Been playing the Slugger and T82 today. Got my T82 crew up to 95% trained. Hoping to get them to 100% and started on camo training before the next patch goes live. Should be able to do that. The new American TD line splits off from the T82 supposedly. I'll use the T82 crew to run down that line. Suppose to be one more turreted TD (T25) after the slugger then it leads to the T-95. On the new line it goes T82, then splits off to the M8a1, T49, M18 Hellcat, T25-2, which are all turreted TDs, then goes onto the T28 Prototype which does not have turret., then back to the T30 which does have a turret. That is old info though so not sure how accurate that is. Anyone got newer info? I thought there was a newer tech map out lately but cannot find it now. Linky be nice if you have it. Thanks in advance.
Right, so I'm discussing my experience with a tier 6 arty (which takes about as long to get to as a tier 8-9 tank), and you're discussing you complete lack of any recent arty experience. Got it.
How about you play up to at least a tier 6 arty, then you can make comments that make sense. Right now, you're talking out of your...
Sure, I can buy a S-51 tomorrow or borrow my friend's SU-8 for a ride again. Or does the SU-8 not count because its not tier 6? Would playing a S-51 make my statements more credible or will you come up with more "non-arty players are just butthurt" general statements?
Not sure I want to spend free exp to upgrade a tank I won't play much just to prove you wrong though. I'm sure you'll just make more excuses.
edit: Remembered I had the priest researched but never bought, so I'll buy it to test it out.
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Elcs
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Current TD tree stays as it is afaik. Branches off at T82(M8A1) and Wolverine (M18 Hellcat) (Got ~15k on my Wolverine atm, doing dailies to get me up to around 25k in patch prep)
New TD line: M8A1 -> T49 -> M18 Hellcat -> T-25-2 -> T28P (has a 286 degree turn turret) -> T30
That is new information provided by the two videos I linked to in this thread. (One was English and all about new maps and US Tanks/TD's. The other, a general update thread which contained Physics and US TD's)
EDIT: Maps + TD's showcase and Physics + TD's + stuff (in Russian)
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I've read that the IS-4 is going to be moved to a tier 10 tank in 7.3. Do you know if there is any truth to that Elcs? If there is then I need to get serious playing my IS so I can get me a free tier 10 tank. That'll save me a bunch of credits as those tier 10 tanks cost way too damn much.
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yea the is-4 is going to be tierX, everyone, well russian tank players have been waiting forever holding onto their kv, kv3 and is4's lol, like me
You are getting 2 free tanks though if you hold onto the KV and KV-3 correct? Are the KV and KV3 staying tier 5 and 6, or are they being moved around? I also assume they are going to buff the IS4 when it becomes a tier X. I guess at the very least more HP and maybe a better gun.
You do get two tanks if you own the KV and KV-3. No idea on the new tier arrangements. And I would assume the IS4 will get a buff in HP and access to the BL-10.
if you have the kv, you will get the kv2 ( i believe they are both going to be tier 5 with the kv2 leading to the s-51, and kv lets you split to is4 or is7 line)
if you have a kv-3, you will get a new tier 6, as the kv-3 is moving to tier 7
so yea 2 free tanks
http://overlord-wot.blogspot.com/2011/04/full-tech-trees-revised-and-improved.html
no no no no, IS4 will get HP buff but NOT the BL-10. That'd be insane!! If anything I heard they're going to nerf the S-70 on the IS4 to make it shoot faster but do less damage. But there's been a lot of rumors bouncing around so I'm not too sure how that goes. The IS-4 does not need a better gun, the S-70 is what the IS-7 has and it's a great tier 10 gun.
I believe KV-3 is being replaced with something (T-10 or something?) and the original tank is being bumped up a tier to tier 7, and KV will be split into 2 tanks (KV1 and 2) and they'll both be tier 5.
Speaking of which I'm having a hard time fighting IS-7s head on. It seems like most of the old places I used to shoot are now seemingly impenetrable after the normalization change... and even before the normalization I didn't have too many chances to fight them head on anyway. But lately I've been seeing a lot more IS-7s so I need some tips!
I know the best advice is to shoot it in the side or in the back or to let arty blow it up, but I'm usually the one with the big tank so I have to at least try to fight them head on while others flank. With the S-70 on the IS4 I have a 50-50 chance of penetrating the front if the guy angles his tank. Should I be fighting it the same way as an IS3 (aka shoot the flat side of the pike nose)? The little hatch in the middle of the hull doesn't seem to be a weak spot and I haven't found any real soft spots on the turret. Also I don't think there are any real protruding hatches I can shoot at from the front. The lower glacis is pretty angled and it's impossible to penetrate if he's facehugging you.
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If he angles his tank isn't he giving you a pretty flat surface to shoot on the shoulder area of it?
I thought the IS7 was like the IS3 and the armor is most effective when the tank faces you directly and keeps that pike pointing you.
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I have not heard when the Russian Heavy Lines are due for a change. This could be 7.3 but we're talking about Wargaming and as Feburary disappears, we have had no public test server announcement about 7.2 yet.
IS-4 becomes Tier 10. I'm going to guess that it will have a bit of an armour buff and/or reduction in weakspots and potentially an RoF boost. From what I'm assuming, the IS-4 will be the Russian Maus and the IS-7 will remain the heavy medium hybrid.
KV as it stands becomes the KV-1 and KV-2, both tier 5 tanks (which doesn't make much sense but hey, it's wargaming!) and the KV-3 moves to Tier 7, leaving the T-150 as Tier 6.
If you have the KV with stock turret in the garage, you get the KV-1. If you have the KV with KV-2 turret then you get the KV-1 and KV-2. IIRC, in the unlikely event that you have the KV-2 turret researched but not equipped, you have the KV-2 unlocked but obviously not given for free.
If you have a KV-3 in your garage, you get a T-150 and a T7 KV-3.
If the IS-4 gets the BL-10, I'm voting for the T110E5 to get the top JagdTiger 12.8 gun.
IS-4 becomes Tier 10. I'm going to guess that it will have a bit of an armour buff and/or reduction in weakspots and potentially an RoF boost. From what I'm assuming, the IS-4 will be the Russian Maus and the IS-7 will remain the heavy medium hybrid.
KV as it stands becomes the KV-1 and KV-2, both tier 5 tanks (which doesn't make much sense but hey, it's wargaming!) and the KV-3 moves to Tier 7, leaving the T-150 as Tier 6.
If you have the KV with stock turret in the garage, you get the KV-1. If you have the KV with KV-2 turret then you get the KV-1 and KV-2. IIRC, in the unlikely event that you have the KV-2 turret researched but not equipped, you have the KV-2 unlocked but obviously not given for free.
If you have a KV-3 in your garage, you get a T-150 and a T7 KV-3.
If the IS-4 gets the BL-10, I'm voting for the T110E5 to get the top JagdTiger 12.8 gun.
This guy is using an E100 with the 150mm gun. The S-70 should have better results. But I think there is a spot on the front on the left side, right side facing you. I have had some luck shooting that are even with the long 105 on the KT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F67gLk8OTbE&feature=player_embedded
But the IS7 is a tough one to crack. Fast, big gun, and tough armor head on.
The front is really angled regardless of how you shoot at it. If he's angling yes, it does present a flatter surface but I'm not having great success penning it. I'll try looking at the armor some more, maybe I should save up some money and finally get the IS-7 myself so I can see where all the holes are when I get penned.
Edit: will look at video when I get home. I think the "shoulder" is where I've been shooting but not too sure.
is-7 is a bitch to pen from the front. lower plate is so extremely angled its a crap shoot to pen. the best bet i've found is to shoot directly at the seam, even then it misses more often than not. i always try to get to one side of it and hit right at the headlights. that's the only place i've been able to pen consistantly. from head on, its almost impossible unless you can hit the drivers hatch
The front is really angled regardless of how you shoot at it. If he's angling yes, it does present a flatter surface but I'm not having great success penning it. I'll try looking at the armor some more, maybe I should save up some money and finally get the IS-7 myself so I can see where all the holes are when I get penned.
Edit: will look at video when I get home. I think the "shoulder" is where I've been shooting but not too sure.
definitely get it, imo it is THE tier X to get due to the new armor scheme, i've been able to easily take out e100's and maus's 1 on 1 since the patch. as long as you are directly facing them
Is the drivers hatch still vulnerable? I think that last patch cleaned up that stuff. I used to be able to penetrate the IS4 drivers hatch reliably with the long 88. Even had a face hugging battle with one and almost killed him in a Tiger. Took him from 100 to 8%. But now even the long 105 is iffy at best. The IS7 I have tried several times without any penetrations with the long 105. Maybe the 128 on the E75 will do the trick?
The front is really angled regardless of how you shoot at it. If he's angling yes, it does present a flatter surface but I'm not having great success penning it. I'll try looking at the armor some more, maybe I should save up some money and finally get the IS-7 myself so I can see where all the holes are when I get penned.
Edit: will look at video when I get home. I think the "shoulder" is where I've been shooting but not too sure.
Get it, right now it is the Tier 10 to get. I think it goes IS7, Maus, E-100\T30.
I am going into the E100 becauise I dont feel like starting over and it is a viable tank. And hoping down the road it will get a buff to its lower glacis.
i haven't had any issues pen'ng the is-4 drivers hatch in any of my tanks, that can pen it i mean. i think the armor change weakened the is-4 if anything.
e100 since i grinded for it, i pray it gets a buff LOL it is horrible against maus/is-7's
e100 since i grinded for it, i pray it gets a buff LOL it is horrible against maus/is-7's
Yup, still get a bunch of holes on my IS-4 driver's hatch and lower glacis. If you're talking about the IS7, I wasn't ever able to penetrate the IS-7 driver's hatch(?) even before the armor groups though. (there's a little hatch on the front) And I think the seam is rated at around 240~ ish before the patch and it was REALLY thick compared to IS3's, which is something like 120 and it was flat.
The 128 on the E-75 I found is sort of a crapshoot on the IS-4 armor from a distance, but if I'm close enough I can shoot the shoulders reliably for a pen.
Also will try to shoot headlights the next time. I've never really survived a head on collision with an IS-7 as they're usually backed up by a bunch of other tanks.
yea pretty much, it's amazingly shitty w/o gold rounds. the only time my eyes light up is when there are other e100's or T30s on the other team. if it's an is-7 or maus (less so the maus) i cry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M4A4-AMX-13-latrun-2.jpg
lol what kind of horribly bred abomination tank is that?!
lol what kind of horribly bred abomination tank is that?!
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I'm staying at E75 with that line. I just can't force myself to get the E100, I've taken them 1v1 with my E75 and I just don't fear them.
Instead saving the credits for the IS4 for when it buffs to tier 10.
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