Microsoft officially announces Windows 11

[Shmee]

Sounds like you can use Win 11 pro with a local account. Also, I found this, looks promising. https://allthings.how/how-to-install-windows-11-on-legacy-bios-without-secure-boot-or-tpm-2-0/

 

[mikeymikec]

Being from the UK this doesn't mean much to me, which holiday?

The 'Happy Holidays' one.

 

[WelshBloke]

The 'Happy Holidays' one.

Christmas?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Last but not least, make of this what you will:
Windows 11 Supported Intel Processors
Windows 11 Supported AMD Processors

No Ryzen 1000-series CPUs, or 2200G/2400G, and no Skylake Intel? Are they serious? WTF?

 

[Shmee]

And no X99 support :C Though the workaround may work, at least for now.

 

[NTMBK]

Christmas?

No, Kwanzaa.

 

[coercitiv]

They are already adjusting the requirements elsewhere, from:

DirectStorage requires 1 TB or greater NVMe SSD to store and run games that uses the "Standard NVM Express Controller" driver and a DirectX 12 Ultimate GPU.

to:

DirectStorage requires an NVMe SSD to store and run games that use the "Standard NVM Express Controller" driver and a DirectX12 GPU with Shader Model 6.0 support.

 

[WelshBloke]

No, Kwanzaa.

All my holidays are happy because, you know, I'm on holiday!

 

[mxnerd]

Installed Win 11 Pro in a VM. No TPM and no DirectX 12, no errors. Offline account works.

==

If you love classic menu:

Enable Windows 10 Start Menu (Do this first!).

Windows 11 lets you enable the classic Windows 10 Start Menu, here's how

With yesterday's leak of a preview build for Windows 11, many users have quickly shared their opinion regarding how they felt about the new Start Menu. If you are not a fan of the new Start Menu layout, Microsoft has included a setting that lets you revert back to the classic Start Menu.

www.bleepingcomputer.com

Reboot, then install Open Shell Menu.

Release 4.4.160 · Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

New: Support for automatic updates (including optional nightly updates) Support for modern app jump-list tasks (#375) Fixes: Faster recent Metro apps enumeration (#45) Better handling of modern ...

github.com

 

[Shmee]

I did a backup on my X99 rig, and made the workaround USB drive. I was even able to install Windows 11 as an upgrade from within Windows 10. No issues so far, it is now running Windows 11 Pro on a local account without secure boot

 

[WelshBloke]

So if someone wanted to download the leaked ISO, hypothetically speaking, where would be the safest place to get it in theory, if someone was to consider doing that?

 

[PingSpike]

I did a backup on my X99 rig, and made the workaround USB drive. I was even able to install Windows 11 as an upgrade from within Windows 10. No issues so far, it is now running Windows 11 Pro on a local account without secure boot

Kind of sounds like the TPM thing is a lie then, but they're probably trying to boil the frog with that one.

I wonder if they'll roll it out in the update though and tell you "we warned you", since it sounds like the upgrader tool says it is required.

 

[WilliamM2]

When I ran the check tool it tells me my PC can't run Windows 11. It's 6 months old. I enabled secure boot and ftpm in the bios. Still says no, and Windows tpm.msc tells me I have no tpm device. What gives?

B550 with a 3700x.

 

[mxnerd]

Unable to find Amazon Appstore in Microsoft Store.

 

[Chiefcrowe]

This is great news and it is about time IMO!!!


Windows 11 to move to just one feature update per year

IT pros, rejoice: Home and Pro editions will get 24 months of support. Enterprise and Education will get 36 months of support.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-to-move-to-just-one-feature-update-per-year/

 

[Chiefcrowe]

That does suck. I suppose their line of thinking is that since 10 is supported for 4 more years they think those of us with older computers will buy new ones by then anyway?

Also, like win7, it seems like a lot of people will end up running 10 beyond its life cycle because of these new hardware requirements......

And just like that, Microsoft created several tons of e-waste with all the PCs and laptops that can't be updated to Win11. For Linux knowledgeable people, they will put Linux on the systems, for the sheeple it becomes e-waste or a listing on ebay, facebook or craigslist. Way to go "pro-environmentalist" companies with moves like this and making things hard to repair.

 

[biostud]

TPM 1.2 is minimum, TPM 2.0 is recommended.

Microsoft Discloses TPM Chip Requirements For Windows 11 | CRN

Microsoft said that TPM chip requirements for Windows 11 will start at TPM 1.2, thought TPM 2.0 is recommended.

www.crn.com

 

[biostud]

Does it have tabbed explorer windows?

 

[AnitaPeterson]

I'm going to leave this here, particularly since it's been mentioned in an earlier post:

TLDR: No TPM if you edit the .iso.

 

[amenx]

In related news...

Thanks to Windows 11, Scalpers Buy Out Add-on TPM 2.0 Modules

 

[UsandThem]

Microsoft management seems so detached from common sense at times:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-11-compatibility-checker-new-update-error

Microsoft has released an update to the Windows 11 PC Health Check App with more detailed messaging on why a computer may not be able to update. The messages include lack of TPM, secure boot being turned off, too small a system disk or an unsupported processor.

"Sorry for the irritating experience!” Steve Dispensa, the VP of PM for Microsoft Endpoint Manager and Windows Commercial, tweeted in response to a complaint about the upgrade tool. “We're going to improve the PC Health Check app over the next couple of weeks. Hopeful that the first update will be out tomorrow.”

Why wouldn't the first thing they think of before releasing the upgrade tool to the public be "It will tell people exactly why their PC won't be able to be updated, right?". Was there not one person of management who even brought this idea up?

 

[ithehappy]

I have a 6700k sitting on a Z170 Pro Gaming motherboard. There's no TPM option anywhere in BIOS. If I run tpm.msc it shows via cmd it shows compatible TPM cannot be found.

So I take that my system is 'so old' that it will not officially be compatible for Windows 11?

I'm very confused!

 

[UsandThem]

I have a 6700k sitting on a Z170 Pro Gaming motherboard. There's no TPM option anywhere in BIOS. If I run tpm.msc it shows via cmd it shows compatible TPM cannot be found.

So I take that my system is 'so old' that it will not officially be compatible for Windows 11?

I'm very confused!

In the article I linked to above your post, the person ran the updated utility using a 6700K, and as of right now, it told them they would not be able to install Windows 11.

Tom's Hardware staff writer Michelle Ehrhardt took her PC with an Intel Core i7-6700K, which isn't on the official list of supported processors, through the health check, and was told she'll have to stay on Windows 10.

 

[coercitiv]

I have a 6700k sitting on a Z170 Pro Gaming motherboard. There's no TPM option anywhere in BIOS. If I run tpm.msc it shows via cmd it shows compatible TPM cannot be found.

So I take that my system is 'so old' that it will not officially be compatible for Windows 11?

Not necessarily, I just enabled PTT on 6600K / Z170 board. Had to update the BIOS though. The system still fails the Win 11 check, but since I'm booting in legacy mode I expect that to be the problem instead.

Spoiler: tpm.msc

 

[coercitiv]

Why wouldn't the first thing they think of before releasing the upgrade tool to the public be "It will tell people exactly why their PC won't be able to be updated, right?".

It gets better, here's how much more details it's offering me:



I'm so glad I'll keep getting updates, Microsoft management does know how to write a reassuring message.