Militia defends America's borders from invaders.

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A rapist is still harming other peoples' rights, people that are not breaking the law and deserve no response as if they were doing such. You are making a very strange comparison in regards to what I said.
So no concern for the rights being harmed by the militias from your OP then? How does a person from your militias determine if someone is illegal or not before they start harassing them? Please show me their regulations.
 

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I'm speaking specifically about the southern border, where Asian and white skinned invaders are less likely to be found. But let me be perfectly clear, someone from Canada crossing our border illegally to set up residence in this country without being vetted is an "invader." I believe that person should be classified and treated no differently than the invaders from the southern border.
Sure, buddy. Let me know when you find that example.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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I'm speaking specifically about the southern border, where Asian and white skinned invaders are less likely to be found. But let me be perfectly clear, someone from Canada crossing our border illegally to set up residence in this country without being vetted is an "invader." I believe that person should be classified and treated no differently than the invaders from the southern border.
Webster's disagrees:
https://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/Invader
Even if you stretch the definition, that word has a specific connotation designed to manipulate a reader's interpretation of events; but then, you already knew that.
 
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Hahaha. Having not read a single word of the report you're already trying to emotionally condition yourself to not believe it.

Here's the GAO report: https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

Here's a quick chart on the number of attacks. Conservatives are now the #1 source of domestic terror attacks. See what I mean about how the right has gone insane?

I've corrected your faulty data as best as I could. I don't have the tools necessary to make a proper to-scale line in 2001, but I'm sure you get the idea.

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Also, for some comparison, here is a not too untypical summer weekend in Chicago. I wonder how many were white nationalists?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nce-leaves-71-shot-11-dead-weekend/914141002/
 
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I've corrected your faulty data as best as I could. I don't have the tools necessary to make a proper to-scale line in 2001, but I'm sure you get the idea.

View attachment 5395

Also, for some comparison, here is a not too untypical summer weekend in Chicago. I wonder how many were white nationalists?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nce-leaves-71-shot-11-dead-weekend/914141002/
We are discussing the number of attacks, not the number of deaths, because we would like to know how many of what types of people we should be afraid of so we can round up the riskiest ones and remove as many of their rights as possible.
 

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We are discussing the number of attacks, not the number of deaths, because we would like to know how many of what types of people we should be afraid of so we can round up the riskiest ones and remove as many of their rights as possible.
Who knew charts and statistics could be so complicated?
 

fskimospy

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I've corrected your faulty data as best as I could. I don't have the tools necessary to make a proper to-scale line in 2001, but I'm sure you get the idea.

Also, for some comparison, here is a not too untypical summer weekend in Chicago. I wonder how many were white nationalists?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nce-leaves-71-shot-11-dead-weekend/914141002/
I am zero percent surprised that you decided not to accept the government's own reporting on the issue.

We both know you have an emotional need to avoid this because it shows how insane conservatives have become. It's okay, you can't help it.
 

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We are discussing the number of attacks, not the number of deaths, because we would like to know how many of what types of people we should be afraid of so we can round up the riskiest ones and remove as many of their rights as possible.

The left side of the graph is the number of deaths. I feel that something that causes more deaths in fewer attacks is still an issue, potentially even a bigger issue than less deaths in more attacks. Sorry reality doesn't agree with the position you hold, but the graph clearly has deaths labeled on it.

Guns cause fewer deaths than second hand smoke, but you still think guns are an issue, no?
 

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I've corrected your faulty data as best as I could. I don't have the tools necessary to make a proper to-scale line in 2001, but I'm sure you get the idea.

View attachment 5395

Also, for some comparison, here is a not too untypical summer weekend in Chicago. I wonder how many were white nationalists?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nce-leaves-71-shot-11-dead-weekend/914141002/
How do you not realize that almost everything you that complain about from 'leftists' is really just your own hypocrisy being thrown back at you?

Slow: "Leftists are the real racists for claiming that white supremacists are a violent threat, so I will retort with examples that prove that Muslims are terrorists and blacks are murderous thugs!"
 
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How do you not realize that almost everything you that complain about from 'leftists' is really just your own hypocrisy being thrown back at you?

Slow: "Leftists are the real racists for claiming that white supremacists are a violent threat, so I will retort with examples that prove that Muslims are terrorists and blacks are murderous thugs!"

That's a whole lot of projection, you sound like a programmed NPC. Because all I am saying here is that the stats that suggest white nationalism is a threat on any kind of broad level are fake news. And I think I've plainly shown that, though I know you guys will dismiss it. Democrat stronghold Chicago is far more deadly over the course of a handful of weeks than all the white nationalism combined across the country over a year's time.
 

fskimospy

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That's a whole lot of projection, you sound like a programmed NPC. Because all I am saying here is that the stats that suggest white nationalism is a threat on any kind of broad level are fake news. And I think I've plainly shown that, though I know you guys will dismiss it. Democrat stronghold Chicago is far more deadly over the course of a handful of weeks than all the white nationalism combined across the country over a year's time.
The GAO disagrees with you. Can you explain to us the reasons why your reasoning is superior to theirs?
 
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Does that militia understand that the border patrol's entire job is catch and release? They escort people INTO the country.
One the plus side, people have been identified and checked against terrorist lists, on the negative side - there's no one legally stopping illegal entry.
Catch and release is not mandatory. Its an option.

edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_and_release_(immigration)

There is no "hard-and-fast definition" of the phrase, which is pejorative. Rather, the phrase refers to a "collection of policies, court precedents, executive actions and federal statutes spanning more than 20 years, cobbled together throughout Democratic and Republican administrations. The Trump administration has used the phrase as a catch-all term for laws or policies preventing the holding of apprehended migrants in immigration detention
 

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That's a whole lot of projection, you sound like a programmed NPC. Because all I am saying here is that the stats that suggest white nationalism is a threat on any kind of broad level are fake news. And I think I've plainly shown that, though I know you guys will dismiss it. Democrat stronghold Chicago is far more deadly over the course of a handful of weeks than all the white nationalism combined over a year.
Yeah, I trigger your cognitive dissonance, so of course you try to dehumanize me rather than engage in any kind of critical thinking.
What YOU are dismissing is that the only reason that you brought up Chicago in this thread was so that you could distract attention away from your support of white supremacy. Because, and this is important, people who do not support white supremacy do not say "yeah, but Muslims" or "yeah, but black-on-black crime."
In other words, this isn't about anyone here dismissing those problems, but about YOU dismissing the problem of white supremacy, and trying to distract attention away from it.
 
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Another thread to try and distract...

Time for the chorus: "Oh my god. This is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I'm fucked"
 
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Yeah, I trigger your cognitive dissonance, so of course you try to dehumanize me rather than engage in any kind of critical thinking.
What YOU are dismissing is that the only reason that you brought up Chicago in this thread was so that you could distract attention away from your support of white supremacy. Because, and this is important, people who do not support white supremacy do not say "yeah, but Muslims" or "yeah, but black-on-black crime."
In other words, this isn't is about anyone here dismissing those problems, but about YOU dismissing the problem of white supremacy, and trying to distract attention away from it.

This is what is frustrating about lefties today. I DO NOT support white supremacy. Not in the least. You guys are so quick to label anyone that doesn't buy into your views as racist or somehow less moral than you. I don't know how much more clearly I can say this. I do not care about skin color or race. This has nothing to do with that. The reality is our southern border is constantly being infiltrated by people who are not vetted that are coming into this country. It isn't about their skin color, it just happens to be that is where the problem is, on the border we share with Mexico.

You can complain about white nationalism all you want, I don't like it either. But we're talking about something that over the course of an entire year kills less people than second hand smoke will kill today. Something that is little more than a few weekends of violence in a large Democrat city. I'm not saying it isn't a problem, but I am saying you or others here trying to pretend that this is an issue on anything approaching a broad scale is disingenuous at best, pushing a partisan line of propaganda more likely.
 
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The GAO disagrees with you. Can you explain to us the reasons why your reasoning is superior to theirs?
Because your graph which clearly has an axis for death count ignored nearly 3000 murders by terrorists?
 
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Because your graph which clearly has an axis for death count ignored nearly 3000 murders by terrorists?
You clearly have reading comprehension skills - take a look at the top text of that graph (which you conveniently omitted from your "edit").
 
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You clearly have reading comprehension skills - take a look at the top text of that graph (which you conveniently omitted from your "edit").
My stats just start one day earlier, that's all.
 
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This is what is frustrating about lefties today. I DO NOT support white supremacy. Not in the least. You guys are so quick to label anyone that doesn't buy into your views as racist or somehow less moral than you. I don't know how much more clearly I can say this. I do not care about skin color or race. This has nothing to do with that. The reality is our southern border is constantly being infiltrated by people who are not vetted that are coming into this country. It isn't about their skin color, it just happens to be that is where the problem is, on the border we share with Mexico.

You can complain about white nationalism all you want, I don't like it either. But we're talking about something that over the course of an entire year kills less people than second hand smoke will kill today. Something that is little more than a few weekends of violence in a large Democrat city. I'm not saying it isn't a problem, but I am saying you or others here trying to pretend that this is an issue on anything approaching a broad scale is disingenuous at best, pushing a partisan line of propaganda more likely.
bullshit
 
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So no concern for the rights being harmed by the militias from your OP then? How does a person from your militias determine if someone is illegal or not before they start harassing them? Please show me their regulations.
I like how he ignores that these fuckers that he's championing as saving us from rape, are actually pretty big fans of raping people:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/03/us/border-rapes-migrant-women.html

I seem to recall some of these militia fuckers being caught for the same shit.

Rape is the great conservative American past time. And to think how much joy they get when they get to be both racist and rapist! Those rapescallions! Those rapescists?

Thankfully we've got the dynamic duo of rape defender SlowSpyder, and racist defender Ugly Cassanova to assure us that conservatives care more about both than anyone!

Let's start a scorecard and see which one wins!
 
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I like how he ignores that these fuckers that he's championing as saving us from rape, are actually pretty big fans of raping people:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/03/us/border-rapes-migrant-women.html

I seem to recall some of these militia fuckers being caught for the same shit.

Rape is the great conservative American past time. And to think how much joy they get when they get to be both racist and rapist! Those rapescallions! Those rapescists?

Thankfully we've got the dynamic duo of rape defender SlowSpyder, and racist defender Ugly Cassanova to assure us that conservatives care more about both than anyone!

Let's start a scorecard and see which one wins!

Do you realize how much sex trafficking occurs over our southern border?
 

Vic

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This is what is frustrating about lefties today. I DO NOT support white supremacy. Not in the least. You guys are so quick to label anyone that doesn't buy into your views as racist or somehow less moral than you. I don't know how much more clearly I can say this. I do not care about skin color or race. This has nothing to do with that. The reality is our southern border is constantly being infiltrated by people who are not vetted that are coming into this country. It isn't about their skin color, it just happens to be that is where the problem is, on the border we share with Mexico.

You can complain about white nationalism all you want, I don't like it either. But we're talking about something that over the course of an entire year kills less people than second hand smoke will kill today. Something that is little more than a few weekends of violence in a large Democrat city. I'm not saying it isn't a problem, but I am saying you or others here trying to pretend that this is an issue on anything approaching a broad scale is disingenuous at best, pushing a partisan line of propaganda more likely.
The logic is very simple. If you didn't support white supremacy, you wouldn't try to distract from every criticism of it.
Just like your supposed non-racism with regards to immigration, where you can't provide a single example of every referring to white immigrants as 'invaders.'
And then you fall back on the old second hand smoke ruse.. anything to distract, right, sheep?
 
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This is what is frustrating about lefties today. I DO NOT support white supremacy. Not in the least. You guys are so quick to label anyone that doesn't buy into your views as racist or somehow less moral than you. I don't know how much more clearly I can say this. I do not care about skin color or race. This has nothing to do with that. The reality is our southern border is constantly being infiltrated by people who are not vetted that are coming into this country. It isn't about their skin color, it just happens to be that is where the problem is, on the border we share with Mexico.

You can complain about white nationalism all you want, I don't like it either. But we're talking about something that over the course of an entire year kills less people than second hand smoke will kill today. Something that is little more than a few weekends of violence in a large Democrat city. I'm not saying it isn't a problem, but I am saying you or others here trying to pretend that this is an issue on anything approaching a broad scale is disingenuous at best, pushing a partisan line of propaganda more likely.
Hey guy, how many deaths do illegal immigrants cause today? Way less than second hand smoking I presume. So why are you pretending illegal immigration is an issue?
 
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The logic is very simple. If you didn't support white supremacy, you wouldn't try to distract from every criticism of it.
Just like your supposed non-racism with regards to immigration, where you can't provide a single example of every referring to white immigrants as 'invaders.'
And then you fall back on the old second hand smoke ruse.. anything to distract, right, sheep?

I don't distract, I build perspective. Pretending white nationalism is a large scale issue is a lie. It is a scare tactic used by the left to keep you in line. There is no large uprising of the KKK or Nazis. They are a small fringe group that attracts almost no one.
 

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