Microsoft officially announces Windows 11

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mikeymikec

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Noticed a windows update icon in my system tray today who's only purpose was the tell me the upgrade to windows 11 is ready and it's free. When I click the Windows search box there is an add at the bottom for Edge. This is annoying.
Can you screenshot it (the Edge ad I mean)? I'm not sure I've seen that before.
 
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TheELF

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Microsoft is finally making it easier to switch default browsers in Windows 11

Possibly connected to this:

Some highlights:
Big companies will have to provide alternatives to their apps
They will have to allow alternative paying methods
Messaging apps will have to be interoperable, sending and receiving messages from and to different messaging apps.
 
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VirtualLarry

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Some highlights:
Big companies will have to provide alternatives to their apps
They will have to allow alternative paying methods
Messaging apps will have to be interoperable, sending and receiving messages from and to different messaging apps.
Good! The breaking of the "Consumer Silo".
 

crashtech

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Afaik the main reason to run Win11 today is for Alder Lake support, but supposedly Win10 21H2 contains the required scheduler upgrades. I can't confirm personally as I do not run any Alder Lake hardware.
 

TheELF

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As of now are there any good reasons to migrate from windows 10 to windows 11?
There is no real reason to do but there is also no reason not to, it's very stable and everything works, the worst thing I have to say against it is that it forgot how to full screen windows, every time I open steam there is like a one pixel border around it because it doesn't fully maximize...
 
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Muadib

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There is no real reason to do but there is also no reason not to, it's very stable and everything works, the worst thing I have to say against it is that it forgot how to full screen windows, every time I open steam there is like a one pixel border around it because it doesn't fully maximize...
I agree! I've been using 11 for the last 5 months, and it works well on the system in my sig. Do you need to upgrade now, no. However there's no problems if you do.
 

JackMDS

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I agree! I've been using 11 for the last 5 months, and it works well on the system in my sig. Do you need to upgrade now, no. However there's no problems if you do.
While in General I agree. People who use the Windows computers for real work (not just Fun or online communication) have to be careful.

In the process MS disabled and discarded a lot of old staff (just like they do with the CPUs TPM etc.).

One can suddenly be in a situation that some software needed for real work is Not working.

Some of it might be corrected by the software maker in the near future. A lot would Not, and people would get stuck, or need to spend large amount of money to buy whatever Modern replacement might be available.

In such cases since Win 10 is going to be supported for the Next few years it is better to take it easy.


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Muadib

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While in General I agree. People who use the Windows computers for real work (not just Fun or online communication) have to be careful.

In the process MS disabled and discarded a lot of old staff (just like they do with the CPUs TPM etc.).

One can suddenly be in a situation that some software needed for real work is Not working.

Some of it might be corrected by the software maker in the near future. A lot would Not, and people would get stuck, or need to spend large amount of money to buy whatever Modern replacement might be available.

In such cases since Win 10 is going to be supported for the Next few years it is better to take it easy.


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I agree with you too! However jobs today have IT departments, and I’m sure that they won’t be doing Windows 11 for quite a while.
 

mikeymikec

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As of now are there any good reasons to migrate from windows 10 to windows 11?
Windows 10's end of support is October 2025. I imagine 11's will be in 2031.

Not an immediate reason to migrate, not so far off either, it depends if/how you need to plan your migration.
 

Red Squirrel

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The arbitrary hardware requirements is probably going to be the main reason not to as lot of people won't have the hardware needed.

Hopefully more people and businesses are going to consider making the switch to Linux. I hate to think of all the computer hardware that ends up land filled when MS drops support for windows 10. But it's also up to the software manufacturers to support it, and Linux is so fragmented I don't really blame them for not wanting to support it. You need to package your program like 100 times so it works in every distro.
 

TheELF

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The arbitrary hardware requirements is probably going to be the main reason not to as lot of people won't have the hardware needed.
Windows 11 runs fine on un supported hardware, only the installer checks for it not the OS. tons of guides on the net on how to do it, there are three different ways to do it.
I can see MS releasing a special "not as secure" version that will run on whatever in a few months/years.
 

mikeymikec

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Something just occurred to me - isn't it strange that Win11 has stringent hardware requirements and making TPM a requirement mainly in the name of security, yet DEP still isn't fully enabled by default?

I've been changing the DEP setting in Windows ever since it first came out (XP I believe) on all the customers I've set up for customers and my own / family's use, and IIRC I've encountered maybe three programs at most in nearly twenty years that needed an exception added to the DEP exception list.
 

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