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Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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LaserBlast said:
Just wanted to let you know every time I glance at your avatar I think it's Robin and Batman from the 60's TV show consoling each other.

I know that's not what the image is, but my brain keeps wanting to interpret it as that.

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That's kind of funny. Glad you mentioned it.

Yeah, I can see it. 😀
 
Victorian Gray said:
Are you fucking insane?!

I posted their own bloody words. They all claim that they thought he *might* have been hit *once* in the back when they saw him flinch. They all then state that he stopped running away, raised his hands and turned to face the officer and, while he stood facing the officer, the officer continued firing at Brown until he was dead.

Your original claim was bullshit and you know it. You claimed you'd heard/read "all bullets". Reality says one bullet.

Split a hair with that.
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No, you are the one that keep this bandwagon going round and round.

You said "never claimed" and it was not true. You were saying something about "bullshit"?

and this is what you said.

And if you don't agree that's what the actual witnesses said, then I guess we have nothing more to say to one another.
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And yes I do not agree with that statement and I posted links to back me up about what Johnson (actual witness) said so I guess we have nothing more to say to one another.

I said what I need to say and I provided links from well know sources to back up my statement. Split that.
 
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Abwx said:
You would advocate death penalty for a looted chocolate bar as well, wouldnt you, most of the US would deserve death in this case...



He would had deserved a punch, or even two, in the nose, that s all...
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You know, you don't actually have to receive a punch to use deadly force. Getting physically harmed by the assailant just helps your case a lot more. If you know you are in fear of receiving bodily harm, by the act of intimidation or strong arming a small old Indian man, that's enough justification for the small Indian man to pull a gun out and blow his face off.
 
A Witness Conversation Unknowingly Captured at the Scene of the Ferguson Shooting is a Game-Changer

@6:28/6:29 of video
#1 How’d he get from there to there?
#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck
{crosstalk}
#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him
{crosstalk}
#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –

[there is dispute here whether he says "doubled back" or "coming back."]
#1. Oh, the police got his gun
#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him
{crosstalk}
#2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing
#1 The Police?
#2 The Police shot him
#1 Police?
#2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)
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Some rumors too about the cop having facial swelling which turned out to be broken right orbital bone (and/or jaw bone) which if true could account for number of shots (due to poor aim).
 
GinormousNG said:
You know, you don't actually have to receive a punch to use deadly force. Getting physically harmed by the assailant just helps your case a lot more. If you know you are in fear of receiving bodily harm, by the act of intimidation or strong arming a small old Indian man, that's enough justification for the small Indian man to pull a gun out and blow his face off.
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If the shooting had happened in the store with the old man holding the gun it would have been a different case but you cant confuse this hypothetical case with what happened in the street later, and that s exactly the policeman line of defense by the way, that is to instillate fiction inside a real case.
 
Abwx said:
No trace of gun powder on his clothes, wich point to shots being fired at some distance...
But anyway, six bullets, two on the face with the last one being deadly, i guess that he really wanted to kill him.
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The clothes were not provided for this autopsy. This was done by the family. There was only access to the body, not the clothes or any other evidence.

Where are you getting the powder residue info?

The shots pretty well match a charging suspect who was falling forward as the last shots were fired.
 
Abwx said:
If the shooting had happened in the store with the old man holding the gun it would have been a different case but you cant confuse this hypothetical case with what happened in the street later, and that s exactly the policeman line of defense by the way, that is to instillate fiction inside a real case.
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Someone needs to think for the little guy. He was just a small old Indian man that didn't want any trouble. Now his store is a wreck and he's probably living fear.


As I've said earlier but maybe some of you missed it, I am in agreement that if the cop shot him after he gave up, he should go to jail. We probably will never know the full truth though. Most likely the cop will get off.
 
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Svnla said:
No, you are the one that keep this bandwagon going round and round.

You said "never claimed" and it was not true. You were saying something about "bullshit"?

and this is what you said.




And yes I do not agree with that statement and I posted links to back me up about Johnson (actual witness) so I guess we have nothing more to say.

I said what I need to say and I provided links from well know sources to back up my statement. Split that.
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Show me where Johnson has ever claimed that all the shots at Brown were in, or even at, his back. Because it sure isn't in the links that you posted.

And that was your claim, that you had heard/read claims that Brown was gunned down from behind, that all the shots had been from behind.

Well, no witness has made any such claim and their words have been out in the open for days. Deal with it. Move on. Find another false claim to trip yourself up over. Whatever, just stop beating the poor horse.
 
LTC8K6 said:
The clothes were not provided for this autopsy. This was done by the family. There was only access to the body, not the clothes or any other evidence.

Where are you getting the powder residue info?

The shots pretty well match a charging suspect who was falling forward as the last shots were fired.
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I added some precisions on a post.

We ll know more in a few hours but from the wounds i would say that it would be difficult to spot a face at very very short range, obviously it would be more logical to spot the body in the hurry, and if effectively fired at short distance the bullet course couldnt be close to being horizontal, as is the case, if the head was spoted.
 
Abwx said:
I added some precisions on a post.

We ll know more in a few hours but from the wounds i would say that it would be difficult to spot a face at very very short range, obviously it would be more logical to spot the body in the hurry, and if effectively fired at short distance the bullet course couldnt be close to being horizontal, as is the case, if the head was spoted.
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I have no idea what that means.

The evidence could not be handed out to a private medical examiner.

But the family does have the body.

I think it's pretty simple. Brown is charging towards Wilson, head up. Wilson begins to fire at center mass, but is missing left. Early shots have little effect. The shots begin to have an effect and Brown falls. Wilson is still firing. The last two shots enter the face and head at the "downward" angle as Brown is falling.

The number of shots is normal and consistent with firing at a charging felony suspect, imo.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I have no idea what that means.

The evidence could not be handed out to a private medical examiner.

But the family does have the body.

I think it's pretty simple. Brown is charging towards Wilson, head up. Wilson begins to fire at center mass, but is missing left. Early shots have little effect. The shots begin to have an effect and Brown falls. Wilson is still firing. The last two shots enter the face and head at the "downward" angle as Brown is falling.

The number of shots is normal and consistent with firing at a charging felony suspect, imo.
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Agreed.

It would be very interesting if ballistics could demonstrate that later shots were fired at closer range, but if it was only a few feet closer I'm seriously doubting that can be shown.

Still, it would be very informative if ballistics could show that.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I think it's pretty simple. Brown is charging towards Wilson, head up. Wilson begins to fire at center mass, but is missing left. Early shots have little effect. The shots begin to have an effect and Brown falls. Wilson is still firing. The last two shots enter the face and head at the "downward" angle as Brown is falling.
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A guy running to strike with his arms sticked to his body.??.

Besides, if the guy was charging, do you realize the times it takes to spot and shot six times a moving target when accounting for the recoil..??.
 
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I put away the popcorn for now. ( And I'll get the popcorn ready again at around 8-9pm today. No not for the forums, for the live tv coverage.
 
Abwx said:
A guy running to strike with his arms sticked to his body.??.
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The narrative will now proceed to explain this by saying Brown's right arm was grappling with the officer but Brown's arm was straight out from the right side of Brown's body. And then the officer shot him missing to the left of his chest because Brown's left arm got in the act and shook the officer throwing his aim a little to the left.
 
Abwx said:
A guy running to strike with his arms sticked to his body.??.

Besides, if the guy was charging, do you realize the times it takes to spot and shot six times a moving target when accounting for the recoil..??.
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No, running normally with his arms in the usual running posture, bent and alternately in front and beside the torso.

Yes, I own several guns. I know how hard it is.

The officer pretty much missed with 4 of the six shots...so he didn't shoot very well.

Moving? Not really if he was running towards the officer. He is much like a still target.
 
Victorian Gray said:
Show me where Johnson has ever claimed that all the shots at Brown were in, or even at, his back. Because it sure isn't in the links that you posted.

And that was your claim, that you had heard/read claims that Brown was gunned down from behind, that all the shots had been from behind.

Well, no witness has made any such claim and their words have been out in the open for days. Deal with it. Move on. Find another false claim to trip yourself up over. Whatever, just stop beating the poor horse.
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Since you do not want to believe me, see what LTC8K6 said above (#1158 and #1160). False claim too?

Again, this is what you said:

And if you don't agree that's what the actual witnesses said, then I guess we have nothing more to say to one another.
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I don't agree and I already told you several times why and yet you do not listen to your own words and keep replying to me. 😱
 
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