen - The World's First and Only Flexible Window Screen

FlexScreen - The World's First and Only Flexible Window Screen

flexscreen.com

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[Kaido]

Blum Space Step: (slide-out toe-kick drawer step)

Hadn't seen this before, pretty great idea!

SPACE STEP

Take storage to new levels: Use the furniture plinth to create extra storage space and provide a step for easy access to higher levels.

www.blum.com

 

[Greenman]

Not a fan of the eight inch toe kick.

 

[Kaido]

Not a fan of the eight inch toe kick.

It's weird looking...but practical! Plus it slides in to hide, which I like.

 

[Greenman]

My issue's are that it's not an attractive detail, has limited functionality, and would add substantial expense to the cabinets. It certainly has utility for someone around 4' tall, but for the average person it's budget that could be better used elsewhere.

 

[jmagg]

I worked with a midget bricklayer who kicked a milk crate down the line to reach the work. The guy was fast and neat. I extend the same system to my 5 ft wife.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Blum Space Step: (slide-out toe-kick drawer step)

Hadn't seen this before, pretty great idea!

SPACE STEP

Take storage to new levels: Use the furniture plinth to create extra storage space and provide a step for easy access to higher levels.

www.blum.com

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As a short guy, I need this! Or I can just keep using a kitchen chair or climb on the counters.

 

[Kaido]

Murphy Door: (can't remember if I posted this before)

Hidden Doors | Hidden Bookcase Door | Secret Bookshelf Door

We made your dream of a hidden door, like a hidden bookcase door, come true. Our secret doors and hardware bring security and wonder to any room in your home.

murphydoor.com

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7266029151956634922

 

[herm0016]

I am getting a quote for this hydronic floor system. I will report the costs.
https://heat-sheet.com/heat-sheet/

I found an online price for the R10 product.
https://hughydronics.com/products/heat-sheet

is this only for topping with concrete or litecrete?

I like the look of the plywood ones with the metal reflector.

Hydronic Radiant Floor Heating Panels | Warmboard, Inc.

Made from the highest quality wood products and thick, pure aluminum, our radiant heating panels ensure satisfaction among architects, builders and homeowners.

www.warmboard.com

 

[skyking]

that was for the basement slab. I don't want the added stiffness that the warm board overlay does.
I want to keep a live floor, so I will do a staple up from below the subfloor.
I'll get you a link.

 

[A///]

Now this is the thread of dreams. Old post but tyvm @Kaido

 

[herm0016]

that was for the basement slab. I don't want the added stiffness that the warm board overlay does.
I want to keep a live floor, so I will do a staple up from below the subfloor.
I'll get you a link.

Their new product is not an overlay, its subfloor by itself. check the modulus, but it's probably similar to standard stuff. Could save some labor and should be more even and have better transfer to the floor covering than staple up, even with the reflectors.

We diverge on the "live" floor thing. I'm all about building the structure stiff as and manipulating the feel by the finish schedule

 

[Greenman]

Their new product is not an overlay, its subfloor by itself. check the modulus, but it's probably similar to standard stuff. Could save some labor and should be more even and have better transfer to the floor covering than staple up, even with the reflectors.

We diverge on the "live" floor thing. I'm all about building the structure stiff as and manipulating the feel by the finish schedule

I priced out a product like this a few years back for a project I was doing. The cost was up in the absurd range. We ended up doing conventional tubes in 2" of concrete.
I like the concept in that it's a simple installation with a lot of flexibility.

 

[skyking]

Their new product is not an overlay, its subfloor by itself. check the modulus, but it's probably similar to standard stuff. Could save some labor and should be more even and have better transfer to the floor covering than staple up, even with the reflectors.

We diverge on the "live" floor thing. I'm all about building the structure stiff as and manipulating the feel by the finish schedule

Neither one of us has rheumatoid arthritis in our feet and notices just a short time on concrete, so there is that.

I took a look at the T&G subfloor.
I found this in the manual:
"There are several different types of vinyl flooring,and all can be used with Warmboard.Increasing in popularity is the use of Luxury Vinyl Flooring (LVF) over Warmboard. This product emulates the look of natural materials like wood or stone, is a very durable and could be a great option for areas expecting a lot of wear and tear.We recommend installing a substrate underlayment between the Warmboard and the vinyl finish floor.Suggested Underlayments of 1/4" or 1/2" interior plywood or OSB 1/4" or 1/2" tile backerboard (bathrooms, kitchens)We encourage a 3/4" thick finish floor assembly."

That is too much dicking around after paying ~$300 a sheet for their fancy subfloor. It is a better product for somebody doing tile or hardwood. We are doing LVP for sure.
What they are looking to do is have a diffusion layer above the warm board to even out the heat, be it tile or wood.
In our situation a staple up system is going to do the trick. It uses the subfloor itself to provide the diffusion layer.
Radiantec has an extensive document library describing the different methods.
https://www.radiantec.com/about-radiant-heating/our-heating-systems/

I may go with their thinwall 7/8" tube at 1 per bay, or do 2 per bay with common 1/2" pex.
The bottom edge of the I-Joist flange is the perfect distance for applying the reflective material. I can put that all up before finishing my ductwork and plumbing in the same bays.
The upstairs floor will get insulated because it gets finished, but I can experiment with the main floor because the basement is unfinished.
EDIT: I got a quote for 31K for 2625 sq ft of that subfloor.!!
$377.90 per 4x8 sheet, plus freight.

 

[Greenman]

Neither one of us has rheumatoid arthritis in our feet and notices just a short time on concrete, so there is that.

I took a look at the T&G subfloor.
I found this in the manual:
"There are several different types of vinyl flooring,and all can be used with Warmboard.Increasing in popularity is the use of Luxury Vinyl Flooring (LVF) over Warmboard. This product emulates the look of natural materials like wood or stone, is a very durable and could be a great option for areas expecting a lot of wear and tear.We recommend installing a substrate underlayment between the Warmboard and the vinyl finish floor.Suggested Underlayments of 1/4" or 1/2" interior plywood or OSB 1/4" or 1/2" tile backerboard (bathrooms, kitchens)We encourage a 3/4" thick finish floor assembly."

That is too much dicking around after paying ~$300 a sheet for their fancy subfloor. It is a better product for somebody doing tile or hardwood. We are doing LVP for sure.
What they are looking to do is have a diffusion layer above the warm board to even out the heat, be it tile or wood.
In our situation a staple up system is going to do the trick. It uses the subfloor itself to provide the diffusion layer.
Radiantec has an extensive document library describing the different methods.
https://www.radiantec.com/about-radiant-heating/our-heating-systems/

I may go with their thinwall 7/8" tube at 1 per bay, or do 2 per bay with common 1/2" pex.
The bottom edge of the I-Joist flange is the perfect distance for applying the reflective material. I can put that all up before finishing my ductwork and plumbing in the same bays.
The upstairs floor will get insulated because it gets finished, but I can experiment with the main floor because the basement is unfinished.
EDIT: I got a quote for 31K for 2625 sq ft of that subfloor.!!
$377.90 per 4x8 sheet, plus freight.

At that price you'd be cheaper to use 1 1/8 plywood decking and hire a couple young fellows with routers to roll your own.

 

[skyking]

At that price you'd be cheaper to use 1 1/8 plywood decking and hire a couple young fellows with routers to roll your own.

Radiantec has a manual for cutting your own overlay to put around the tubing, so you can retrofit it.
https://www.radiantec.com/wp-conten..._Heat_Within_Subfloor_Installation_Manual.pdf

 

[herm0016]

I'm surprised its that expensive.

 

[skyking]

yeah it was an eye opener.
When you are dealing with a contractor custom home at ~$200 a ft, that 11 bucks more a foot is quite a bit and you still need the hydronics.

 

[Kaido]

Refrigerated pantry:

RootCellar Concepts | The Premier Refrigerated Pantry For Your Home

RootCellar is the premier refrigerated pantry designed for homes and homeowner lifestyles. An efficiently sized walk-in refrigerator that integrates with your kitchen design and decor. When it's time to build or renovate, no other appliance or amenity offers more function or convenience.

www.rootcellarconcepts.com

Absolutely brilliant:

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Good article:

North Shore’s RootCellar Makes Residential Walk-In Refrigerators

In three decades as general manager of the Danversport Yacht Club, Paul Delorenzo became very familiar with the walk-in refrigerators and freezers in the club’s restaurant. They were ideal for both chilling and organizing the

www.nshoremag.com

Options include:

1. All-fridge, all-freezer, or combo (freezer door inside). Whisper-quiet operation & energy-efficient.
2. Touchless automatic pocket door. Walk in, dump drink packs on the floor, dump food on the shelves, put your whole crockpot or Instant Pot on a shelf, walk out.
3. Customization of size, features, finishes, shelving, lighting, accessories, and pantry door veneer to match doors & cabinetry. You can go down to like 7' x 8', but the common size is 8' x 10'; no limit on maximize size. Pan-tilt camera also available to check your inventory while shopping.

Downside is the average price is $30k installed. Really, I think this should be standard for every home. Just phenomenal. Solves soooooo many accessibility problems.

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[herm0016]

30k, damn. so a bedroom or a fridge.

could be done way way cheaper. its on the table for our garage when we get around to fixing that up, but i would be building my own box, wire shelves from HD and a couple window AC units and a temp controller.

Refrigerated pantry:




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[Kaido]

30k, dang so a bedroom or a fridge.

could be done way way cheaper. its on the table for our garage when we get around to fixing that up, but i would be building my own box, wire shelves from HD and a couple window AC units and a temp controller.

Yeah, DIY is what I initially looked into. It's called the CoolBot, which is a custom window A/C controller to build your own walk-in fridge in a shed or room or whatever:

Revolutionary Walk-In Coolers | The CoolBot by Store It Cold

Our revolutionary walk-in coolers have been featured by TED, USAID, Feed the Future, and many more. Check our affordable, reliable refrigeration solutions.

www.storeitcold.com

$419 & includes an app. Unfortunately, it only does refrigeration. However, it's pretty budget-friendly & uses 40% less electricity than a traditional walk-in fridge. You can use a window A/C unit or a mini-split system (compatible units listed below). You can build your own walk-in or a mobile trailer. They also sell walk-in kits:

Walk-In Coolers | The CoolBot by Store It Cold

CoolBot's reliable and affordable walk-in coolers can help you save thousands of dollars. Check us out!

www.storeitcold.com

TONS of uses (restaurants, home fridges, meat processing, mortuary, flowers, etc.). The benefits of the RootCellar version ($$$) is that they handle the whole process, customize all of the options for your preferences, can add a freezer unit (not available with the Coolbot), add a hands-free automatic pocket door for convenient entry & exit, etc. Right now, I have a 20cf upright freezer, which was like $900 delivered & installed from Home Depot, which I'm pretty happy with haha. But one can dream!!

Build your own cheese cave at home lol: