Microsoft turning Apple's elitism against itself

[VinylxScratches]

Still would rather have a Macbook.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I find the "PC vs mac" arguments funny. If you buy a PC who says you're even using Windows? You could be using Linux, in which case it's superior then mac AND windows.

Got to admit I do enjoy the mac commercials though. The only time I'd buy a mac though is if I was heavy into video editing and had 3 grand to spare.

 

[OCGuy]

Picking on Macs is like picking on the retarded kid.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: newb111

Originally posted by: shocksyde
Apple blows. Microsoft blows.

Does that make everyone happy?

Don't forget linux blows.

Linux doesn't blow. Linux sits in the corner alone, sobbing uncontrollably because it can't get laid.

So it's like the average ATOTer then.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: Hacp
Vista>OS Ten. There I said it. I don't care if people flame me.

This is true. However, Windows 7 is quite an improvement over Vista. Once 7 comes out I think it'll be huge. Should really hurt Mac sales.

I run the Win 7 beta, while I like it. I don't think most people will care. Outside of new PC's coming bundled with it, I don't see many people at all running out to actually buy the OS. And with the economy in the shitter. I don't see many people buying new PC's. Windows 7 will only fare slightly better than Vista has.

There are valid reasons for a Mac, I was at a producers house a few weeks ago and the software + plugin he uses are for Mac only. while technically he could build a PC that would install OSX for much less. But he likes support and such, so a PC isn't a viable option to him.

Depends on how much disposable income people, how much they like style over anything else, and how much they crave pure performance.
Given any combination of those three variables, or even someone with all 3 - Windows 7 should fare very well.

Looks nicer than Vista (effing LOVE that new taskbar - finally get rid of this launcher), is snappier than Vista, and more importantly, is actually more friendly and offers better performance.
All this while in Beta 1. :Q

I seriously am anxious for Windows 7. I'll probably get it from school.
And all those that never upgraded to Vista because they jumped on board the bandwagon of hate, all the while spewing bullshit and never checking facts... well no more excuse, Windows 7 is far and away the best Windows OS, destroys XP. Only issue now will be, those still on XP, will be greeted by quite a shocking first few days with 7, as many basic settings and whatnot - while only marginally tweaked compared to Vista - have moved around and been tweaked quite a bit compared to XP.

I wouldn't run either even if i got it for free.

I think they are both horrid solutions to a simple problem, namely to run the applications i need to run. THAT is the primary purpose of an Operating System.

Well if you would rather drive a VW instead of a Cadilac, the more power to you.

I tried OS X on my PC, got it to work, downloaded all the software I could think of and installed, I am not impressed. The fact that you don't have to worry about viruses in pirated Mac software must be a big selling point for all the sophisticated groovy Mac owners. Follow up action: DELETED THE HOLE THING!

I installed the newest version of Ubuntu, installed all the software I could think of. I am not impressed. Follow up action: DELETED THE HOLE THING!

Installed windows 7 and ran it for a few day. WHAT A DIFFERENCE! The thing looks so much more refined. Follow up action: Went back to Vista and anxiously waiting for the final version of 7

Windows 7 will be on my computers the day it comes out.

Are there any quastions?

It's more like comparing driving a car to a bus, i have no need for the bus so i'll drive the car.

Ubuntu is almost as bloated and useless as Windows or OSX but at least i can configure it if i need to (which i don't since i don't use it), with Windows and OSX i have to jump through hoops just to get the one thing i'm looking for, a simple and secure system to run my applications.

If you found what works best for you, more power to you, so have i, a LONG time ago, so more power to me to i guess.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: mugs


The great thing about OS X for power users is it's command-line interface. OS X is based on BSD, so it's funny that on a forum with so many Linux nerds, OS X gets so much hate. I would love it if Windows had a better command line interface, because I love writing scripts to do things.

Try Windows Power Shell.

http://www.microsoft.com/windo...owershell/default.mspx

So slow it makes people dead for tens of years rise from their graves and cry.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Picking on Macs is like picking on the retarded kid.

*picks on OCguy*

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: newb111

Originally posted by: shocksyde
Apple blows. Microsoft blows.

Does that make everyone happy?

Don't forget linux blows.

Linux sucks, big difference!

 

[SSSnail]

It would be SSOOOOOO effective if MS would just go around and take mini clips of Apple fans, put together 30 seconds of it, and that in itself should be the best commercial, ever.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
It would be SSOOOOOO effective if MS would just go around and take mini clips of Apple fans, put together 30 seconds of it, and that in itself should be the best commercial, ever.

Same with all fanboys, doesn't matter if it's about OS's, cars, guns or what have you.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: Mani
I'm not sure of the effectiveness of the new ads. I think MS would be more effective if they more directly portrayed the sheer silliness of many Apple fans.

I don't think MS is geared towards insulting anyone, even mactards. Apple can be the condescending company.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Whats with all the mac hate?

Mac envy. It's quite sad, really.

For those of us with enough money to buy whatever they want, it's not envy. It's personal preference. Remember, the world doesn't revolve around you.

 

[Newfie]

I stated this in a thread before but what the hell, this debate refuses to die.

I own a macbook (refurb model) and a PC. I am a student, but I payed for the majority of both systems.

I find that, after a year of owning the mac and a few years of owning the PC, I use the Mac much more then I use the PC.

Why? Well I personally like OSX in comparison to Windows Vista/XP and Ubuntu. It is a personal preference that I stand by.

Some people may automatically judge me because I am a student and I got a Mac (which I find ridiculous and childish in itself), but I stand by my purchase and I have absolutely no regrets in making it.

P.S: I really want to see how Windows 7 turns out, it's starting to look pretty nice.

 

[octopus41092]

You know... I like how they say Mac's are so cool you can play music and watch videos... I mean seriously all the gaming is on PC's and no shit everyone can play music and videos. Those commercials are just downright retarded. But yeah... the windows ones aren't great either.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I think the ads are great and really drive home the main advantages of a PC over a Mac:

Cost and customization.

 

[sourceninja]

Of course if all we were looking for in a computer was cost and customization, we would all be using free software exclusively.

I'm not anti windows. I'm just pro unix. Which is why I own a mac. And why I'm about to buy another one this weekend. I can get almost everything I want (minus the UI) with linux. I choose to pay to get a nice form factor, excellent hardware compatibility, and access to software I like to use that doesn't exist on linux. My favorite games all run here without wine, my favorite apps all run here as well. Plus I get a few apps that have rocked my world that I never had access to before. Such as Textmate and garageband.

 

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[lokiju]

Originally posted by: Crono
"The ad makes an obvious point: Macs cost more than Windows PCs. But there's a far more damaging subtext: that people who buy Macs aren't necessarily cool, clued-in hipsters. In fact, they might just be poseurs who paid too much for a computer?slash?fashion accessory. The deeper subtext is that these days, wasting money doesn't make you hip and smart?it makes you stupid."

Agree with this. Not all (probably not even most) Mac users use them for the superficial reasons, though. There are valid reasons for using Macs over Windows PCs.
I personally don't find Macs to be worth the money, but you won't hear me getting all whiny about people who do.

I cannot think of one.

On either side really.

Both do whatever you want and so can the other.

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: sourceninja
Of course if all we were looking for in a computer was cost and customization, we would all be using free software exclusively.

I'm not anti windows. I'm just pro unix. Which is why I own a mac. And why I'm about to buy another one this weekend. I can get almost everything I want (minus the UI) with linux. I choose to pay to get a nice form factor, excellent hardware compatibility, and access to software I like to use that doesn't exist on linux. My favorite games all run here without wine, my favorite apps all run here as well. Plus I get a few apps that have rocked my world that I never had access to before. Such as Textmate and garageband.

You bring up good points. I can honestly say that as far as OSes go, OSX is the best I've used, hands down. As for apps that have rocked my world... yeah, I've found some, like Coda, which is the best web coding software I've EVER used.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Xanis
yeah, I've found some, like Coda, which is the best web coding software I've EVER used.

Boo!

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: lokiju

Originally posted by: Crono
"The ad makes an obvious point: Macs cost more than Windows PCs. But there's a far more damaging subtext: that people who buy Macs aren't necessarily cool, clued-in hipsters. In fact, they might just be poseurs who paid too much for a computer?slash?fashion accessory. The deeper subtext is that these days, wasting money doesn't make you hip and smart?it makes you stupid."

Agree with this. Not all (probably not even most) Mac users use them for the superficial reasons, though. There are valid reasons for using Macs over Windows PCs.
I personally don't find Macs to be worth the money, but you won't hear me getting all whiny about people who do.

I cannot think of one.

On either side really.

Both do whatever you want and so can the other.

cannot think of one? Get back to me when any version of Windows can run the latest Logic Pro. If you're a producer and depend on Logic I would say that's the biggest reason in the world. As far as I know there are no top level A/V programs that are PC exclusive. For A/V Mac's still reign supreme. The gap is closing every year, but it's definitely still there.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Have there been any new Apple ads to counter any time recently? The last one I remember is the one where Apple tries to make fun of Microsoft for spending too much money on advertising, but thats it. In the past several months I can really only remember seeing Microsoft ads...I think the "I'm a PC" and the little kids and now this most recent laptop hunter ads have all been huge blows that Apple really can't do much to counter. In fact when I look at Apple's website, the latest TV ads I see are from Christmas time...

 

[dennilfloss]

Salesman at a computer store yesterday told me that the nice thing about his Mac is that it runs Windows. :laugh:

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Salesman at a computer store yesterday told me that the nice thing about his Mac is that it runs Windows. :laugh:

did you ask him how much he paid for his PC?

 

[manowar821]

Sounds like the same shit Windows fans have been saying about Apple for years, and it's just as uninteresting as ever.

Not that I care, but I just enjoy letting people know when something they find is most certainly not new or groundbreaking in any sense.