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Ah yes indeed, I have the Liberty University Official Conservative thesaurus in front of me right here. Lets see:
Climate: totally normal
Corporation: people

Here it is:
Crisis [krahy-sis]
noun
1. too many brown people
2. situation made up by grifters to scare idiots to vote for them, and/or against their economic interest.


You're right!! This is a crisis! No doubt about it. Couldn't be worse, we are clearly about to all die. Just the other day I even saw 2-3 latinos walking around, nuts.

1) I clearly used thesaurus.com.

2) This has nothing to do with skin color, but you lefties will manufacture racism today as needed to push your narrative.

3) If you don't think it is a crisis, well, then take it up with Jeh Johnson, Obama's former DHS chief as he called it that.

You do nothing more than the typical leftist response to anything that doesn't jibe with your emotionally held evangelical positions, you create a caricature of reality and attack that caricature as if it were real, then claim victory within your bubble.
 
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They want their country safe and secured. Lawlessness is the end result of people loosing faith in "the system". At the end of the day they do not want to bow to you or anyone else, they want results. And if elections do not achieve results then they'll organize around the use of force., legal or illegal. Terrorism is easily born from the issue of illegal immigration.

If playing border patrol will not work, and these groups have to stop playing militia, then I suspect some of them will step into the shadows and begin assassinations.

Or maybe relentless propaganda and a torrent of outright lies has whipped some people up to do illegal things...



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1) I clearly used thesaurus.com.

2) This has nothing to do with skin color, but you lefties will manufacture racism today as needed to push your narrative.

3) If you don't think it is a crisis, well, then take it up with Jeh Johnson, Obama's former DHS chief as he called it that.

You do nothing more than the typical leftist response to anything that doesn't jibe with your emotionally held evangelical positions, you create a caricature of reality and attack that caricature as if it were real, then claim victory within your bubble.
A crisis manufactured by Trump and his actions, stops sending money to the countries that are now flooding the border with their people. He knows exactly what he's doing, he's trying his hardest to win an election again and idiots like you cheer him on for creating the problems instead of taking steps to actually slow or stop it.
 

fskimospy

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Interesting how Spidey thinks Democrats are to blame for problems at the border when it has been conservatives who have blown up every deal to address immigration.
 
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A crisis manufactured by Trump and his actions, stops sending money to the countries that are now flooding the border with their people. He knows exactly what he's doing, he's trying his hardest to win an election again and idiots like you cheer him on for creating the problems instead of taking steps to actually slow or stop it.

We shouldn't have to send them money. We have enough to pay for. Is there some kind of rule that if we don't pay countries then we have to allow their people to cross our border illegally? Not sending them money and protecting our border is a win/win.
 

obidamnkenobi

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We shouldn't have to send them money. We have enough to pay for. Is there some kind of rule that if we don't pay countries then we have to allow their people to cross our border illegally? Not sending them money and protecting our border is a win/win.
I don't know, maybe the fact that the US and CIA supported brutal, child murdering dictatorships down there for a decades which caused much of this human misery? Isn't that just taking responsibility for your actions? I thought conservatives were for that? Or maybe just not being an asshole? (not that I expect you do understand that one)
 

glenn1

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Interesting how Spidey thinks Democrats are to blame for problems at the border when it has been conservatives who have blown up every deal to address immigration.
Entire argument is pointless until we can reach a common agreement on what legal immigration totals should be. The mismatch between demand for legal immigration and supply available is 100% the causal factor of illegal immigration and until that's fixed then everything else is a sideshow.
 
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We shouldn't have to send them money. We have enough to pay for. Is there some kind of rule that if we don't pay countries then we have to allow their people to cross our border illegally? Not sending them money and protecting our border is a win/win.
In a perfect world we wouldn't have to send them aid, unfortunately the world isn't perfect. Same reason we send aid to Israel.
 
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I don't know, maybe the fact that the US and CIA supported brutal, child murdering dictatorships down there for a decades which caused much of this human misery? Isn't that just taking responsibility for your actions? I thought conservatives were for that? Or maybe just not being an asshole? (not that I expect you do understand that one)

Of course, it is America's fault, so we have to allow illegal aliens to cross our borders at will. Brilliant.
 
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In a perfect world we wouldn't have to send them aid, unfortunately the world isn't perfect. Same reason we send aid to Israel.

I wish we didn't send them aid either. Though with Israel we're really buying intelligence and partnership, allowing their presence in the area benefit us. But that's really a whole different subject. The claim that we have to send some countries aid to not receive their illegal migrants is bs. We are not obligated to give them our money and we can enforce our borders. I'd prefer we spent the money on that. America should pay for America first and foremost.
 

fskimospy

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Entire argument is pointless until we can reach a common agreement on what legal immigration totals should be. The mismatch between demand for legal immigration and supply available is 100% the causal factor of illegal immigration and until that's fixed then everything else is a sideshow.
As I’ve said before, this is the actual problem. The market has a large demand for increased immigrant labor but for social and electoral reasons conservatives want to decrease immigration.

This is the reason they always blow up immigration compromises. Democrats and moderate Republicans make these compromises based on the idea that Republicans aren’t lying when they say they have no problem with legal immigration and only want to stop illegal immigration. These compromises are crafted with that in mind, giving resources to lower illegal immigration while helping people to immigrate legally. In reality though, conservatives want to lower immigration across the board.

Until Republicans are honest about what they want it will be almost impossible to solve the problem. The electoral incentives are for continued lying though so this is unlikely to happen.
 
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Isn't that just taking responsibility for your actions? I thought conservatives were for that?
Republicans are not, nor have they ever been, for taking responsibility for their actions. They have always been all for pointing fingers at everyone else and never taking responsibility for anything at all. The entire 'Take responsibility for your actions' talk is just itself them trying to get other people to take responsibility for things they screwed up. It is straight up projection.
 

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1) I clearly used thesaurus.com.

2) This has nothing to do with skin color, but you lefties will manufacture racism today as needed to push your narrative.

3) If you don't think it is a crisis, well, then take it up with Jeh Johnson, Obama's former DHS chief as he called it that.

You do nothing more than the typical leftist response to anything that doesn't jibe with your emotionally held evangelical positions, you create a caricature of reality and attack that caricature as if it were real, then claim victory within your bubble.
You are confusing humanitarian crisis with a made up narrative about an invasion. And this has everything to do with skin colour. Where are all your posts about illegal crossings from Canada? Crickets.

Anyhoo, the local folks in these areas where these idiotic "militias" are operating hate them and have started openly discouraging them from being int he area. Ideally we would have a local militia start up to protect the local towns from these invading foreign militias.

A perfect America-fux-yeah scenario!
 
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You are confusing humanitarian crisis with a made up narrative about an invasion. And this has everything to do with skin colour. Where are all your posts about illegal crossings from Canada? Crickets.

Anyhoo, the local folks in these areas where these idiotic "militias" are operating hate them and have started openly discouraging them from being int he area. Ideally we would have a local militia start up to protect the local towns from these invading foreign militias.

A perfect America-fux-yeah scenario!

We don't have near the problem on this level at our northern border. It has nothing to do with skin color, you guys build that part. We are dealing with literally thousands of apprehensions per day at the southern border, that is not the case with the northern border. This is another situation where you lefties will ignore logic, evidence, and critical thinking to instead build your faux racism. YOU are the real manufacturers of race division today.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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We don't have near the problem on this level at our northern border. It has nothing to do with skin color, you guys build that part. We are dealing with literally thousands of apprehensions per day at the southern border, that is not the case with the northern border. This is another situation where you lefties will ignore logic, evidence, and critical thinking to instead build your faux racism. YOU are the real manufacturers of race division today.
You mean there is no humanitarian crisis on the northern border? Correct. Which means the thousands of Canadians are truly illegally entering the country, and not seeking asylum. Unlike those on our southern border.
 
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We don't have near the problem on this level at our northern border. It has nothing to do with skin color, you guys build that part. We are dealing with literally thousands of apprehensions per day at the southern border, that is not the case with the northern border. This is another situation where you lefties will ignore logic, evidence, and critical thinking to instead build your faux racism. YOU are the real manufacturers of race division today.
You are correct, in that volume is the primary concern and difference.
 

obidamnkenobi

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Of course, it is America's fault, so we have to allow illegal aliens to cross our borders at will. Brilliant.
In this case yes, this is americas fault! Read up on the history of central america during the cold war, and the bone-chilling atrocities conducted with direct support from the US. Millions of people dead by the hand of the US empire. So yeah, sending some money or taking in a few starving children is the least they can do!
 
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In this case yes, this is americas fault! Read up on the history of central america during the cold war, and the bone-chilling atrocities conducted with direct support from the US. Millions of people dead by the hand of the US empire. So yeah, sending some money or taking in a few starving children is the least they can do!
Our entire population increase from 300 million to 330 million can be attributed to immigration. Largely from those nations. Tens of millions. We are far beyond "taking in a few".

You mean there is no humanitarian crisis on the northern border? Correct. Which means the thousands of Canadians are truly illegally entering the country, and not seeking asylum. Unlike those on our southern border.
And how is it that they did not already reach asylum in Mexico?
Is Mexico that dangerous, that inhospitable to human life?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Our entire population increase from 300 million to 330 million can be attributed to immigration. Largely from those nations. Tens of millions. We are far beyond "taking in a few".



And how it is that they did not already reach asylum in Mexico?
Is Mexico that dangerous, that inhospitable to human life?
Serious question, how many do you think we've displaced, between military, civil/financial, and war-on-drug related actions?

And yes, have you ever looked at Mexico on google maps? Most of it is pretty similar to the Australian outback. It's very inhospitable compared to a few hundred miles north, in literally any location in the US.
 

obidamnkenobi

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Our entire population increase from 300 million to 330 million can be attributed to immigration. Largely from those nations. Tens of millions. We are far beyond "taking in a few".
Nope, you destroy and impoverish several countries and slaugther millions you don't get off the hook just becasue you got more tax paying, productive citizens that enrich your country.

And besides; ~329 millions of the US population is due to immigration.
 
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Nope, you destroy and impoverish several countries and slaugther millions you don't get off the hook just becasue you got more tax paying, productive citizens that enrich your country.

And besides; ~329 millions of the US population is due to immigration.

Sorry, but blaming America for problems in Central America is a joke at this point, an excuse.
 
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Our entire population increase from 300 million to 330 million can be attributed to immigration. Largely from those nations. Tens of millions. We are far beyond "taking in a few".



And how is it that they did not already reach asylum in Mexico?
Is Mexico that dangerous, that inhospitable to human life?
You don't think the drug cartels reach extends into Mexico?
 

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