[MMO] World of Tanks

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I got my PzKwIV now.
And replaced the stock gun with a 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43, upgraded to biggest engine..and I got 3 kills today in that tank.
first time I move around the battelfield not fearing being spotted anymore.So for now I focues on mixing up battles, learnign the different vlasses and tanks to know.

T1 = LeitchTracktor
T2 = PzKwII
T3 = PzKwIII A
T4 = PzKwIII J (so hating the PzKw38nA that I need to get rid if it)
T5 = PzKw IV.
T6 = Still thinking...need to learni the PzKwIV better to know first)

Any words on the value of cammo nets, optics and vents?
How much of a difference dows these make....and is my "money" best spent elsewhere?

every tank i play gets the ventilation and rammer for a 26% improvement in reload speed, and coated optics for about 500m view.
 

Craig234

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every tank i play gets the ventilation and rammer for a 26% improvement in reload speed, and coated optics for about 500m view.

26%? The info on forums says that rammer is less than 10% - 10% is based on a number hard if even possible to hit - and vent is at most 5%.
 

stag3

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got my magazine today yay!
i'll input the code tomorrow as i'm to tired to play tonight
so i don't want to waste the premium, every hour counts!
 

Skott

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Vent and rammer are always must haves on all my tanks. The third choice is dependent on the individual tank itself. I still wish they'd allow for four mods instead of the current three. I guess they do that though so you can't 'have it all' type of thing.
 

LurkerPrime

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Well guys I submitted for the stuart scavenger hunt. Wish me luck. I got 359 points, hopefully thats enough to place and get me some free gold. Killing all 5 types of tanks (heavy, medium, light, spg and td) in one battle is a huge PITA.

edit: Soon as I sent my first submission in, I get an epic battle getting me 2488 xp (with premium). So my new revised score is 398.93
 
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PowerYoga

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loader speed - 100%
crew bonus from commander - 11%
vent - 5%
rammer - 10%
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total 126%

I don't think it stacks that way. Pretty sure the additional skills are multiplicative off the base % instead of additive.

Either way if you have everything maxed out + use consumables, then the gun's firing speed matches the top ROF stated in the specs. Otherwise it's always a little bit lower.
 

Harabec

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Just got my stock M4. Second game I play - 7 kills, top gun, steel wall and 32k credits. not bad for a defeat (1 of each team left alive to cap - and my engine was shot so I wasn't going anywhere fast enough to reset the other guy)
 

LurkerPrime

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I don't think it stacks that way. Pretty sure the additional skills are multiplicative off the base % instead of additive.

Either way if you have everything maxed out + use consumables, then the gun's firing speed matches the top ROF stated in the specs. Otherwise it's always a little bit lower.


Actually with vents, rammer and max crew the RoF is slightly faster than the stated RoF by 3-4% or so. The list rof on the KT 105 is 6rpm (10sec reload). However I get 6.21rpm (9.65sec reload)
 

Craig234

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Well guys I submitted for the stuart scavenger hunt. Wish me luck. I got 359 points, hopefully thats enough to place and get me some free gold. Killing all 5 types of tanks (heavy, medium, light, spg and td) in one battle is a huge PITA.

edit: Soon as I sent my first submission in, I get an epic battle getting me 2488 xp (with premium). So my new revised score is 398.93

So what you're saying is you beat yourself?
 
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PowerYoga

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Actually with vents, rammer and max crew the RoF is slightly faster than the stated RoF by 3-4% or so. The list rof on the KT 105 is 6rpm (10sec reload). However I get 6.21rpm (9.65sec reload)

Not trying to nitpick but the ROF on the 10.5 L/68 is 7.5 max. Suppose you're talking about the long 10.5, your 6.21 RPM falls well short of the max 7.5 RPM. You'd have to give almost a whole second to account for lag, provided you have the good turret which I think gives a slight RPM increase.

Either way it falls almost a full second short of the maximum possible RPM. I believe there's been a few detailed posts on the boards already about this and I doubt any firing mechanics has been changed in the new patches.
 

LurkerPrime

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Not trying to nitpick but the ROF on the 10.5 L/68 is 7.5 max. Suppose you're talking about the long 10.5, your 6.21 RPM falls well short of the max 7.5 RPM. You'd have to give almost a whole second to account for lag, provided you have the good turret which I think gives a slight RPM increase.

Either way it falls almost a full second short of the maximum possible RPM. I believe there's been a few detailed posts on the boards already about this and I doubt any firing mechanics has been changed in the new patches.

When you equip the gun, the listed RoF is 6rpm as displayed in the weapon selection pop up menu, not the weapon stats page. If you look at the stats page it may show a range up to 7.5rpm. The reason for it showing the range is I due believe that gun can also be put on a TD which has a better RoF. Either way I have the KT elited with max crew, vents and rammer and best turret equiped and the RoF is 9.65 seconds as displayed on my HUD with one of the available mods.

I also finally unlocked and bought the T34 yesterday. I'm not going to bother trying to upgrade it since I dont know how the xp is going to transfer when they make it premium. I need another 500k credits so I can purchase my E-75. I hope the elited T34 is a good credit grinder since I'll need the cash to be able to afford the E-100 whenever I finally grind it out.
 

Daverino

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The stats listed on the tankopedia page for things like aiming time, accuracy and RoF are all the best possible cases. In order to get to these in reality you will need:

100% crew
Vents (if your tank can have them)
Rammer
Stabilizer (If your tank can have it)
GLD
Chocolate/Coffee/Rations/Cola

Now if you consider that you need four items possibly to max all your stats and only room for three, you can see that you cannot actually have everything in some cases.
 

PowerYoga

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When you equip the gun, the listed RoF is 6rpm as displayed in the weapon selection pop up menu, not the weapon stats page. If you look at the stats page it may show a range up to 7.5rpm. The reason for it showing the range is I due believe that gun can also be put on a TD which has a better RoF. Either way I have the KT elited with max crew, vents and rammer and best turret equiped and the RoF is 9.65 seconds as displayed on my HUD with one of the available mods.

I believe TDs have different versions of the guns so the ROF might be different on those, at least I've had to research all the different ones for the russian TDs. Maybe it's different for german TDs but I played them back in Beta and don't have them this time around for comparisons.

But 9.65 seems.... high. That's the ROF of the 88. I suppose I can do a ROF test on my e-75 later today but I don't know if KT's ROF is slightly different.



Also ever since I got premium back on... man I can't believe how much money the e-75 makes. I get 40k on a good game... before premium I only made 5-10k tops if my tank doesn't blow up. Lose 10k on a bad game, but those are rare.

Lowe is seeing 6 figure games again, fun times. :)
 

Harabec

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Strange battle in my AMX 40 - I was at 14 hp, a T-50-2 came and decided to ram me to death instead of shoot me. He rammed me and ended up killing BOTH of us.
My AMX 40 got Kamikaze...o_O
 

PowerYoga

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Why would you ram anything with a t-50-2?.... I don't even ram Arty because I usually end up losing.
 

LurkerPrime

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Why would you ram anything with a t-50-2?.... I don't even ram Arty because I usually end up losing.

The other day when I was playing with my brother (I was in a T32, him a KT) a Type 59 came barreling at us while we were behind a rock for cover. My brother intentially backed up and the type 59 ran right into the back side of his tank at almost full speed. The type only had around 150hp at the time and it killed him. Only did like 12 damage to my brothers KT.
 

RedChief

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The other day when I was playing with my brother (I was in a T32, him a KT) a Type 59 came barreling at us while we were behind a rock for cover. My brother intentially backed up and the type 59 ran right into the back side of his tank at almost full speed. The type only had around 150hp at the time and it killed him. Only did like 12 damage to my brothers KT.

A few days ago I was Low on health in my E-50 on campinovka. I did the suicide run on a AMX 50 100 which was hiding in the forest. Destroyed me but took him down to 40% from full health. There was a few WTF's in global from that.
 

Elcs

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The other day when I was playing with my brother (I was in a T32, him a KT) a Type 59 came barreling at us while we were behind a rock for cover. My brother intentially backed up and the type 59 ran right into the back side of his tank at almost full speed. The type only had around 150hp at the time and it killed him. Only did like 12 damage to my brothers KT.

A few days ago I was Low on health in my E-50 on campinovka. I did the suicide run on a AMX 50 100 which was hiding in the forest. Destroyed me but took him down to 40% from full health. There was a few WTF's in global from that.

E-50 Vs. 2x Bat Chat - Uploaded 24th January by ElcomeSoft

My clan mate, kurtan, in a rather fast and frantic struggle with two Bat Chats decides to ram one knocking off over 400 HP.

Splat Chat!
 

LurkerPrime

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nice , i've seen a LOT of is-7 drivers ramming now

It's probably a pretty good tactic against all the lightly armored french tanks. Although it seems the IS lines lose in a ramming battle against equally tiered american and german heavies. I was ramming an IS-3 in my T29 and doing 60-80 damage to him, while only taking around 12-18 (head on collision). This was almost more effective than shooting him, since ISes bounce all the damn time.

I'm also glad that it looks like most of the french tanks are going to get nerfed. The autoloaders are a little OP and it seems that thier guns rarely bounce. When I'm directly facing you in a KT, I would expect at least 1 bounce out of 5 shots from an equally tiered tank, but that rarely seems to happen. They seem to have a better chance of missing me completely than bouncing.
 

Elcs

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It's probably a pretty good tactic against all the lightly armored french tanks. Although it seems the IS lines lose in a ramming battle against equally tiered american and german heavies. I was ramming an IS-3 in my T29 and doing 60-80 damage to him, while only taking around 12-18 (head on collision). This was almost more effective than shooting him, since ISes bounce all the damn time.

I'm also glad that it looks like most of the french tanks are going to get nerfed. The autoloaders are a little OP and it seems that thier guns rarely bounce. When I'm directly facing you in a KT, I would expect at least 1 bounce out of 5 shots from an equally tiered tank, but that rarely seems to happen. They seem to have a better chance of missing me completely than bouncing.

232mm penetration. I don't think you can angle your front hull enough without making your sides a huge target to bounce a 232mm penetration shell all that often. The KT's biggest weakness aside from the stock Porsche-designed turret and the lower front hull.