Ummm....you don't grind in EVE and that's one of the reasons I like it so much. Well actually you can grind but you aren't forced to. If you want you can make your living by killing players in low security systems for example. Or you can be a market tycoon and find stuff at low prices and bring them to another system where they command a higher amount. If anything EVE is the anti-grind game of all MMOs.
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Ummm....you don't grind in EVE and that's one of the reasons I like it so much. Well actually you can grind but you aren't forced to. If you want you can make your living by killing players in low security systems for example. Or you can be a market tycoon and find stuff at low prices and bring them to another system where they command a higher amount. If anything EVE is the anti-grind game of all MMOs.
bloodandsoil
Member
I prefer MMORPGs that are difficult and dangerous. A game that when you walk out the city walls at night, you are seriously taking your life into your own hands...
A game with serious death penalties...
A game with realistic PvP...
A game in which leveling is very difficult and you spend quite a bit of time at each level and you actually feel like you've earned something when you level up...
A game where there aren't millions of magic items floating around. Where magic and magic-items are somewhat rare, expensive, and controlled...
A game where the economy is poor, like you are actually living in a harsh world of the dark ages...not an economy with gold flowing in the streets...
A game where the monsters are devious, unpredictable, and dangerous...
A game with serious death penalties...
A game with realistic PvP...
A game in which leveling is very difficult and you spend quite a bit of time at each level and you actually feel like you've earned something when you level up...
A game where there aren't millions of magic items floating around. Where magic and magic-items are somewhat rare, expensive, and controlled...
A game where the economy is poor, like you are actually living in a harsh world of the dark ages...not an economy with gold flowing in the streets...
A game where the monsters are devious, unpredictable, and dangerous...
Bateluer
Lifer
You and I have similar outlooks on MMOs. Unfortunately, those aspects tend to piss people off, particularly, the younger crowd. Thus, subscriptions drop, word of mouth spreads, and subs drop even more.
You second to last statement is of particular note too. Most MMOs start you off rather poor. In EQ2, for example, when it first launched, if you had a single gold piece to your name, you were living large. Fast forward to last August, when I stopped playing, and I had roughly 7 plat and was considered poor. All MMOs feature inflation, the longer the game is out, the worse it gets. I think a lot of developers underestimate the need for money sinks. Early in the MMO's life, you can let the players keep and spend more of their coins, but as the MMO ages, I think more severe money sinks need to be added. If people are walking around with obscene amounts of money at lower levels, the devs need to remove the coins from the game somehow, or inflation skyrockets.
Traveling in EVE is a grind??? Oooookay. Sorry but I fail to see that. If you're not at war with another corporation or you're not flying through low security systems you can just set the autopilot up and do other stuff while your ship flies. If you fly in low sec or 0.0 sec (where I currently live) traveling is anything but a grind. During our last freighter operation for my alliance it got a little hairy a couple of times but we made it to empire and back to our space intact. Or if you don't want to travel at all you can jumpclone once every 24 hours. Again, I fail to see the grind here.
http://www.darkfallonline.com
It's been in development for a long time, but it matches those criteria (and has really been looking good in the last year).
Schadenfroh
Elite Member
Darkfall online is vaporware, like duke nukem forever.
crownjules
Diamond Member
WoW has travel grind - traveling across 3 zones to get an item for a quest isn't a grind? Stop being selectively critical. EVE has no more or less travel grind then your average MMO. Once you settle into the game, you generally aren't traveling more then a few systems away unless you decide to be an Empire trader or your corporation is on the warpath.
It was a little worse when you couldn't warp directly to the jumpgates, but that was fixed with Revelations.
It was a little worse when you couldn't warp directly to the jumpgates, but that was fixed with Revelations.
pontifex
Lifer
hmm...i played again last night and i think i may have spoken too soon in my 1st post.
its extremely boring. quests suck, animations suck. there's only like 1 attack animation for the weapon i'm using. graphics are annoying and ugly. it has the same problem as EQ - everything is shiny. too many pastel colors, it looks like i'm living in taffee land. combat is slow and boring.
Traveling can take multiple hours, and the game is the definition of gridning.
There is very little pvp, except of course the mass griefing of newbs, which is fun for about 5 minutes.
The only time ive ever had fun is with wars, and that was a week out of 4 months of play.
Mining isnt a grind...
Missions arent grinds...
Farming isnt a grind...
Travelling that takes hours isnt a grind...
Hauling is essentially travelling...
I really dont have to say much else, to say eve isnt one big giant grind with occasional pvp and lots of lag would be undermining the definition of the game 😛
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