Michael Cohen will testify to House Oversight Feb 7 about his work for Trump

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I pity the poor bastard adviser that has to explain the meaning of word "receipts" in reference to evidence to Trump.

Trump: Receipts? Like what drive through guy gives you at McDonalds?
Adviser: No, physical evidence. Like a check or letter.
Trump: But those aren't receipts.
Adviser: I understand that, but in court they call evidence like that receipts.
Trump: But he said he'd bring receipts.
Adviser: The check is a receipt..
Trump: But that's a check.
Adviser: ..........

 

[HomerJS]

Other then calling Cohen a liar, how is Fox spinning this?

 

[fskimospy]

This quote from Cohen is a great way to sum up Trump’s character. He’s a con in every aspect of his life, probably because he’s a psychopath.

Over time, I saw Mr. Trump's true character revealed. He is an enigma....He is capable of behaving kindly, but he is not kind. He is capable of committing acts of generosity, but he is not generous. He is capable of being loyal, but he is fundamentally disloyal.

 

[fskimospy]

Other then calling Cohen a liar, how is Fox spinning this?

From what I saw the headline from Fox earlier was ‘Cohen says no direct evidence of collusion with Russia’.

I’m not fucking kidding.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

From what I saw the headline from Fox earlier was ‘Cohen says no direct evidence of collusion with Russia’.

I’m not fucking kidding.

Yeah, he's a criminal, but NO COLLUSION!

 

[HomerJS]

Heard interview with James Clapper this morning. He told story of Trump's first briefing when told Russia interfered in the election. Trump was unwilling to believe what Clapper was telling him even though he already got word from Wikileaks damaging info on Hillary was coming out.

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah, he's a criminal, but NO COLLUSION!

Well that too but the real thing is that Cohen’s statement was ‘I didn’t witness it personally but I suspect it happened based on what I did witness’. To spin that into ‘no direct evidence of collusion’ is...bananas.

 

[Indus]

Yeah, he's a criminal, but NO COLLUSION!

Rudy already said there is collusion.

 

[IronWing]

Rudy already said there is collusion.

Did Rudy get his start as a public defender under Stalin?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

‘I didn’t witness it personally

That's good enough for Fox. Getting back to not being able to criminally prosecute a sitting President, I wonder what the Founders (who provided no protection in the Constitution from it) would think of a President who was a mass murderer killing every day until he was impeached, never an instant process? If you are so inclined that Maddow show that discussed this in the context of "the bagman" is quite enlightening as the immunity from prosecution turns out to be an afterthought unrelated to Presidents themselves. If the Republicans want a President in prison then let them have one. Trump can issue directions to Pence who can act for him if that's what they want.

 

[fskimospy]

That's good enough for Fox. Getting back to not being able to criminally prosecute a sitting President, I wonder what the Founders (who provided no protection in the Constitution from it) would think of a President who was a mass murderer killing every day until he was impeached, never an instant process? If you are so inclined that Maddow show that discussed this in the context of "the bagman" is quite enlightening as the immunity from prosecution turns out to be an afterthought unrelated to Presidents themselves. If the Republicans want a President in prison then let them have one. Trump can issue directions to Pence who can act for him if that's what they want.

Not being able to criminally prosecute a president also has the insane side effect of meaning that if you committed crimes to WIN the presidency once you have it you can't be prosecuted for them unless they can muster a super majority in the Senate. In America today such a super majority is essentially impossible, meaning there is no reason for presidential candidates to NOT commit crimes if they think it will help them win.

Yeah I'm sure that's what the founders wanted.

 

[HomerJS]

That's good enough for Fox. Getting back to not being able to criminally prosecute a sitting President, I wonder what the Founders (who provided no protection in the Constitution from it) would think of a President who was a mass murderer killing every day until he was impeached, never an instant process? If you are so inclined that Maddow show that discussed this in the context of "the bagman" is quite enlightening as the immunity from prosecution turns out to be an afterthought unrelated to Presidents themselves. If the Republicans want a President in prison then let them have one. Trump can issue directions to Pence who can act for him if that's what they want.

Or better yet, kill one or more people on 5th ave. Since a sitting President cannot be prosecuted he is not arrested. He goes back to AF1 and orders it to fly to Russia. It would take a few days to impeach. Since we don't have an extradition agreement with Russia POTUS has now gotten away with murder.

That makes POTUS above the law.

I have the feeling DOJ policy will be revisited once a new AG is installed.

 

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Founders also didn't take into account a completely craven and selfish senate groveling at the knees of their president. And craven is doing them a service. At worse they could just be in collusion with the president and it only takes 30'ish of them to agree to a no vote on convicting. We no longer have independent, rational, and "country before party" representatives taking up occupancy in the Senate. The memo needs to be revisited an no person should be considered above the law.

 

[Indus]

Founders also didn't take into account a completely craven and selfish senate groveling at the knees of their president. And craven is doing them a service. At worse they could just be in collusion with the president and it only takes 30'ish of them to agree to a no vote on convicting. We no longer have independent, rational, and "country before party" representatives taking up occupancy in the Senate. The memo needs to be revisited an no person should be considered above the law.

And its funny immigrants like my wife who just passed her naturalization exam know more about the constitution than its President.

She got a question on her exam:

What is the “rule of law”? Question 12 Audio (MP3, 330 KB)

• Everyone must follow the law.
• Leaders must obey the law.
• Government must obey the law.
• No one is above the law.

 

[GettyRoad]

Meadows, Jordan and Gaetz are covering up for Trump's crimes.

Cummings was covering up for Obama's IRS scandals.

It's political partisanship.

 

[Jaskalas]

I voted for Trump...

Want to know what else the voice told me ? Don't bother paying or filing anything to the IRS. Sucks to be all you slaves if you have a wife and children. The system will collapse

So... mission accomplished? You're getting exactly what you wanted out of your vote?
And if you think "paying taxes" equals "slavery" then I've got news for ya. There's nothing moderate in that concept.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Reps are flipping out right now as they are being hung out to dry. They are naturally attacking Cohen for lying, but that's irrelevant. What matters is evidence and documentation. If I were Cohen I'd have an enlarged placard of Trump's check and hold that up whenever he's questioned about the matter in a hostile attack.

 

[Jaskalas]

Other then calling Cohen a liar, how is Fox spinning this?

They're talking about Congress instead. "HOW DARE THEY!?"

 

[KMFJD]

Live..

 

[UNCjigga]

Jim Jordan: "This is all a CLINTON CONSPIRACYYYYY!!"

 

[HomerJS]

Meadows, Jordan and Gaetz are covering up for Trump's crimes.

Cummings was covering up for Obama's IRS scandals.

It's political partisanship.

I'm sure if Obama orchestrated an IRS scandal the component Republicans would have had oversight hearings and discovered the evidence.

Let's just have an indictment/arrest/convicted count Obama vs Trump.

Ooops I forgot about the tan suit scandal.

 

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Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, and Devin Nunes. The triad of fuckwit goons that have sworn to be political muscle for this fuckwit president. Mr. Jordan if you are so worried about legacy, please consider your own. I'll certainly remember.

 

[GettyRoad]

I'm sure if Obama orchestrated an IRS scandal the component Republicans would have had oversight hearings and discovered the evidence.

Let's just have an indictment/arrest/convicted count Obama vs Trump.

Ooops I forgot about the tan suit scandal.

He didn't plan it, he just allowed the IRS to go after political groups.

Trump's indictment count doesn't make Obama's presidency better. He had major flaws, just like Trump.

 

[HomerJS]

Funny Trump pressuring his high school and college not to release his transcript while at the same time claiming Obama's school records were fake.

His people love this kind of thing.

 

[GettyRoad]

Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, and Devin Nunes. The triad of fuckwit goons that have sworn to be political muscle for this fuckwit president. Mr. Jordan if you are so worried about legacy, please consider your own. I'll certainly remember.

It's called politics. Maxine Waters, Elijah Cummings were Obama loyalists from day in to day out. It's called politics.