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How do you know the trend is going the other way? 60 years ago was the 1940's. I wasn't referring to the 1900's or sooner. I also wasn't referring to kids that are married at that age.
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
What exactly are you guys talking about anyways?You guys certainly don't believe that way, and no one in this thread has advocated this belief... So why is it being brought up?
It's called taking what you've said, blowing it to extremes/out of context/etc so they can try to justify their position and make fun of you - but it doesn't work all that well
Hey, I was putting just as much logic into my position as you put into yours.
Vic
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I said, "if anything." My personal opinion is that sexual behavior has remained mostly unchanged throughout most of human history. Sex is an innate behavior. As soon as you can have it, you want to have it. Laws and mores just determine whether it is done secretly or openly.
I assume that you don't have any children. Let me break it down a bit for you.
Children do not develop exactly the same at the set ages. The "appropriate age" is when my daughter is mature enough for the conversation. Obviously, she is not mature enough at age 6. She may be mature enough at age 10 to breach the topic with some detail or she may not be. If I was to say right now, I would guess that we will have the detailed "talk" when she is around 12 but that is subject to change depending upon her maturity.
Most parents? I didn't realize that MOST middle/high school girls where knocked up. I don't disagree that there are some bad parents out there but that does not give anyone the right to assume I will be a bad parent as well and then take my parental rights and responsibilities away from me.
What is your position on the topic? Should schools be able to administer prescription drugs/hormones to children without parental consent or permission? To be clear, I am speaking of expressed consent, not some general form that allows them to be treated in a school clinic.
Seriously, BC pills can fuck with your hormones. It's OK for a developed (post-puberty) girl to take them, but one whose hormonal systems are still under rapid development? They're better off giving out condoms IMO.
waggy
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I guess it really comes down to this.
this is for pre-teens that are already having sex. This gives them a opiton to get birht control pills (they still can also go to Planned parenthood, or such).
if you take away the pills they run the risk of getting pregnant. Then they have to make a decision no pre-teen should ever have. either have the kid or abort.
she keeps the kid then she is going to get on welfare etc. wich is going to increase my taxes.
i think the pills are far cheaper.
while i think the kids should not be having sex lets be real. you are NOT going to stop them.
they need education and protection.
oh and in order for the kids to get the pills from the school the child has to be enrolled in the health thing. the parent is giving information that they may get the pills then. they can refuse to enroll the child in the program.
not that it matters. there are other places to go.
this is for pre-teens that are already having sex. This gives them a opiton to get birht control pills (they still can also go to Planned parenthood, or such).
if you take away the pills they run the risk of getting pregnant. Then they have to make a decision no pre-teen should ever have. either have the kid or abort.
she keeps the kid then she is going to get on welfare etc. wich is going to increase my taxes.
i think the pills are far cheaper.
while i think the kids should not be having sex lets be real. you are NOT going to stop them.
they need education and protection.
oh and in order for the kids to get the pills from the school the child has to be enrolled in the health thing. the parent is giving information that they may get the pills then. they can refuse to enroll the child in the program.
not that it matters. there are other places to go.
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Wait wait... you are going to come home one day and look at her and go wow something?s changed over night, I need to talk to her now. Good thing I looked at her today, I might have missed it.
Parents like you are the reason schools have to do this. Parents always think they will know and their little baby is not like that. Yet kids keep coming home knocked up. Of course the parents will try and blame the boy on how he corrupted his little baby. My first, and many other girl friends, are the one that initiated our relationship, not me.
My mom tried this BS with my younger brother. How other kids got him to smoke, steal, etc? while in truth he was the one handing out cigs and telling kids on what to do. She eventually realized she had it wrong, but by then it was to late.
But yea I am sure YOUR powers of perception are perfect? just like all those others girls parents who will be having grandkids soon.
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No, my question is relevant. You said that "as soon as you can have it, you want it." Boys can have it as soon as they can keep an erection, but I don't know if that correlates to wanting it. There is a time when boys think girls are yucky just as girls think boys are yucky. The time I could have it didn't correlate to the time I wanted it.
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of course not.
girls have a diffrent sex drive then boys. a boy once hits puberty goes into sexual overdrive. many will say/do anything to convince a girl to have sex.
that is not saying girls can not want it or enjoy it. they just have the desire as bad as boys do.
Vic
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I thought it would have been pretty well understood that I meant at the onset of puberty. A prepubescent boy might be able to get an erection, and thus be mechanically capable, but there's no sexual sensation or urge attached to it. Once that hormonal urge hits at puberty though, it's about the strongest thing in the world.
There's nothing new or mysterious about this. Humans are just like the rest of the animals when it comes to sex. That's why we're here. The Hokey Pokey is what it's all about.
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you think sex is instinctual? that if we didn't see, hear or read about it that we would just know how to do it?
Agreed. If not how do you think we made it this far.
Do you have to show your dog, cat, etc... porn to get to have sex.
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funny, i don't remember just knowing how to do it. i do remember seeing animals do it and thinking, "oooooooooooh, so that's how it goes"
Went to catholic school as well. The talk of the school was the pregnant 7th grade, Tina.. She didn't graduate.
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other animals?
actually, it's got to be instinctual for them, but honestly, we aren't animals. wait... i might want to retract that.
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