Militia defends America's borders from invaders.

[Vic]

Vigilantes spitting on the rule of law for the causes of hate and fear.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Vigilantes spitting on the rule of law for the causes of hate and fear.

A well regulated militia defending the country's borders from an invasion?

Tomato / tomăto.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

404: Invasion not found.

 

[obidamnkenobi]

Sorry, but blaming America for problems in Central America is a joke at this point, an excuse.

why? You destroy a country and never attempt to fix it what do you think will happen for decades leater?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contras#Atrocities

"Several historians have criticized the contra campaign and the Reagan administration's support for it, citing the brutality and numerous human rights violations of the contras. LaRamee and Polakoff, for example, describe the destruction of health centers, schools, and cooperatives at the hands of the rebels,[77] and others have contended that murder, rape, and torture occurred on a large scale in contra-dominated areas.[78] The United States also carried out a campaign of economic sabotage, and disrupted shipping by planting underwater mines in Nicaragua's port of Corinto,[79] an action condemned by the International Court of Justice as illegal.[80] The U.S. also sought to place economic pressure on the Sandinistas, and the Reagan administration imposed a full trade embargo.[81] The Sandinistas were also accused of human rights abuses.[82][83][84] "


edit: wait, why do I attempt to have a discussion with a right-wing, fact-proof person only driven by emotions and brainwashing lies?! The only reponse is mockery. Forget I said anything!

 

[Vic]

A well regulated militia defending the country's borders from an invasion?

Tomato / tomăto.

They're not well-regulated and they are operating outside the rule of law.

And remember, folks, only 'the real racists' play identity politics, which is why Slow refers to brown skinned refugees as 'invaders.'

 

[dank69]

Well regulated is very open to interpretation. Seems like they were well regulated to me.

What do you know about their regulations?

 

[SlowSpyder]

They're not well-regulated and they are operating outside the rule of law.

And remember, folks, only 'the real racists' play identity politics, which is why Slow refers to brown skinned refugees as 'invaders.'

I refer to people invading our country as invaders. If they were the palest white skinned people from Canada, I'd call them the same. You put the racism in this, not me.

What is well regulated to you? They didn't kill anyone and were effective. Exactly what the 2A is for.

 

[dank69]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-mexi...rants-at-gunpoint-until-border-patrol-arrives

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...-border-migrants-detain-united-constitutional

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Seems heavy handed to some degree perhaps, but seems the Democrats won't lift a finger to help with this problem, so citizens have to take matters into their own hands. Just as the forefathers wanted.

I do hope we have immigration reform soon, we need our borders secured and a better process to get good people into our country.

Considering white nationalists and white conservatives, males especially, pose a bigger threat to Americans these days as opposed to illegal immigrants, I think we should start forming militias to detain all white males spotted until we can verify that they don't pose a threat. Seems heavy handed to some degree, but it seems Republicans won't lift a finger to help with this problem, so citizens have to take matters into their own hands, just as the forefathers wanted.

 

[dank69]

I refer to people invading our country as invaders. If they were the palest white skinned people from Canada, I'd call them the same. You put the racism in this, not me.

What is well regulated to you? They didn't kill anyone and were effective. Exactly what the 2A is for.

Is well-regulated to be defined as "they didn't kill anyone"?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Considering white nationalists and white conservatives, males especially, pose a bigger threat to Americans these days as opposed to illegal immigrants, I think we should start forming militias to detain all white males spotted until we can verify that they don't pose a threat. Seems heavy handed to some degree, but it seems Republicans won't lift a finger to help with this problem, so citizens have to take matters into their own hands, just as the forefathers wanted.

Please explain how white nationals are a bigger threat. They are a small fringe group that causes comparatively little damage over an entire year compared to, say, an average weekend in Chicago in summer.

 

[Vic]

Sorry, but blaming America for problems in Central America is a joke at this point, an excuse.

I'm not going to blame the US for Central America's problems here (that deserves its own thread), but I will say that it is ridiculous not to be able to see immigration as a sign of prosperity.
Case in point: they don't have immigration 'problems' in poor countries. Instead, they have the REAL problem, which is emigration. It's much the same reason why small towns with no jobs, except at the Walmart, don't ever have a homeless problem.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Is well-regulated to be defined as "they didn't kill anyone"?

No, but that's just further evidence that they weren't racist killers looking to mow down people, but there was probably some level of regulation and restraint.

 

[fskimospy]

Please explain how white nationals are a bigger threat. They are a small fringe group that causes comparatively little damage over an entire year compared to, say, an average weekend in Chicago in summer.

As per the US government fringe right wing groups like white nationalists are the source of more domestic terror attacks than Islamists.

 

[Vic]

I refer to people invading our country as invaders. If they were the palest white skinned people from Canada, I'd call them the same. You put the racism in this, not me.

What is well regulated to you? They didn't kill anyone and were effective. Exactly what the 2A is for.

Please provide an example of when you have referred to Asian or whiteskinned illegal immigrants as 'invaders' here. Because those do exist and in large numbers, usually visa overstays.

Well-regulated means operating within the rule of law, which these vigilantes are not. I support the 2a, but I assure you, it was not written so that vigilantes could take the law into their own hands.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Please explain how white nationals are a bigger threat. They are a small fringe group that causes comparatively little damage over an entire year compared to, say, an average weekend in Chicago in summer.

nationalists, you numb fuck

 

[Vic]

Is well-regulated to be defined as "they didn't kill anyone"?

Imagine Spidey's reaction if groups of armed black men patrolled city streets claiming to be fighting crime.. as long as they didn't kill anyone, right?

 

[SMOGZINN]

And how is it that they did not already reach asylum in Mexico?
Is Mexico that dangerous, that inhospitable to human life?

A lot of them did.

 

[Vic]

Please explain how white nationals are a bigger threat. They are a small fringe group that causes comparatively little damage over an entire year compared to, say, an average weekend in Chicago in summer.

White nationalists are a much bigger fringe group that creates considerably more damage than antifa or BLM, but you piss your pants over those 2.
Hmm.. I wonder why that is?..

 

[dank69]

No, but that's just further evidence that they weren't racist killers looking to mow down people, but there was probably some level of regulation and restraint.

When a rapist does not kill his victims, is that evidence of some level of regulations he was following? Regulation and restraint are completely different things. The Constitution does not call for a well restrained militia. Please don't conflate regulation and restraint again because it is a pathetic attempt to move the goal posts.

 

[ivwshane]

Yet he didn't deport enough, he certainly didn't do enough to stop them coming here in the first place, he kicked the can down the road to the point it is an emergency today. His former DHS head even admitted so given the numbers Trump is dealing with on a daily basis today.

https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/crisis

You'll notice the thesaurus says crisis and emergency are synonyms, by the way...

I'm sure you are well aware that under Obama and a Democrat senate that the dems passed an immigration reform bill that addressed border security among other issues and do you know which party didn't even both to bring it up for a vote or send it to a committee? The Republicans in the house, of course.

Lol! Of course you aren't aware of that, you are a bubble dwelling trump dick sucker (tds).

 

[SlowSpyder]

As per the US government fringe right wing groups like white nationalists are the source of more domestic terror attacks than Islamists.

Please cite this. And keep in mind, many terror attacks are not classified as such, the information is manipulated.

Things like this are classified as a "mass shooting" when if the skin colors were reversed it'd certainly fit into the terror threat category you are yapping about.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Please provide an example of when you have referred to Asian or whiteskinned illegal immigrants as 'invaders' here. Because those do exist and in large numbers, usually visa overstays.

Well-regulated means operating within the rule of law, which these vigilantes are not. I support the 2a, but I assure you, it was not written so that vigilantes could take the law into their own hands.

I'm speaking specifically about the southern border, where Asian and white skinned invaders are less likely to be found. But let me be perfectly clear, someone from Canada crossing our border illegally to set up residence in this country without being vetted is an "invader." I believe that person should be classified and treated no differently than the invaders from the southern border.

 

[SlowSpyder]

When a rapist does not kill his victims, is that evidence of some level of regulations he was following? Regulation and restraint are completely different things. The Constitution does not call for a well restrained militia. Please don't conflate regulation and restraint again because it is a pathetic attempt to move the goal posts.

A rapist is still harming other peoples' rights, people that are not breaking the law and deserve no response as if they were doing such. You are making a very strange comparison in regards to what I said.

 

[K1052]

Our entire population increase from 300 million to 330 million can be attributed to immigration. Largely from those nations. Tens of millions. We are far beyond "taking in a few".

Our population growth is lower than any point since before WWII. We need many many many more immigrants to sustain us and they're not going to be Norwegian.

 

[fskimospy]

Please cite this. And keep in mind, many terror attacks are not classified as such, the information is manipulated.

Things like this are classified as a "mass shooting" when if the skin colors were reversed it'd certainly fit into the terror threat category you are yapping about.

Hahaha. Having not read a single word of the report you're already trying to emotionally condition yourself to not believe it.

Here's the GAO report: https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

Here's a quick chart on the number of attacks. Conservatives are now the #1 source of domestic terror attacks. See what I mean about how the right has gone insane?